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BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 09 2010 17:37 GMT
#1
Hey, so there have been a lot of negative comments being made about my stream and also me personally and I just wanted to address a couple of them (notice I'm doing it in my personal blog).

First of all, please do not watch my stream for a couple of minutes, jump to conclusions about those couple of minutes that you think apply to my overall stream, and publicly announce your assumptions on the forums. If you think there is a problem you are free to PM me about anything at anytime, but I really dont see the need to tarnish my reputation publicly.

With that being said, I think if people actually tuned in regularly, a lot of these complaints (lack of constructive criticism) will be resolved.

For example, if you think I don't know a lot about a particular matchup and tune in often, you will hear me often recognize that I am not an expert and specifically say, "I'm not exactly sure but..." or... "I'm not an expert but..." And I will always correct myself if I find something I said to be invalid.

Also if you think that I have a big "ego" or am too arrogant, I beg you to continue watching my stream for a couple of minutes. I am the only caster than I know that actively communicates with my viewers on a constant basis. I communicate on facebook, any messengers, bnet, tl.net, etc. I think I am above no one, never act like it, and I'm not sure how people get the impression that I do.

Next, if you think I try to "hoard viewers"... Please actually tune into my stream... This couldn't be further away from the truth. I am aware that I am privileged to have my viewers watch my stream when they could watch any stream that they want to. I never worry about hitting numbers or "hoarding viewers". Watch my stream for more than a couple of minutes please.

Lastly, I do apologize to huk for showing his email but he wasn't really upset, so you guys shouldnt be either... relax please lol.



Now with all that being said however, I am going to be taking the actual pieces of constructive criticism into consideration! I will do my best to show more of the battles, pay more attention to the minimap, and slow down my mouse movements. I realize that not everyone is accustom to moving at such high speeds. I will also figure out how to disable all of my background sounds such as aim, skype, etc.

If anyone else has anymore CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM (not complaints), please feel free to let me know.

Thanks to everyone for watching my marathon stream last night (11 hours) and supporting me!! Hopefully you all tune in for the IEM semis and finals tonight at 8pm EST! Thanks again guys <3

Big T
Big T
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 17:42:48
August 09 2010 17:39 GMT
#2
I didn't really agree with alot of the criticism but wasn't the beef about you divulging information to Huk about the past 2 games in a series before the 3rd game?

yeah you actually didn't mention that...
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
August 09 2010 17:44 GMT
#3
Take it like a man. i watched your stream for the OWCs cause it was the only one that worked for me. All i remember is some childish fued over who is allowed in the game and who not.
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
August 09 2010 17:44 GMT
#4
I only watched up to the part where you divulged info to Huk. IMO you should do a no-communication policy with all players when you're casting a tournament...
life
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
August 09 2010 17:45 GMT
#5
Please stop making these posts.

If you really care about only taking "constructive criticisms" then just ignore the rest and take the useful advice. You're entering what is already a very saturated "market" of SC2 commentary so prepare for criticisms no matter what. If you can't accept that, I don't see how you ever can get your stream to improve in the first place.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
August 09 2010 17:51 GMT
#6
I have a solution for you if you're tired of defending yourself:

DON'T DO IT. Why should you?

Let people think what they want, and you can have your own opinions on yourself.
You might think you're good at something, but obviously there always someone better unless you are Flash.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 09 2010 17:53 GMT
#7
If you make defensive posts, things will get worse. Husky handles criticism better than anyone else. Look at his posts for a model on how to deal with it.

Basically, if you get criticism, just say stuff like "Yeah, I'm still learning the game and trying to improve my knowledge. I hope you enjoy my casting even if I don't get everything completely correct!"

There's a fine line between deflecting criticism and being defensive. You're currently over that line.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 09 2010 17:56 GMT
#8
Stop crying and just keep doing what you do. Your casting is great and you cover a lot of events, your actions speak louder than your words. There's always gonna be haters no matter what, but no one wants to read an essay every time you feelings get hurt.
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
August 09 2010 17:57 GMT
#9
"I realize that not everyone is accustom to moving at such high speeds."

