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Stop saying "I'm rank 5 platinum".

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bodysnatcher21
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 20:40:24
May 07 2010 17:34 GMT
#1
If you want to give an indication of your skill, use your rating.

E.G I am 1400 platinum, or I am 1200 gold.

Now I am rank 1 platinum, but I'm only 1500 rating, so it's actually not that great. In one of the older divisions, 1500 rating would only get me to rank 20 or something. So for me to go around telling people I am "rank 1 platinum" would be extremely misleading.

Ratings allow you to compare people in different divisions. Rank's do not.

So yeh, if you want to give an indication of your skill level, please use your rating instead of rank!

Edit: Alot of people are saying that we should focus on the validity of someones argument, rather then their rank/rating. I actually agree with that.

What I am saying in this post is that IF you want to give an indication of your skill level, it is better to use rating instead of rank.

Whether it is a good idea to use someones rating/rank (authority) to support claims is an entirely different debate.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
May 07 2010 17:36 GMT
#2
i agree but i dont think you need to make a thread about this/
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
May 07 2010 17:36 GMT
#3
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
May 07 2010 17:36 GMT
#4
I'm rank 1 Gold in 2v2 with my friend who hasn't played SC since 2000.

Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
bodysnatcher21
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia147 Posts
May 07 2010 17:36 GMT
#5
On May 08 2010 02:36 Chill wrote:
i agree but i dont think you need to make a thread about this/


How will it ever change if people aren't aware of it?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
May 07 2010 17:38 GMT
#6
the whole ladder doesn't mean much imo, except that platinums are generally better than gold, apart from that, it's really really bad.... 150 platinum divisions lol "NICE I GOT PROMOTED TO PLAT... not"
craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
May 07 2010 17:38 GMT
#7
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.
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Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
May 07 2010 17:38 GMT
#8
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.

It is in fact the same. Since you are not playing people that are only in your division.
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
Thamoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada234 Posts
May 07 2010 17:39 GMT
#9
I agree with the OP.
wat?
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 17:39:54
May 07 2010 17:39 GMT
#10
do you even lose rating anymore? I gain over 15 every game and lose less than 5 at 1300ish

makes me think anyone who can hold like a 40% win ratio will gain points for a while..
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
May 07 2010 17:40 GMT
#11
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
grubal
Profile Joined April 2010
United States12 Posts
May 07 2010 17:41 GMT
#12
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...



This is correct. I approve.
bodysnatcher21
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia147 Posts
May 07 2010 17:42 GMT
#13
On May 08 2010 02:39 faction123 wrote:
do you even lose rating anymore? I gain over 15 every game and lose less than 5 at 1300ish


It's basically an indication that the matchmaking system expects you to be rated higher.

As you play more games, the points gained from winning will slowly decrease, and points lost from loosing will increase, until they are equal.

At that point, you are at your "true" rating.
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
May 07 2010 17:42 GMT
#14
On May 08 2010 02:39 faction123 wrote:
do you even lose rating anymore? I gain over 15 every game and lose less than 5 at 1300ish

makes me think anyone who can hold like a 40% win ratio will gain points for a while..


i pretty much +/- the same amount~10) for win/loss
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
May 07 2010 17:43 GMT
#15
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


1400 = 1400. You're not playing people in only your division so it is roughly the same. I mean some guy could hypothetically randomly get all the extremely good people, but it's honestly roughly the same.
Life is Good.
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
May 07 2010 17:43 GMT
#16
On May 08 2010 02:42 xiaofan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:39 faction123 wrote:
do you even lose rating anymore? I gain over 15 every game and lose less than 5 at 1300ish

makes me think anyone who can hold like a 40% win ratio will gain points for a while..


i pretty much +/- the same amount~10) for win/loss


good to know!
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
May 07 2010 17:44 GMT
#17
I compltely agree. Ratings are much more important. High rated gold will bhe playing a lot of plats anyways
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
May 07 2010 17:46 GMT
#18
At least in my experience I've been more closely matched up with players close to my rank than my rating.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
eugen1225
Profile Joined February 2008
Yugoslavia134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 17:50:04
May 07 2010 17:46 GMT
#19
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.


What the man said.

EDIT: Rating shows you how good you really are, rank and divisions just give you a more remote and 'ral' goal to aspire to. It's easier to gun for no1 spot in your division, and strive to achieve that, it's also a bit more 'personal', than it would be to strive for let's say 1700 rating, or trying to be top 10 when you are in spot 2000.
OptimoPeach
Profile Joined July 2009
United States137 Posts
May 07 2010 17:49 GMT
#20
I haven't been able to check my points rating since the last time my account got reset. It still says that I have 5 placement matches to do despite me being 14th or so in my division
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