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On March 02 2011 16:11 Xayoz wrote:
Meh. Undoubtedly a stupid act by the football player, still i'm getting more and more annoyed by those people known as animal lovers.
Reading the newspapers, whenever there is a article about a person being killed it hardly prompts any reaction, whereas 'Woman throws a cat in a garbage pin' results in countless death threats on that person.
Makes me feel kinda sad for humanity.
Having met a few people that actually belong to a sort of 'animal preservation group', I have to say, those are some obsessive and fairly worthless individuals.
And this right here makes me feel sad for humanity.
Let's see, death threats vs. actually killing an animal. Huh. To be honest, I would rather be friends with the 'obsessive and worthless individuals' than someone who is able to throw a cat in the garbage bin, or a soccer player who can kick an owl as if it were a football.
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To those who are riled up for the unintential death of an owl, I suggest focusing your attention on more worthy subjects like the on going protest worldwide, where HUMAN BEINGS are dying innocently.
In starcraft term, caring about an owl is like repairing a vulture when that same attention could be used to macro up some tanks.
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he should have received a red card 
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On March 02 2011 16:11 Xayoz wrote:
Meh. Undoubtedly a stupid act by the football player, still i'm getting more and more annoyed by those people known as animal lovers.
Reading the newspapers, whenever there is a article about a person being killed it hardly prompts any reaction, whereas 'Woman throws a cat in a garbage pin' results in countless death threats on that person.
Makes me feel kinda sad for humanity.
Having met a few people that actually belong to a sort of 'animal preservation group', I have to say, those are some obsessive and fairly worthless individuals.
People who complain about animal cruelty are generally unhappy with the level of punishment mandated for the mistreatment of certain creatures who may or may not be able to defend themselves. Most things that are unable to defend themselves and are mistreated receive an amplified backlash from the public. It's why people are alarmed when children, babies, or the disabled are mistreated more so than when the average Joe is.
Personally, I don't hold their feelings against them. It's human nature to want to defend those who can't defend themselves and if that has extended to our domesticated "friends", I wouldn't find myself outraged. I'd find it more reassuring than if society didn't care at all. Calling people worthless is a little more alarming to me.
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I don't know why so many people are defending this idiot.
Sure the kick wasn't "brutal." And i'm also sure it wasn't his intent to kill the bird. However the bird was clearly still alive and looking around and who in their right mind just walks up and kicks a living thing? What it would take to compel someone to think that "it's ok if I just go up and kick this thing" is unthinkable for me but can be nothing less than either stupidity or some sociopahtic attribute.
Also, that bird was like 5yards from the side-line... that isn't a fucking soccer ball. It's not like the bird was a few feet from the sideline. How hard does a reasonable person think you have to kick a living thing to get it to move that long of a distance? Hard enough to kill it, as was shown here. The dude is a fucking idiot (and his apology just corroborates this).
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Is there any evidence that the kick is what caused the death of the animal and not the football?
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On March 02 2011 16:22 On_Slaught wrote:
I don't know why so many people are defending this idiot.
Sure the kick wasn't "brutal." And i'm also sure it wasn't his intent to kill the bird. However the bird was clearly still alive and looking around and who in their right mind just walks up and kicks a living thing? What it would take to compel someone to think that "it's ok if I just go up and kick this thing" is unthinkable for me but can be nothing less than either stupidity or some sociopahtic attribute.
Also, that bird was like 5yards from the side-line... that isn't a fucking soccer ball. It's not like the bird was a few feet from the sideline. How hard does a reasonable person think you have to kick a living thing to get it to move that long of a distance? Hard enough to kill it, as was shown here. The dude is a fucking idiot (and his apology just corroborates this).
I don't think anyone is defending his actions. I think what people are commenting on is the "brutal kick" slant of the story, which suggests a level of malice that the video doesn't show. Nobody here is saying it is a good thing.
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Definitely the media making a mountain out of a molehill. While the kick wasn't the brutal death punt it was portrayed to be, it's probably not the "right" thing to do. People should also consider the fact that the animal was injured, and might be inclined to attack with its beak or talons if handled like you would a puppy. Toss in diseases that you can contract from birds, and I certainly can't vilify the guy for flickin the bird off the pitch..
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On March 02 2011 16:24 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 16:22 On_Slaught wrote:
I don't know why so many people are defending this idiot.
Sure the kick wasn't "brutal." And i'm also sure it wasn't his intent to kill the bird. However the bird was clearly still alive and looking around and who in their right mind just walks up and kicks a living thing? What it would take to compel someone to think that "it's ok if I just go up and kick this thing" is unthinkable for me but can be nothing less than either stupidity or some sociopahtic attribute.
Also, that bird was like 5yards from the side-line... that isn't a fucking soccer ball. It's not like the bird was a few feet from the sideline. How hard does a reasonable person think you have to kick a living thing to get it to move that long of a distance? Hard enough to kill it, as was shown here. The dude is a fucking idiot (and his apology just corroborates this). I don't think anyone is defending his actions. I think what people are commenting on is the "brutal kick" slant of the story, which suggests a level of malice that the video doesn't show. Nobody here is saying it is a good thing.