I actually laughed out loud when I read that, you're talking about a community who watches professional starcraft for christs sake!

And you're clearly being defensive, stop posting things like this or they're just going to get worse.
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 09 2010 17:57 GMT
#10
On August 10 2010 02:51 Piste wrote:
I have a solution for you if you're tired of defending yourself:

DON'T DO IT. Why should you?

Let people think what they want, and you can have your own opinions on yourself.
You might think you're good at something, but obviously there always someone better unless you are Flash.


Or Day[9] since we were talking about commentating here ^^

Also chill out man, haters gonna hate, there are people out there who doesn't even like Day9 or TL itself...so it's no surprising you got some bad comments..
ggaemo fan
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 09 2010 18:04 GMT
#11
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
August 09 2010 18:15 GMT
#12
If you don't know a lot about matchups and are still learning the game why do you have a stream going in the first place? It's malpractice. Many of the other reputable casters have been exposed to sc1 and all that comes with it. And the viewers can differentiate who and who has not. Spend some time really being around the top amateur scene before diving into analysis and casting a deep real time strategy game. I just don't think your ready yet.

Oh and try to take it on the chin a bit more. You can't please everyone, and you know this.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 07:13:17
August 09 2010 18:15 GMT
#13
Dude, just ignore the internet. Ask people to PM you if they have something useful to say, otherwise ignore it all. You spend time setting up the stream, gaming, commenting. Its a huge effort on your part. If someone that also streams criticizes you, then you can listen. Otherwise, who cares about random Internet opinions?
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 09 2010 18:27 GMT
#14
You better get used to it if you want to be a big featured streamer. You know how much shit comes my way on a daily basis? "Your commentators were mean to me", "Your commentators do this or that", blah blah blah. It's part of the territory so get used to it.

Personally I think giving players advice in between games is wrong but I was by no means blown away or like "oh wow that guy should die and have his babies sacrificed to the sun god" like the other thread. But I would not do that again imo.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 18:37:58
August 09 2010 18:37 GMT
#15
On August 10 2010 03:04 Xeris wrote:
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional

I don't think he should try and be more professional at all. It's good to have a caster that isn't afraid to swear or insult anyone. The last thing we need is another day[9] clone who candy coats everything he says because quite frankly it's gotten quite bland.

Keep up the good work BigT, you're one of my favorites.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 09 2010 18:40 GMT
#16
On August 10 2010 03:37 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:04 Xeris wrote:
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional

I don't think he should try and be more professional at all. It's good to have a caster that isn't afraid to swear or insult anyone. The last thing we need is another day[9] clone who candy coats everything he says because quite frankly it's gotten quite bland.

Keep up the good work BigT, you're one of my favorites.


I never said anything about swearing OO...

I think when you are casting events you should be professional, when youre streaming random shit, do w/e you want
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 09 2010 18:46 GMT
#17
On August 10 2010 03:04 Xeris wrote:
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional


I dont bad mouth any casters... and I focus on the games and provide analysis as much as possible... but in between games, I like to gossip with the viewers. Please tune in for more than a couple of minutes and see for yourself what i'm really about.

And I am going to be defensive because most of the complaints are just untrue. And even they are are untrue, rumors destroy people's reputations so I want to make sure that I set the record straight. And I will be continuing to do so... People's opinions of me should not be based on all the negative complaints that people publicly post after jumping to quick conclusions based off of a couple minutes of watching my stream. They should have the freedom to not be biases before watching my stream and see for themselves.

I constantly admit that I make errors on my stream and that I clearly do not know everything. I make jokes about how little i know in fact. I am very humble, take criticism, and admit when I'm wrong. But I'm damn well going to make sure that I make sure that my reputation doesn't get tarnished because of ridiculous assumptions.
Big T
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
August 09 2010 18:48 GMT
#18
On August 10 2010 03:40 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:37 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:04 Xeris wrote:
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional

I don't think he should try and be more professional at all. It's good to have a caster that isn't afraid to swear or insult anyone. The last thing we need is another day[9] clone who candy coats everything he says because quite frankly it's gotten quite bland.

