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wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
March 28 2010 15:10 GMT
#1
Now that there are a whole load of new people getting into this Starcraft community, a very signifcant number of which coming from communities such as DotA, Warcraft, Command&Conquer, etc., I'm noticing that everybody is also bringing their cultures and attitudes along with them... namely their bad attitudes.

I've been lurking here since 2003 and I know that we have our own version of trolls and whatnot... but I think that when you compare to the other communities, we're pretty tame and conservative. That's just the opinion I've gotten over the years. I could be wrong.

I'm curious to know how you guys think we should handle those bad-mannered people who come here from places like DotA and WC3 and C&C, if at all. Since there are many of them, they might socially change the way we do business here, if you know what I mean.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
March 28 2010 15:13 GMT
#2
well for once we can troll them smartly
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
March 28 2010 15:13 GMT
#3
I think http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696 will handle it properly.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
March 28 2010 15:14 GMT
#4
Worst thing by far is the retarded vocabulary people use from other games. Perhaps an autofilter or spell check or something could help that.
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
March 28 2010 15:16 GMT
#5
Oh c'mon... climb down from your ivory tower. People are people. There are jerks in every community, and the reason TL tends to be more civil is due to the strict rules and good moderation.
Those same rules apply to newcomers.
Has nothing to do with SC players being more civil than other gamers.

Well, except Xbox Live jerks... but we know none of them come here
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 15:18:22
March 28 2010 15:17 GMT
#6
I have noticed an increasing number of new posters posting... low-quality posts...
But it hasn't become anything significant enough to "socially change the way we do business here," as you put it.

On March 29 2010 00:16 muzzy wrote:
Well, except Xbox Live jerks... but we know none of them come here


Agreed :0
:)
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 15:19:46
March 28 2010 15:18 GMT
#7
On March 29 2010 00:13 Schnake wrote:
I think http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696 will handle it properly.

Yeah -- I have every confidence in our moderators and all that jazz, but we can't be sure that all of those new people will rely on this community when establishing this new StarCraft game as an eSport. They can just make their own community and develop their own culture, saying that what we have here is old and outdated.

I'm watching this GLHF.tv broadcast now, and I see nothing but trolls from WC3, CNC, and DotA doing their usual hateful criticism of the commentators and I'm just like "what the hell? this is supposed to be starcraft..." and all of a sudden, I'm the minority and a noob. I just doesn't make any sense.


edit - @synapse: Obviously it doesn't seem that way now, but I'm looking into the [relatively speaking] near-future here as the game becomes more popular, and after the beta is over and the game is finished... you see where I'm going with this thought?
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
March 28 2010 15:19 GMT
#8
Is this just an ironic troll post to make us non-sc players feel unwelcome?
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
March 28 2010 15:20 GMT
#9
If they cannot comply to TL rules, then they should just keep out.
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
March 28 2010 15:20 GMT
#10
No dude I'm not trying to troll here — I've followed TL and SC for a long time and I'm seeing these foreigners come in with their bm attitudes and I just don't want to see what we have here become what they are.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
March 28 2010 15:25 GMT
#11
I've never played sc. I've played wc3 for over 5 years and I wouldn't consider myself as being bm or ruining your community.
It's frustrating when some sc players group ALL wc3 players together to suggest we're all bad mannered and low skilled.
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
March 28 2010 15:28 GMT
#12
I'm not saying that all foreigners are bad... I don't think I ever said that here. I'm just saying that there are an awful lot of them who are bad-mannered that are outside of this community and who will, in the future at least, be trying to play bigger roles in the community that we have, at least up until this point in this almost 10-year history.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
March 28 2010 15:28 GMT
#13
On March 29 2010 00:25 Solitude wrote:
I've never played sc. I've played wc3 for over 5 years and I wouldn't consider myself as being bm or ruining your community.
It's frustrating when some sc players group ALL wc3 players together to suggest we're all bad mannered and low skilled.

Agreed.

If you want to go by stereotypes, there are a ton of bad mannered SC players as well.

Team Liquid is a good community, it has nothing to do with the game they play.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
March 28 2010 15:30 GMT
#14
Man, when did the TL community get so xenophobic? Oh noes, more FANS will destroy the purity of our race- err community!
Antipod
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada18 Posts
March 28 2010 15:35 GMT
#15
Hi I'm a wc3 player, nice to meet you!
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
March 28 2010 15:35 GMT
#16
On March 29 2010 00:30 Jyvblamo wrote:
Man, when did the TL community get so xenophobic? Oh noes, more FANS will destroy the purity of our race- err community!


lol i was just thinking that.

TL already has a huge rep for being very elitist (which is fine imo)
http://adeptguild.com/ - In the rear with the gear
Elec
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada136 Posts
March 28 2010 15:37 GMT
#17
as a long time lurker
i have to admit this thread is a little harsh.
i think we should welcome others with open arms and should they choose to stay they WILL eventually conform to our rules

that said by saying that our community in general will deteriorate is going overboard
as long as the original TLers remember their manners and are willing to show new commers how things are here

there should be no problem.

so to those who feel unwelcome please dont
Yellow Shinny VW beetle with # plate R3AV3R
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 28 2010 15:38 GMT
#18
I think these forums are very reasonably maintained - i.e. insta ban when you do something stupid
CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
March 28 2010 15:42 GMT
#19
For a game like starcraft not unreasonable to think there's a higher quality of people as it's followers. People have been playing the game for a decade so the crowd is older and it's extraordinarily hard to play game that takes a lot of effort. Not something a lot bm kids can handle. sc2 is a easier game to play and the people who aren't bw players have some questionable tastes to begin with...
your micro has been depleted
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
March 28 2010 15:51 GMT
#20
TL is gonna be like America.
A huge melting pot of many different communities.
Pretty awesome that we're gonna get a bunch more new people.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
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