EPTI quit smoking 23 days ago. - Page 2
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Cube
Canada777 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On July 24 2010 15:56 waffling1 wrote: it's the image of coolness. it's the only reason why ppl start. even starters hate it at first. they keep at it b/c of peer pressure and the image pressure. heck u even see the SCV in SCV2 with a cig. if the FDA were really looking out for us, they'd ban nicotine, not to mention aspartame as well as lifting the ban on the cure for cancer. Sounds like prohibition, remember how that worked out? Not saying I disagree with you, just saying it wouldn't work. | ||
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Lancette
China120 Posts
I always got sorts of mental irritation when ppl smoke near me and gets agitated... | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
On July 24 2010 16:32 selboN wrote: Sounds like prohibition, remember how that worked out? Not saying I disagree with you, just saying it wouldn't work. i was only trying to make a point. idk if it would work out or not either. the thing is the FDA is being very partial with their bans. if drugs are banned and the cure for cancer is banned, but not glutamate, aspartame, alcohol or nicotine... seriously what's their rationale b/c their claims that one is safe while the other is dangerous is shot full of holes a thousand times over. it's merely their power that enables them to maintain the force. if prohibition didn't work then the drug war and the drug ban wont work either. yet we maintain one and not the other. it wasn't an alcohol thing. the resulting behavior and reaction would be the same for any substance, just as we see now with drugs. the only economic effect it has is that by making something illegal, it's pushed to the black market, and the price goes very high. this is the case with every black market item. what i see in all this is the classic example of concentration of power leading to outcomes that are nonsensical if the intention is to promote good... but make perfect sense when we consider the human heart equipped with concentration of power. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
On July 24 2010 16:35 Lancette wrote: congrat! I always got sorts of mental irritation when ppl smoke near me and gets agitated... stop congratulating him he didn't quit jack. he's also getting suckered for his money. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
The cure for cancer? cure?? Do you even know what cancer fucking is!? (AZ I apologize for getting off-topic, gratz on the break, good luck in the coming weeks) | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
Can people stop spouting this nonsense that nicotine has no positive effects? Its a mood-altering substance, same as weed, alcohol, cocaine, meth, caffeine, and a massive list of other substances. Some people like having their mood altered, and for some people the risk smoking presents is worth it. Every decision you make in life is a cost/benefit analysis. There is no right decision in any case - there are only right decisions for an individual. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
On July 24 2010 15:52 waffling1 wrote: r u serious? of course u dont' have withdrawals... ur not quitting nicotine! u really think those vapors are absolutely innert and have no effect on you? ppl on the patch may just as well say "i quit smoking" too. the real goal of the patch, or any other form of alternative nicotine is to wean down on it. a lesser goal would just be to keep taking the nicotine while avoiding the cigarette chemicals, but that's not really quitting. stop making it sound like u quit. why do u think the E-cig is being all hyped if it's main thing is to deliver the nicotine? there's already a nicotine deliverer without the other chemicals of cigarettes. the nicotine patch. the answer is that it's more profitable than the patch. and it's not that hard for companies to get doctors on board for promotion. also, ppl have too much faith in the bearers of science. science is all sound and dandy, but the people regularly twist, obscure, hide, data, studies, and conclusions. exmaples : aspartame, glutamate, NSAIDs, holding back laetrile on faulty grounds, etc etc etc. I say again, do u really think that vapor is innert and harmless? u know a few decades ago scientists and doctors were promoting ozone inhaling? they had ozone generating machines and whatnot. doctors also recommended smoking the old fashioned cigarettes too. congrats for not truly quitting, and getting suckered into paying more than you need to pay for nicotine. 1) buy patch instead. 2) eventually quit the patch. 3) save $$$ 4) enjoy true health. i know my tone isn't very nice but u do what u want with the info. commendations on the decision for regular jogging. that's something everyone, regardless of smoking status can do. Thank god most people on this website are smart. I can tell you are not. From a perspective not developed in space but in reality I bring you truth. The Electronic Cigarette rewrites thousands of years of history of smoking tobacco, hash, hookah, marijuana. Now using technology which has existed in the marijuana world for years to the tobacco world changes the game. I fucking love smoking. I like nicotine, nicotine does not give me cancer, nicotine is a lot like caffeine. The Electronic Cigarette allows me to eliminate 4,012 (some odd) chemicals AND maintain my personally satisfying luxury. Also I'm at the Modesto location, I'm meeting with doctors for Kaiser smoking cessation next week. The patch has a terrible rate and is horribly expensive. smoke51.com the brand that I sell, is backed with a lifetime warranty on the fucking hardware. ALL YOU BUY IS REFILLS WHICH YOU CAN EVEN MAKE YOURSELF. In my store they are $0.60 a pack. The local valley here in Modesto is plagued with asthma. The local Pulmonary Doctors claim that not only does the product have no effect long term but THAT IS IT SAVING LIVES. The facts are this. If you become addicted to cigarettes at anytime in your life