• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:08
CET 20:08
KST 04:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice6Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea BW General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ It's March 3rd
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET BWCL Season 64 Announcement
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
ONE GREAT AMERICAN MARINE…
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2180 users

Hell

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
BackHo[BLACK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 21:08:15
September 03 2009 20:35 GMT
#1
Hell.

I used to believe that Hell was a place you went to after you died if you didn't go to Heaven. This was how educated I was after attending a Pentecostal Church for two years and thought I was ready to go out into the world (i.e. move out of home and go to university) and preach the Good Word as a man of God.

Unfortunately it wasn't until I went to Bible College years later did I realise how much of what I thought I knew was bullshit.

Yet today Pentecostal Churches have gotten away with this, and worse have monopolised Christianity to the point where non-Christians view Christians (and rightly so) as people who believe in an actual Hell where the Devil tortures God's lost children. This detracts from the message of Jesus, which was to look after the poor and be selfless. Christianity today and the sermons in Church are often just about getting 'saved' and so little of the teaching is of any substance. I often sit in Church and ask myself - if Jesus was up there preaching on stage, would He be saying what the pastor is talking about?

Belief in the power of language was the foundation on which rested the efficacy of blessings and curses as practiced in the OT. The nearly blind Isaac, having been tricked into blessing the wrong son, could not reverse what he had done - such was the power of the words he had uttered.
According to the story of the Tower of Babel, all humans spoke the same language Adam and Eve spoke until as an act of Divine punishment God drove them to confusion and they found themselves speaking many languages. The story implies that God had created these languages also, and then miraculously forced human tongues to speak them. This is similar to the idea of speaking in tongues as in Acts and charismatic Pentecostal Churches today.

Of course anybody who has studied anthropology or has a very basic understanding of it would be able to tell you that if you truly believe languages and culture was formed in this way then well you might as well believe Creationism over evolution.
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
September 03 2009 21:01 GMT
#2
In my opinion the splitting of hairs on this issue is pointless. I'm sure the idea of hell was based on a physical place, and proved to be an excellent tool to keep early believers in line. If you take into account how much warping christianity has gone through - even just considering the regular, unintentional biases that would arise when writing a book (the new testament) some 100 years after the subjects death and combining that with the mysticism and scientific ignorance at the time - you should realize that the idea of believing any holy book to the letter is ridiculous. They simply contain some life lessons and attitudes that you should critically evaluate and incorporate into your life as you see fit and important.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 03 2009 21:03 GMT
#3
you wrote that all in 12 minutes huh
why so 진지해?
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 03 2009 21:05 GMT
#4
On September 04 2009 06:03 Rekrul wrote:
you wrote that all in 12 minutes huh


With Rekrul on this one.

On another note, I don't know if TL is the best place to discuss this...

I could be wrong.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
BackHo[BLACK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
80 Posts
September 03 2009 21:08 GMT
#5
On September 04 2009 06:03 Rekrul wrote:
you wrote that all in 12 minutes huh


These are posts I've made on my blog previously. Not my TL blog but on a Christian forum where I am now banned from.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 21:18:18
September 03 2009 21:12 GMT
#6
Don't post so many blogs at once, please.
I left the first one one of those you posted within like 10 minutes open ("Jesus Christ"). You already made "Christian stuff again" yesterday.
Maybe come back tomorrow and post another one.
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 194
UpATreeSC 135
JuggernautJason85
MindelVK 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 30519
Shuttle 1190
Larva 635
Mini 554
EffOrt 396
Stork 300
Dewaltoss 177
firebathero 157
Sharp 136
ggaemo 133
[ Show more ]
Mong 84
Aegong 59
sSak 23
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
qojqva2279
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps4066
fl0m3991
byalli823
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King113
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor165
Other Games
Grubby3188
FrodaN1114
B2W.Neo749
Beastyqt657
ceh9443
C9.Mang0188
KnowMe115
ArmadaUGS104
mouzStarbuck83
Hui .64
Trikslyr53
capcasts37
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 5
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis11518
• TFBlade1207
• Shiphtur243
Other Games
• imaqtpie1062
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 52m
Ultimate Battle
16h 52m
Light vs ZerO
WardiTV Winter Champion…
16h 52m
MaxPax vs Spirit
Rogue vs Bunny
Cure vs SHIN
Solar vs Zoun
OSC
22h 52m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-04
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.