Keep up the good work BigT, you're one of my favorites.


I never said anything about swearing OO...

I think when you are casting events you should be professional, when youre streaming random shit, do w/e you want

Yeah you're right, i just assumed you meant swearing and stuff, my bad. But I do like a certain amount of un professionalism. Perhaps it just adds extra entertainment to otherwise boring games.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
August 09 2010 18:52 GMT
#19
On August 10 2010 03:48 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:40 Xeris wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:37 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:04 Xeris wrote:
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional

I don't think he should try and be more professional at all. It's good to have a caster that isn't afraid to swear or insult anyone. The last thing we need is another day[9] clone who candy coats everything he says because quite frankly it's gotten quite bland.

Keep up the good work BigT, you're one of my favorites.


I never said anything about swearing OO...

I think when you are casting events you should be professional, when youre streaming random shit, do w/e you want

Yeah you're right, i just assumed you meant swearing and stuff, my bad. But I do like a certain amount of un professionalism. Perhaps it just adds extra entertainment to otherwise boring games.


One thing I DO HAVE TO WORK ON is giving more attention to people actually complementing me. I do have a tendency to give way more attention to people being negative rather than the ones being positive so I deeply apologize for this. Thanks a lot kriket and everyone else whose supporting me and watches, appreciates, and enjoys my stream
Big T
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
August 09 2010 19:29 GMT
#20
Maybe I'm an asshole, but I hate it when people say this is the gayest map ever, which will allow this gaylord to be at his absolute gayest. I don't think it's funny or intelligent. Whatever, thanks for streaming I guess.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
August 10 2010 02:27 GMT
#21
On August 10 2010 03:40 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:37 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:04 Xeris wrote:
Constructive criticism:

- don't bad mouth other casters/streams on your stream (I.E. what i heard last week during the open wolf cup) ... don't gossip or talk about random crap, focus on the games and providing analysis.

- following from the last point, when you're actually casting a tournament and such, you should be professional

I don't think he should try and be more professional at all. It's good to have a caster that isn't afraid to swear or insult anyone. The last thing we need is another day[9] clone who candy coats everything he says because quite frankly it's gotten quite bland.

Keep up the good work BigT, you're one of my favorites.


I never said anything about swearing OO...

I think when you are casting events you should be professional, when youre streaming random shit, do w/e you want


I think theres a level of professionalism that needs to be maintained. As an model to strive towards, Charles Barkley is known for bashing on players and being quite blunt, but he does it with a level of professionalism. I may be wrong, but maybe others don't think you are using the professionalism with your bluntness.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
August 10 2010 02:45 GMT
#22
I don't know if I would call Sir Charles a model in "professionalism". I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really apply here. BigT did just fine tonight too.
With no power comes no responsibility?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 10 2010 03:25 GMT
#23
Criticism comes with the territory of being a known personality.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=65577#1

Read this, then do the opposite.
sutureself
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States192 Posts
August 10 2010 03:48 GMT
#24
I watch a lot of streams, and I just want to point out that I think yours is pretty good. You're not overly hyper, but you're not monotone either. Minimap/screen framing mechanics aside, your commentary was decent and I learned a thing or two watching it the other day.

I won't name names and I do admire all the people who dedicate their time and energy to broadcasting SC/SC2 for the rest of us, but many other streams are unbearable. Literally checking every 1-5 minutes how many new facebook friends they have, how many SC2 friends they have or how many viewers are watching at the moment. Pro tip: No one cares. Brag to your advertisers with that data if you must. I'm sure many other people are like me and lead busy lives, but like to pop on TL to catch a game or two in a spare half hour or whatnot. The more SC content, the better.

You stuck to SC-related content, at least in the time I watched, which is nice. Keep it up.

