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~GhoSt
Profile Joined October 2010
145 Posts
November 12 2010 07:43 GMT
#1
Note: Please do not start a flame war/balance QQs/etc etc. And if there's a similar thread to this, I couldn't find it, sorry.

Just wondering what your favorite MU to watch is and why. Personally I like ZvPs, especially when both players use the full extent of their race. I think my favorite ZvP so far was MysticPrime vs. ChitaPrime on metalopolis, where Mystic went nuts with the nydus worms, but Chita held on and played really well himself. Overall ZvP seems to be full of action, at least from all the korean replays I watch. I also enjoy, PvT in super late game, especially if it comes down to a gigantic "war of the worlds" type battle(s).

So what's your favorite match up to watch?

Poll: What's your favorite MU to watch?

TvZ (143)
 
46%

PvZ (96)
 
31%

TvP (29)
 
9%

TvT (25)
 
8%

ZvZ (11)
 
4%

PvP (5)
 
2%

309 total votes

Your vote: What's your favorite MU to watch?

(Vote): TvT
(Vote): TvZ
(Vote): TvP
(Vote): PvP
(Vote): PvZ
(Vote): ZvZ

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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 12 2010 07:46 GMT
#2
I love PvZ. The diversity of strats I see move much beyond other matchups. TvZ looks nice occasioanlly but does not bring the constant diversity that PvZ does for me.
iNversion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States107 Posts
November 12 2010 07:47 GMT
#3
PvZ and TvZ are both fairly interesting. As far as mirrors go TvT>>>>>>the other two for me.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 12 2010 07:51 GMT
#4
I love PvZ as well as TvZ. Also I think ZvZ can be very entertaining from a spectator's POV.
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
November 12 2010 07:52 GMT
#5
TvZ by far.
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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
November 12 2010 07:52 GMT
#6
PVP owns

Blink Stalkers vs collosus+immortals
Mothership rush vs gateway units
etc.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 12 2010 07:54 GMT
#7
if TvP would evolve into the mech style Painuser used on Tyler on Kulas, then that could end up as one of my favorites =)
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Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
November 12 2010 07:55 GMT
#8
i like TvZ. theres the mutas and the banelings and the green acid flying everywhere and the marines melting and the warm fuzzy feeling in my heart
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Craz
Profile Joined June 2004
United States69 Posts
November 12 2010 07:56 GMT
#9
TvZ, marines vs banelings is generally pretty entertaining. Especially burrowed or baneling bombs. Add in infestors and it can get messy fast.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
November 12 2010 07:58 GMT
#10
TvZ, both sides have the largest diversity of strats available so the game feels very different.

PvZ is fun to watch for similar reason.

In TvP the midgame is ALMOST always bioball vs. robo bay units, so I don't like it very much.

ZvZ is actually kinda fun and crazy because no one has it really 'figured out' yet.
echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
November 12 2010 08:27 GMT
#11
I used to love the classic TvZ, but I gotta admit that PvZ feels like much more of a "strong" fight. It really requires some creativity on the P side and split second decision making on the Z side (as always, but even moreso depending on how P plays). Yeah yeah, I get that mass marines and baneling micro is fun to watch, but the stuff P comes up with right now is so so so interesting and terrifying to me as a zerg player. Very fun. Sometimes I get stomped in seconds. Sometimes I stomp instantly. And anything else is pure gold. Very fun.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 08:32:51
November 12 2010 08:28 GMT
#12
TvZ. It was also my favorite match up in BW too
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
November 12 2010 08:28 GMT
#13
On November 12 2010 16:52 aztrorisk wrote:
PVP owns

Blink Stalkers vs collosus+immortals
Mothership rush vs gateway units
etc.

Wow your so alone lol
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 12 2010 08:28 GMT
#14
tvz. Funny if you ask me was the best match up in BW (imo) and the best Match up to watch in SC2 also :D
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
November 12 2010 08:31 GMT
#15
PvZ > TvZ > PvT > TvT > ZvZ > PvP

Actually most casters seem to prefer casting TvZ a lot so it starts to get boring.
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 12 2010 08:31 GMT
#16
TvZ. But I guess that's also partly because we've had so many cool games lately in this match up.
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hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
November 12 2010 08:37 GMT
#17
TvZ for SC2, PvZ for bw. If storms were made more viable in PvZ it would easily become my favourite.
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intergalactic
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada428 Posts
November 12 2010 08:38 GMT
#18
TvZ is just the classic showdown, Starship Troopers style. Most fun to watch by far ^^
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10850 Posts
November 12 2010 08:39 GMT
#19
ZvT > PvZ > TvT > ZvZ > PvT > PvP.

