EPT[Veganism] Fucking humanity - Page 15
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
What about lions, shouldn't we eliminate the lions? They're so cruel when they're hunting their prey, choking on their necks for half an hour. And fucking meteority. They just hit the earth and kill millons, just for the lulz. | ||
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teh_longinator
Canada725 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:25 keioh wrote: I'd gladly have to hunt for my meat. With a spear. In the forest. This way prey could stand a chance. But if I meet a vegan, I might hunt him... Why would you hunt a vegan? There won't be any protein in the meat  | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
I eat red meat because it TASTES GOOD and nothing else will really change that. I quite like my quality of life as it is and I frankly don't care about the cow that died to achieve it. Thankfully people such as yourselves take up the fight so I can feel like less of a jackass though, just don't shove it in my face. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:16 Wasteweiser wrote: Well your video just showed what humans have done to survive since the dawn of our existance. Soon we're going to have people who only drink water because they refuse to give fruits and veggies suffering..... I kind of dislike PETA to the point of hating them. I dislike vegans, but your argument is such a slippery slope fallacy and misrepresenting their argument. Animals unlike plants can actually suffer in our sense of the word. Unless you have some groundbreaking scientific facts to share. | ||
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nOia.pod
Hungary263 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:27 teh_longinator wrote: Why would you hunt a vegan? There won't be any protein in the meat But more energy! | ||
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Skeny
Australia121 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:26 zimz wrote: hey guys our ancestors ate animals. if they were so picky, we wouldn't be here. Ancestors did not use the industrialised agricultural system to slaughter animals on mass like we do today. Furthermore they did what was necessary to survive, we can do the same and not eat meat. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
I also find it remarkably offensive how many vegetarians or vegans seem to equate eating meat with being okay with animal cruelty. I buy free-range eggs where I can. When there is a similar option for meat, I do so. If there isn't an option, thats a shame, but I'm not going to go without meat just because of the lack of option. The animal is already dead and gone. By labelling those who eat meat (the majority of the first world population) as pariahs, you do nothing but hurt your own cause, as evidenced by the large amount of contempt exhibited for vegans/vegetarians in this thread. if you want to be helping your own cause, you need to be shutting up about it, eating the way you want to eat and letting others eat the way they want to eat, and lobbying to find other commercially viable ways of providing meat for a large population. key word there, commercially viable. You can't just say "stop the mass slaughter of cows!" without providing an alternative for how to get mass quantities of beef to the consumer, because all you're basically going to achieve is making a lot of noise, no one listens to you, and you repeat that ad nauseum every few years. | ||
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samuraibael
Australia294 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:17 teh_longinator wrote: Very sick shit indeed! Epicly sick shit, that made me hungry as shit  However, is this REALLY any different that how people treat other humans? We'll stab eachother and leave them for dead in the street for the sake of money, what do you think we'll do to animals for the ability to sustain ourselves? I can see how this kind of stuff could be kinda offputting, however, I don't think that a 5 minute video portraying a minute percentage of farms should put anyone off of meat... Yes it is completely different to how we treat other humans. If we do this to other humans we get jailed. Anyway cruelty doesnt justify cruelty. As for minute percentage, do you imagine the other ones are mass slaughtering the animals kindly? It is cruel and unethical to eat meat. You can either accept that you are a selfish immoral person and eat it anyway (as I do), or become vegan. Those who mock vegan/vegetarians make me sick. | ||
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Rasva_Pallo
Finland126 Posts
I don't think all meat eaters (including me) are monsters if they can eat meat after watching the video and I don't think highly of people saying "I'm going vegan cause it's better than being meat eater". Tho I have to say I will think twice from now on do I really want that slice of meat on my bread. I'll have to thank you for posting the link to the video, it made me give another thought to some things. | ||
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Essentia
1150 Posts
We have teeth that are both for tearing flesh and also crunching a good piece of broccoli. Also our intestines are that of an omnivore. EDIT: I was a vegan for a year and I gained a lot of weight because most of my calories came from heavy carbohydrate foods like breads and pastas since I didn't eat meat. I found as soon as I went back to my normal diet I ate a lot of lean meats and still ate the vegetables and lost a a ton of weight and put on muscle and in general was a lot healthier. | ||
