EPTJaedong >>> Savior - Page 2
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zergnewb
United States816 Posts
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
What Jaedong has that makes him less Bonjwa than sAviOr, however, is that Jaedong, even in his prime, had his equals such as Flash. The sAviOr of 2006 HAD NO EQUALS. The best that sAviOr got was Midas, who choked. | ||
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FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
But we are talking about straight up statistics and accomplishments. In that respect, JD > Savior. It is undeniable. | ||
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NurseArial
Belarus109 Posts
Also, sAviOr revolutionized all zerg matchups, showed a game sense that no player had come close to, and reinvented zerg management from the ground up. Jaedong is the perfect zerg, but he hasn't brought nearly as much to the table in terms of innovation. All these "Bonjwa" threads and "MY FAVORITE PLAYER IS DA BEST" threads are getting pretty bad. They bring out the same stale arguments and it never goes anywhere. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17733 Posts
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NurseArial
Belarus109 Posts
why are people constantly talking down the old greats. I keep seeing "flash was so much better than nada lol" "jaedong > savior" "bisu > nal_ra" etc. Well, of course new players are better. Discussions about players should be kept relative to their era : / It's just ridiculous to compare a top player from now to a top player from 2006. NaDa vs sAviOr finals looks like two b-teamers playing, at least mechanically. | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:23 snowdrift86 wrote: It's about dominance, not overall titles or even skill level. Savior dominated in a way Jaedong never did. He had a 70% win rate over an eighteen month period and won more titles in a shorter span of time. He had an aura about him that JD never did. This is a strong argument. It would be very interesting to compare win rates over periods of time, I hope TL will add this option. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
Savior - 8-1 (88.9%) Other Zs - 61-101 (36.9%) Reverse Temple ZvT Savior - 6-1 (85.7%) Other Zs - 21-47 (32.9%) | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
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whathappened
United States213 Posts
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NeoOmega
United States495 Posts
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disciple
9071 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:30 NeoOmega wrote: Jaedong will also never make it tho the MSL finals in 5 consecutive seasons. thats because the bracket system 4 years ago was rigged | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:29 disciple wrote: Bisu is better than these two zerg chumps ^_^ So true | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:29 disciple wrote: Bisu is better than these two zerg chumps Agree Also, Savior's dominance relative to his peers was much greater then Jaedong's "dominance" relative to his (since he was never "dominate" compared to Bisu and Flash). | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote: there would be no jaedong without savior. This is so true. Savior's 3 gas hive build and heavy defiler usage created the modern ZvT. | ||
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theramstoss
Canada242 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:12 Bifur wrote: He is more BONJWA: he has better results than Savior in all possible meanings rofl you don't even know what bonjwa means. It means complete dominance in your era. The existence of flash makes jaedong not bonjwa and vice versa. | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:29 Hot_Bid wrote: Longinus II Savior - 8-1 (88.9%) Other Zs - 61-101 (36.9%) Reverse Temple Savior - 6-1 (85.7%) Other Zs - 21-47 (32.9%) Katrina (vsT + vsP): Jaedong - 8-2 Other Zs - 116-162 | ||
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:29 Hot_Bid wrote: Longinus II ZvT Savior - 8-1 (88.9%) Other Zs - 61-101 (36.9%) Reverse Temple ZvT Savior - 6-1 (85.7%) Other Zs - 21-47 (32.9%) This. is by far the best argument. Just look at the maps, they were made esspecially AGAINST ONE PLAYER. Give me a map ,where u would say "hey they made this map so JD wont be as dominating as of now.. " you just cant. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On April 04 2010 06:35 SkytoM wrote: This. is by far the best argument. Just look at the maps, they were made esspecially AGAINST ONE PLAYER. Give me a map ,where u would say "hey they made this map so JD wont be as dominating as of now.. " you just cant. NATE MSL Map pool says you can | ||
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