EPTNaDa vs. TLO Showmatch? :P - Page 18
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HeIios
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
On August 21 2010 11:39 ooni wrote: Well Skip to 14:00 Top gamers are genetically equiped to play the game. You are assuming that all the skill comes from playing the game. Sadly, whatever you want to believe some people are better in play the piano than others, some people are just better Tennis players (mental and/or physical aspect) than others and some people are just better gamer than others. Because end of the day, there are people who puts in so much effort in one thing and eventually they have to face another person who is gifted and puts effort into the same thing. Of course it's not because Nada has 'Korean genetics' that he's a good RTS player. Look at it this way a lot of Koreans play starcraft. A lot of them would practice 5+hr a day. At least one of those who put a lot of effort in the game have to be genetically better than others. Not everyone's brain functions in the same way. Some are most artistic and some are more mathematical. The real question is though, isn't TLO somewhat naturally gifted too? yeah im wondering if you even watched the freaking video you sent me 1.) it clearly says that the pro is playing purely outa instinct. do you know what that even means? that means hes playing out of muscle memory, he instinctly does it without thinking. there is no intellect/logic/reasoning behind any of those. you get that by playing 1000 hours. any retard can do that when they play that many hours. every idiot on this world knows how to type well. its those that know what to type who succeed. 2.) starcraft barely emphasizes skill when relative to the intellect it suggests 3.) nobody can be gifted at starcraft. you can be gifted to have great dexterity (skil) or/and great intelligence (strategic) but none of that attributes to an overall better play unless the person masses games to play instinctively. like tlo said, the highest level of focus is where your not even aware of what your fingers are doing. they just DO. this DOES not come from someone being gifted, this comes from PRACTICE. Im not sure if your mom told you that you were gifted but to succeed in SC, PRACTICE IS KEY. The same goes for FPS gaming. It doesn't matter if your albert einstein or cristiano ronaldo, if you do not have the feel for the game, if you cannot play instinctively YOU WILL LOOSE TO SOMEONE WHO DOES. | ||
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Trollment
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Awfml
United States5 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 21 2010 17:44 Awfml wrote: So is this being casted in fifteen minutes? I literally just woke up lol, it's almost 5am here in Boston. It's supposed to be on now. It's still Quake at the moment though. | ||
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Narien
Sweden31 Posts
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
On August 21 2010 11:57 MythicalMage wrote: That's not entirely correct. A lot of the good westerners play a ton. You CAN fit in eight hours of play with school/college. Just not easily. Plus with the way the game is headed, you will see full time pro gamers in the West. Now there is an argument for skill, and progamers like Nada definitely have that. But whether that skill is any greater than anyone else is entirely debatable. Also of note, if anyone's going to be good at this game, my moneys on China, not Korea. We(America) beat Korea in the US vs China vs Korea showmatch thing in beta, but China beat us. From what I recall, they had the best Warcraft 3 players, and I see a similar trend in Starcraft 2. LOLOLOL this is halarious. A few guys in korea that are really good beats a few guys in NA that are good therefor ALL KOREANS ARE BETTER PLAYERS THAN ALL NA/EU PLAYERS OMG OMG OMG !! see that sound logic? | ||
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Trollment
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radu_c
Romania226 Posts
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_magik
Netherlands146 Posts
On August 21 2010 17:48 Narien wrote: Does anyone have a link for it? i would love to watch :D but have no idea of where to tune in... http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-free | ||
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
On August 21 2010 17:43 virgozero wrote: yeah im wondering if you even watched the freaking video you sent me 1.) it clearly says that the pro is playing purely outa instinct. do you know what that even means? that means hes playing out of muscle memory, he instinctly does it without thinking. there is no intellect/logic/reasoning behind any of those. you get that by playing 1000 hours. any retard can do that when they play that many hours. every idiot on this world knows how to type well. its those that know what to type who succeed. 2.) starcraft barely emphasizes skill when relative to the intellect it suggests 3.) nobody can be gifted at starcraft. you can be gifted to have great dexterity (skil) or/and great intelligence (strategic) but none of that attributes to an overall better play unless the person masses games to play instinctively. like tlo said, the highest level of focus is where your not even aware of what your fingers are doing. they just DO. this DOES not come from someone being gifted, this comes from PRACTICE. Im not sure if your mom told you that you were gifted but to succeed in SC, PRACTICE IS KEY. The same goes for FPS gaming. It doesn't matter if your albert einstein or cristiano ronaldo, if you do not have the feel for the game, if you cannot play instinctively YOU WILL LOOSE TO SOMEONE WHO DOES. Ha so no progamer must practice like Flash or Jaedong. Am I right? No doubt practice is important, but at higher levels everyone practices hard. I have not even said once you don't need practive btw~ Okay... sorry. You must think that you can play like Flash or Jaedong if you practice as much as them. I'm just going to start rolling on the floor now. I didn't say starcraft per say, but a gamer. Read what I said. A lot of ppl put a lot of effort into starcraft it doesnt mean they will be the next bonjwa. Some people are born to be better at something, it does not have to be starcraft but skill associated with starcraft. "A person with faster reaction time will benefit in a game like Starcraft". Every progamer put effort in the game, like the video says a person/progamer who practices more than average progamers don't get better than progamers and it asks that question directly. At the end of the day some people will just do better and are born to do better. I am sorry if you think all people have same abilities as others, I just feel pity. Well assuming skills in BW carries over to SC2. Personally I was D in Iccup but Diamond in SC2. I found SC2 so so easy adept. | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
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Creek
United States177 Posts
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
United States679 Posts
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_magik
Netherlands146 Posts
On August 21 2010 17:50 Dental Floss wrote: Is there a non-octoshape stream? I don't want to install software that uploads shit while I'm *not* watching a stream. Thats just creepy. Nah, just use it and uninstall after the tourney. | ||
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_magik
Netherlands146 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
On August 21 2010 17:52 _magik wrote: Nah, just use it and uninstall after the tourney. I'll just watch the VODs later instead of risking my bandwidth being stolen while I'm not actually trying to steam something. | ||
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Narien
Sweden31 Posts
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_magik
Netherlands146 Posts
On August 21 2010 17:53 Dental Floss wrote: I'll just watch the VODs later instead of risking my bandwidth being stolen while I'm not actually trying to steam something. You could run it in a virtual machine if you're paranoid  EDIT: didn't catch your edit. You could use a decent firewall to prevent outgoing traffic. | ||
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