It seemed like the main intention was to get the owl off the field. While he was apathetic towards the owl's pain, he didn't seem like he did it to harm the owl, although his excuse sucked.
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On March 02 2011 16:21 Wayra wrote:
To those who are riled up for the unintential death of an owl, I suggest focusing your attention on more worthy subjects like the on going protest worldwide, where HUMAN BEINGS are dying innocently.
In starcraft term, caring about an owl is like repairing a vulture when that same attention could be used to macro up some tanks.
Dumb, ignoring what you deem "little problems" and fixing what you deem "big problems" doesn't make sense. We all help and work in multiple things at once, we're not the fucking zerg.
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Bullshit, they treat people who run onto the field and interfere with the game more roughly. No reason the owl should get special treatment.
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On March 02 2011 16:24 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 16:22 On_Slaught wrote:
I don't know why so many people are defending this idiot.
Sure the kick wasn't "brutal." And i'm also sure it wasn't his intent to kill the bird. However the bird was clearly still alive and looking around and who in their right mind just walks up and kicks a living thing? What it would take to compel someone to think that "it's ok if I just go up and kick this thing" is unthinkable for me but can be nothing less than either stupidity or some sociopahtic attribute.
Also, that bird was like 5yards from the side-line... that isn't a fucking soccer ball. It's not like the bird was a few feet from the sideline. How hard does a reasonable person think you have to kick a living thing to get it to move that long of a distance? Hard enough to kill it, as was shown here. The dude is a fucking idiot (and his apology just corroborates this). I don't think anyone is defending his actions. I think what people are commenting on is the "brutal kick" slant of the story, which suggests a level of malice that the video doesn't show. Nobody here is saying it is a good thing.
I pretty much agree with this.
The kick is not in the slightest way, shape or form 'brutal'.
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A beautiful bird, too bad he kicked it, but would anyone care if it was a pigeon? O.o
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On March 02 2011 16:34 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Bullshit, they treat people who run onto the field and interfere with the game more roughly. No reason the owl should get special treatment.
Maybe the fact that the owl probably has the mind equivalent to a child would change your mind. Please don't act tough or hard here, it makes you look pathetic when your horrible negative outlook gets challenged.
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On March 02 2011 16:38 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 16:34 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Bullshit, they treat people who run onto the field and interfere with the game more roughly. No reason the owl should get special treatment. Maybe the fact that the owl probably has the mind equivalent to a child would change your mind. Please don't act tough or hard here, it makes you look pathetic when your horrible negative outlook gets challenged.
(im pretty sure that was a joke)
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edit - ok.
edit - wait, were you being sarcastic about me waiting so long?
god i'm about as sharp as a golfball
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too soon 
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On March 02 2011 16:43 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 16:38 PanN wrote:On March 02 2011 16:34 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Bullshit, they treat people who run onto the field and interfere with the game more roughly. No reason the owl should get special treatment. Maybe the fact that the owl probably has the mind equivalent to a child would change your mind. Please don't act tough or hard here, it makes you look pathetic when your horrible negative outlook gets challenged. (im pretty sure that was a joke)
I'm also sure that special treatment is much more negative outlook ie elitism then just being indiscriminate. Confused his feeling of malaise towards being indiscriminate rather then just the action with in it self which is neither here nor there. In fact the assumption of equal treatment is a much more positive outlook then negative one it assumes equality among all and thus no need for discrimination. :D
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On March 02 2011 16:51 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 16:43 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 02 2011 16:38 PanN wrote:On March 02 2011 16:34 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Bullshit, they treat people who run onto the field and interfere with the game more roughly. No reason the owl should get special treatment. Maybe the fact that the owl probably has the mind equivalent to a child would change your mind. Please don't act tough or hard here, it makes you look pathetic when your horrible negative outlook gets challenged. (im pretty sure that was a joke) I'm also sure that special treatment is much more negative outlook ie elitism then just being indiscriminate. Confused his feeling of malaise towards being indiscriminate rather then just the action with in it self which is neither here nor there. In fact the assumption of equal treatment is a much more positive outlook then negative one it assumes equality among all and thus no need for discrimination. :D
I'm sick of hearing you talk semantics.
(I only wrote that because mentally inserting commas and getting different meanings makes me giggle)
Honestly though, I can't fathom a single reason why anyone would get all up in arms over this. I know this is going to seem super callous to some people, but is this really important enough to give the guy any sort of grief over? I don't think it is.
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On March 02 2011 16:38 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 16:34 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Bullshit, they treat people who run onto the field and interfere with the game more roughly. No reason the owl should get special treatment. Maybe the fact that the owl probably has the mind equivalent to a child would change your mind. Please don't act tough or hard here, it makes you look pathetic when your horrible negative outlook gets challenged.
Edit: apparently I missed the sarcasm in this.. 
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