and then quit. After fifteen years of tobacco sobriety you have a 25% of ........... not smoking again. The odds are against everyone. This is a $200 billion dollar industry that is causing a cyclone of actions that deplete the poor, disease the poor, and make the rich richer. This allows you to have your cake and eat it too. It is the evolution of smoking, from fire and smoke to Lithium ion battery, atomizer, liquid cartridge, vapor. Don't believe the hype? This product frees tobacco addiction and compared to a pack cigarettes a day for a year, you save (in my currency at five dollars a pack per day is 1825) about fifteen hundred your first year and 1675 or so your second year. Plus the whole .... priceless better air and life. Sorry man but you need to actually live and understand the implications of products before you narrow minded demiss them compared to conventional cessation devices. This device is used for a lot more then cessation, it is fucking amazing recreation boy. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
On July 24 2010 16:43 waffling1 wrote: stop congratulating him he didn't quit jack. he's also getting suckered for his money. Also learn to read. I OWN THE FUCKING STORES! THAT MEANS I GET TO SMOKE MORE THEN EVERYBODY FOREVER FOR FREE OKAY GUY? Now about the whole feeling amazing and tasting food thing .... ya I love it! | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
Ive cut back, Im at about 10 a day now, so 50%... Ill take any words from the wise on how to continue easier... KUZ ITS HARD! | ||
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
My store doesn't do internet sales though ...... so maybe it isn't about money? Maybe it is about spreading the word to the 1.2 billion smokers on the planet? Maybe you should go be astounded somewhere else. This community has seen me be a father, open a store, open more stores and then buy another store and quit smoking cigarettes which has plagued me for years. Hell yes I want to share the word. Its better then religious or republican dogs sharing their crap opinions. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
Any questions about the strongest brands, on the mechanical level I'm very knowledgeable. Any questions about problems with your e-cig pm me, I'm a master at fixing the damn things. also don't buy blu if you want to quit smoking those things don't hold a charge and release a low amount of vapor. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
On July 25 2010 04:10 travis wrote: So does this end up being more or less expensive than regular cigarettes to get the normal highs you would feel from the nicotine? About 15% of the price to the well informed buyer/consumer. About 50% to the uninformed buyer/consumer. About the same to the ripped off consumer (in this game there are a lot of companies that are giving people deadly chemicals in these e-cigs, this is an unregulated industry right now, please be on your guard guys, otherwise you could end up with some E-liquid made in china, with propylene D something that is a form of anti-freeze.) The company Smoking Everywhere so far has poisoned 67,000 people in the last three years and targeted kids with their adverts. I am so happy to be on this wave, once we enter the age of Electronic Cigarette, regulation this industry will throat fuck the tobacco industry. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:48 kzn wrote: Nicotine - Wikipedia Can people stop spouting this nonsense that nicotine has no positive effects? Its a mood-altering substance, same as weed, alcohol, cocaine, meth, caffeine, and a massive list of other substances. Some people like having their mood altered, and for some people the risk smoking presents is worth it. Every decision you make in life is a cost/benefit analysis. There is no right decision in any case - there are only right decisions for an individual. Sorry but I've done a lot of drugs, cigarettes don't do anything to me, if there are any effects they're extremely, extremely, minute. Also both my father and mother are heavy heavy smokers, tried this electronic cigarette thing for awhile, both failed. I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm just disappointed because the person at the store here was sounding as enthusiastic as you are about it attackzerg, and was promising all sorts of stuff, and.... nothing. My mom still smokes a billion cigars, and my dad still smokes a billion cigarettes, both have been trying to quit for countless years now. They've spent countless dollars on patches, gum, even a help line. Sigh | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
Although its effect is not controlling or blunt. The effects are small and cherished more and more as the threads of habit begin to multiply. Eventually they have the same effect as any other drug, they turn your normal feelings inside out and make even the most honorable person, a helpless junkie. I smoke no nicotine 90% of the time because I like smoking, only in the morning-night do I need nicotine at this point! | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7581 Posts
On July 25 2010 04:33 PanN wrote: Sorry but I've done a lot of drugs, cigarettes don't do anything to me, if there are any effects they're extremely, extremely, minute. Also both my father and mother are heavy heavy smokers, tried this electronic cigarette thing for awhile, both failed. I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm just disappointed because the person at the store here was sounding as enthusiastic as you are about it attackzerg, and was promising all sorts of stuff, and.... nothing. My mom still smokes a billion cigars, and my dad still smokes a billion cigarettes, both have been trying to quit for countless years now. They've spent countless dollars on patches, gum, even a help line. Sigh My store number is 209-524-1217, my name is Gary Harris. If they have an questions on how to make the product work better for them or how to devise a program to use it to quit, I will gladly help them. | ||
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