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brokenSC
United States84 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:28 Kyhol wrote: Poor bastards. They all pay the price for our mass population. Organisms need to die for us to be able to live, no matter how graphic, this is reality. I hope that no one gets too emotionally attached watching videos like this, it will only cause needless pain. If you don't want this to happen then tough luck, but if you want to do something about it then become a vegan. I don't see this being much different then any animal being brutally murdered in the wild. Any organism that exists needs to consume, as heartbreaking as it is we're all indirectly/directly involved. Edit: Yeah I do agree that they are all being treated really badly, they deserve better lives before we kill them. I'd rather eat a happy cow then a sad cow. Organisms have to die for others to survive. I'm sorry to inform you that this is how nature works. Would you rather get your face clawed off and throat ripped apart by a tiger or slammed on the head? Just saying. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:20 tbrown47 wrote: That is a bit convoluted... you are bringing in something not related to the argument just to complicate things. Maybe, but you are simplifying things too much, so | ||
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Aeropunk
Australia255 Posts
I'm totally against animal cruelty and am 100% for laws and regulations to stop animal cruelty, but I'm also 100% for eating animals that have been killed and prepared in a humane way. Unfortunately most videos and comments from people are very heavily emotionally loading as this is a topic that a lot of people feel strongly about. We just need to get rid of the bastards who abuse animals just for a little bit more money. | ||
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
It's the people that are actively involved in PETA and the people that buy organic meat products that are making a bigger difference. And you don't have to be vegan to do these things. In no way do I advocate animal cruelty. It's just these industry practices are very efficient, so they pursue them for the sake of cutting costs and increasing profits. Regulations should be put into place, imo. Sure, meat prices will go up in effect, but we all consume enough meat as it is. Cutting back a little won't hurt anyone. Bottom line: being vegan and using shock videos isn't going to change anything. It'll just make people more jaded. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:31 Dhalphir wrote: Humans are not physiologically designed to be vegetarian/vegan. You can't deny that. Its not a matter of opinion. Its just fact. I also find it remarkably offensive how many vegetarians or vegans seem to equate eating meat with being okay with animal cruelty. I buy free-range eggs where I can. When there is a similar option for meat, I do so. If there isn't an option, thats a shame, but I'm not going to go without meat just because of the lack of option. The animal is already dead and gone. By labelling those who eat meat (the majority of the first world population) as pariahs, you do nothing but hurt your own cause, as evidenced by the large amount of contempt exhibited for vegans/vegetarians in this thread. if you want to be helping your own cause, you need to be shutting up about it, eating the way you want to eat and letting others eat the way they want to eat, and lobbying to find other commercially viable ways of providing meat for a large population. key word there, commercially viable. You can't just say "stop the mass slaughter of cows!" without providing an alternative for how to get mass quantities of beef to the consumer, because all you're basically going to achieve is making a lot of noise, no one listens to you, and you repeat that ad nauseum every few years. Wonderfully put Dhalphir if only more people thought this way. I pride you on buying the free-range egges and "organic" beef. | ||
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
Going vegan makes you more healthy? You can be an omnivore and stay healthy. If all you eat is 12 hamburgers and 5 pizzas a day, it doesn't matter what diet you start to follow. Of course you will lose weight and be healthier. | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=185282¤tpage=2#23 | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
If you want to eat veggies for your entire life just for the sake of it,or because you enjoy them,go on. But eating veggies beliving that this somehow will stop animal slaughter is laughable. It's just like stopping fapping and/or having sex in attempt to stop the porn industry or rapists. There are other ways around. That's what I mean. Meat is a physical necessity ,as a human being you need it,just like sex. That's how you are made. Go have some of both. My 2 cents. P.S. There are people that live in worse conditions than those animals. Think about it. Some kiddo starves to death,and you are here ,in your luxurious house, being picky for animals whose destiny is to be hunted. Nice logic bro. | ||
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
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