PvT... Bioball vs Gateway/Robo is just boring.
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
November 12 2010 08:39 GMT
#20
On November 12 2010 17:31 Alpina wrote:
PvZ > TvZ > PvT > TvT > ZvZ > PvP



This gets my vote as well.

lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 12 2010 08:41 GMT
#21
ZvP = ZvT > PvT > TvT = PvP >>>> ZvZ

ZvZ is BORING.
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ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
November 12 2010 08:42 GMT
#22
This is so not fair after watching the epic foxer/kyrix matches.
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dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
November 12 2010 08:49 GMT
#23
i guess if you're a zerg progamer you'll get a lot more interested viewers... picking zerg might be a pretty good strategy for players who crave exposure
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
November 12 2010 08:54 GMT
#24
TvZ and TvT are by far the most entertaining matchups, Protoss are just really boring.
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
November 12 2010 08:54 GMT
#25
ZvP for both SC2 and BW.

Oh how I wish Protoss would make it farther in GSL.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
November 12 2010 09:05 GMT
#26
I just love seeing TvZ, because there is action most of the times. Harassment has a big role in these games, and relatively small mistakes can lead to gigantic gaps in the later game.

It just feels very fast paced, for that it gets my vote =)
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disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
November 12 2010 09:06 GMT
#27
Loved TvZ in BW and love it now. PvZ get's a second place. I do enjoy mirror matchups more now than I did in BW though.
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eksert
Profile Joined August 2010
France656 Posts
November 12 2010 09:06 GMT
#28
ZvZ is my favourite, because my apm has to go up to 280s! i love it!
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 09:14:46
November 12 2010 09:11 GMT
#29
new tvz, relentless aggression or doomball vs SO MANY BANELINGS +other stuff.

1 base tvz is on the other hand best known as booooorring



playing it on the other hand at least from my T pov is pretty tense so as for favorite played mu i'm not sure.

"best" mirror would be TvT, only one that doesn't suck horribly imo.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2010 09:22 GMT
#30
PvT > TvZ > TvP > ZvZ = TvT = PvP

Mirror matches are too short, people really need to learn how to play long macro based games in mirrors. But it wont happen till somebody figures out how to consequently play a good defense.
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
November 12 2010 09:24 GMT
#31
On November 12 2010 18:22 Koshi wrote:
PvT > TvZ > TvP > ZvZ = TvT = PvP

Mirror matches are too short, people really need to learn how to play long macro based games in mirrors. But it wont happen till somebody figures out how to consequently play a good defense.


you have pvt twice
~GhoSt
Profile Joined October 2010
145 Posts
November 12 2010 09:29 GMT
#32
On November 12 2010 18:24 wooozy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:22 Koshi wrote:
PvT > TvZ > TvP > ZvZ = TvT = PvP

Mirror matches are too short, people really need to learn how to play long macro based games in mirrors. But it wont happen till somebody figures out how to consequently play a good defense.


you have pvt twice


Maybe that's how epic he thinks it is lol. I just hope PvT transitions more into what it was back in BW, because they produced some pretty epic match ups (BeST anyone?). But it's interesting to see how so many people love the TvZ match ups, I guess the micro game is coming back large from a Boxer
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sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
November 12 2010 09:31 GMT
#33
TvT>Any non-mirror>PvP>ZvZ
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Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
November 12 2010 09:31 GMT
#34
ZvP and TvZ where Zerg wins. gotta have Zerg in the match up
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 12 2010 09:38 GMT
#35
Non-mirror - TvZ

Mirror - TvT

Anything involving protoss tends to be highly boring to watch because toss barely does any harassing these days. This is what any protoss matchup looks like to me:

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Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
November 12 2010 09:39 GMT
#36
TvZ for sure. Banelings vs Terran is so much fun to see micro'd. I don't really like protoss matchups because collosus just seem really lame to me.
blackh3d
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia49 Posts
November 12 2010 09:40 GMT
#37
R v R imo is the best matchup to watch

you never know what you're gonna get until the loading screen

Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 09:42:45
November 12 2010 09:41 GMT
#38
On November 12 2010 18:29 ~GhoSt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:24 wooozy wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:22 Koshi wrote:
PvT > TvZ > TvP > ZvZ = TvT = PvP

Mirror matches are too short, people really need to learn how to play long macro based games in mirrors. But it wont happen till somebody figures out how to consequently play a good defense.


you have pvt twice


Maybe that's how epic he thinks it is lol. I just hope PvT transitions more into what it was back in BW, because they produced some pretty epic match ups (BeST anyone?). But it's interesting to see how so many people love the TvZ match ups, I guess the micro game is coming back large from a Boxer


Pretty sure you'll find BeSt on the other end of that mu now, toss is the doompusher and the terran is the one sending his troops to the grinder.

I'd not object to having it the other way around, I like tanks... a lot, but I guess i'll have to try to mimic BeSt's flanks and epic neverending supply of troops.
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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
November 12 2010 09:44 GMT
#39
i love zvt because theres so many banelings!