Finally: A lot of the criticism I saw in chat seemed to be coming from people who didn't even appear to know what SC2 was beyond some passing knowledge that it exists... I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that.
Im tired of following my dreams, man. Im just going to ask them where theyre going and hook up with them later. -mh
schiznak
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia258 Posts
August 10 2010 03:52 GMT
#25
I would like you to define the difference between constructive criticism and complaints, it seems whenever anyone has anything negative to say about you, you get defensive and angry, you then proceed to tell them to phrase it as constructive criticism instead of a complaint.
"That's very e-sports of you to have the camera focused on the people instead of the game" -ultradavid
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
August 10 2010 03:59 GMT
#26
OK, so, you make this huge post about being sorry and all this crap, and then you completely ignore the real reason why everyone thinks you're a bad caster. Awesome.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4339 Posts
August 10 2010 03:59 GMT
#27
I hear just about everyday how much I suck and the many ways I should kill myself.

No worries.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 10 2010 05:00 GMT
#28
Work on pausing. Sometimes you talk about so much that it just overloads the viewers with information. There's an art to knowing when to pause and let your thoughts and ideas sync in. Also, some of your comments CAN be taken as arrogance and a large ego. Not saying that's how they are intended, but that's how they are heard.
Life is Good.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
August 10 2010 05:17 GMT
#29
Just think about it this way. There are what, a couple thousand users on your stream usually? Clearly these hundreds or thousands or whatever it is dont dislike your casting enough to stop watching. They probably even like it. And its not like other people cant cast the same things you do. You dont have to tailor your casting to meet everyones wants, just do it with your own style.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 19:34:33
August 10 2010 19:28 GMT
#30
On August 10 2010 14:00 Alou wrote:
Work on pausing. Sometimes you talk about so much that it just overloads the viewers with information. There's an art to knowing when to pause and let your thoughts and ideas sync in. Also, some of your comments CAN be taken as arrogance and a large ego. Not saying that's how they are intended, but that's how they are heard.


I can work on pauses. But if you listen to my stream for more than a couple of minutes theres a very slim chance you could mistake what i say for as arrogance lol.

On August 10 2010 12:52 schiznak wrote:
I would like you to define the difference between constructive criticism and complaints, it seems whenever anyone has anything negative to say about you, you get defensive and angry, you then proceed to tell them to phrase it as constructive criticism instead of a complaint.


This is completely false. I complaint is just someone bitching about something without the intention of helping me. Constructive criticism is from people who are actually trying to help (without being sarcastic).

On August 10 2010 12:59 rushz0rz wrote:
OK, so, you make this huge post about being sorry and all this crap, and then you completely ignore the real reason why everyone thinks you're a bad caster. Awesome.


I'm sorry, what did I leave out?

On August 10 2010 12:59 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I hear just about everyday how much I suck and the many ways I should kill myself.

No worries.


haha, yeah i hear ya man.

On August 10 2010 04:29 Lexpar wrote:
Maybe I'm an asshole, but I hate it when people say this is the gayest map ever, which will allow this gaylord to be at his absolute gayest. I don't think it's funny or intelligent. Whatever, thanks for streaming I guess.


I'm just communicating in the language I use. I'm not trying to be funny or intelligent I'm just being myself. And your welcome i guess..

And as always, I apologize for giving the negative ones most of my attention, I really shouldn't and it's something that I need to work on! So thank you again so much for everyone who does enjoy watching my stream and supports me!
Big T
omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 20:17:57
August 10 2010 20:15 GMT
#31
I enjoyed the casting on saturday. I like it when people are real and just say a map is gay when they think so.

As for constant crying of people on the internet that's the internet. don't really know how you should respond I just figure there's always going to be too much shit for you to be bothered with especially seeing as you had at least 2300+ viewers on saturday. I'd stick to just getting feedback from friends, or at least people that are invested in SC2 community and have an interest in your stream being successful.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 20:36:12
August 10 2010 20:34 GMT
#32
Tired of you being overly defensive and opening threads to complain about shit that happened in another thread. This is number 2 right?

Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=criticism&t=c&f=-1&u=bigt&gb=date

Please, just get over it and stop opening new threads.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
August 10 2010 20:38 GMT
#33
In fact I see no reason for this not to be in your stream thread. Put it there.
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