NeXiLe
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada262 Posts
November 12 2010 10:17 GMT
#40
Like most people I love tvz. Did in BW too. I play protoss though so I tend to not watch as many tvz's but they're definitely the most entertaining. I just feel like I'd like to find SOMETHING to learn/want to try in a game so I generally don't see many tvz's unless it's a big tournament game.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
November 12 2010 10:18 GMT
#41
Me, myself and I.
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~GhoSt
Profile Joined October 2010
145 Posts
November 12 2010 10:21 GMT
#42
On November 12 2010 18:41 Grebliv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:29 ~GhoSt wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:24 wooozy wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:22 Koshi wrote:
PvT > TvZ > TvP > ZvZ = TvT = PvP

Mirror matches are too short, people really need to learn how to play long macro based games in mirrors. But it wont happen till somebody figures out how to consequently play a good defense.


you have pvt twice


Maybe that's how epic he thinks it is lol. I just hope PvT transitions more into what it was back in BW, because they produced some pretty epic match ups (BeST anyone?). But it's interesting to see how so many people love the TvZ match ups, I guess the micro game is coming back large from a Boxer


Pretty sure you'll find BeSt on the other end of that mu now, toss is the doompusher and the terran is the one sending his troops to the grinder.

I'd not object to having it the other way around, I like tanks... a lot, but I guess i'll have to try to mimic BeSt's flanks and epic neverending supply of troops.


True words indeed sir, true words. I, as a fan of starcraft, just like to see epic games. I don't like 2-3 harasses, big push, win. But I find the ICCup maps on SC2 to be quite enjoyable, and I hope the tournament directors for GSL3 will throw in some ICCup maps. Considering they seem to have less minerals per patch/geyser, so expanding becomes more vital, and when I play custom games on ICCup maps, I feel my play gets more broodwar-esque, so how much better for the much ups if I can get to see my favorite players play on these maps. Something like Tester vs. NaDa on Blue Storm, or SlayerS_BoxeR vs. NaDa on Match Point, FoxeR vs. InCa on Heartbreak Ridge <3.
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johngalt90
Profile Joined May 2010
United States357 Posts
November 12 2010 10:24 GMT
#43
id rather watch a mirror than TvP so boring and stale. MMM is god for winning games not for spectating. on the other hand zerg is so macro based that it makes for great games of many bases and intense battles. ZvX is very dynamic and entertaining
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netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
November 12 2010 10:25 GMT
#44
TvZ is the most exciting.
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Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
November 12 2010 10:27 GMT
#45
PvZ because everything is basically viable against eachother at different times.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
November 12 2010 10:31 GMT
#46
ZvZ

roach vs roach is the most fun to watch
ci_esteban
Profile Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
November 12 2010 10:34 GMT
#47
Definitely TvT. It resembles BW the most and anything that resembles BW will be the most entertaining to watch lol.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
November 12 2010 10:37 GMT
#48
PvZ every day.
KingVietKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
November 12 2010 10:40 GMT
#49
RvR
asmo.0
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway318 Posts
November 12 2010 10:41 GMT
#50
TvZ feels like the most dynamic matchup and is definitally the most interesting.
As a zerg, maybe Im a bit biased Though I actually prefer PvP over TvT and ZvZ...
Speedbump
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
New Zealand338 Posts
November 12 2010 10:49 GMT
#51
TvZ IMO is the most fun match-up to play and watch. The ability for cunning to play a huge part in the mid-game is what entices me to the match-up.

TvT is usually interesting, as long as it's not Tank+Viking+Marine wars.

I tend to hate TvP, because it's all about bio vs Colossi. PvP is worse though, because I haven't seen many deviations from 4-gate into mass colossi.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 12 2010 11:03 GMT
#52
tvt in bw and then in sc2 :p. In bw its just epic tank lines everywhere and turrets. In sc2 the flying goliath aka viking and the 3 supply for tanks and the 100 costs for the towers ruin the fun a bit and make the games a bit shorter. Also tvt is the match up where you can go mech only before reaching the 3/3 upgrades and the 200 supply and building mashine docks at every ramp and expo.
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
November 12 2010 11:09 GMT
#53
TvZ is the most fun matchup to watch.
Long TvT's is really epic, probably the only decent mirror matchup.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 12 2010 11:21 GMT
#54
There's no similar threads because it's a contentless poll thread. It's just people listing stuff.
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Carefoot
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada410 Posts
November 12 2010 11:21 GMT
#55
On November 12 2010 18:40 blackh3d wrote:
R v R imo is the best matchup to watch

you never know what you're gonna get until the loading screen


To watch and play by a long long shots.
Long macro mirror matches, and then TvZ then everything else.
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