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BackHo[BLACK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
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Last Edited: 2009-09-03 21:08:15
September 03 2009 20:35 GMT
#1
Hell.

I used to believe that Hell was a place you went to after you died if you didn't go to Heaven. This was how educated I was after attending a Pentecostal Church for two years and thought I was ready to go out into the world (i.e. move out of home and go to university) and preach the Good Word as a man of God.

Unfortunately it wasn't until I went to Bible College years later did I realise how much of what I thought I knew was bullshit.

Yet today Pentecostal Churches have gotten away with this, and worse have monopolised Christianity to the point where non-Christians view Christians (and rightly so) as people who believe in an actual Hell where the Devil tortures God's lost children. This detracts from the message of Jesus, which was to look after the poor and be selfless. Christianity today and the sermons in Church are often just about getting 'saved' and so little of the teaching is of any substance. I often sit in Church and ask myself - if Jesus was up there preaching on stage, would He be saying what the pastor is talking about?

Belief in the power of language was the foundation on which rested the efficacy of blessings and curses as practiced in the OT. The nearly blind Isaac, having been tricked into blessing the wrong son, could not reverse what he had done - such was the power of the words he had uttered.
According to the story of the Tower of Babel, all humans spoke the same language Adam and Eve spoke until as an act of Divine punishment God drove them to confusion and they found themselves speaking many languages. The story implies that God had created these languages also, and then miraculously forced human tongues to speak them. This is similar to the idea of speaking in tongues as in Acts and charismatic Pentecostal Churches today.

Of course anybody who has studied anthropology or has a very basic understanding of it would be able to tell you that if you truly believe languages and culture was formed in this way then well you might as well believe Creationism over evolution.
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
September 03 2009 21:01 GMT
#2
In my opinion the splitting of hairs on this issue is pointless. I'm sure the idea of hell was based on a physical place, and proved to be an excellent tool to keep early believers in line. If you take into account how much warping christianity has gone through - even just considering the regular, unintentional biases that would arise when writing a book (the new testament) some 100 years after the subjects death and combining that with the mysticism and scientific ignorance at the time - you should realize that the idea of believing any holy book to the letter is ridiculous. They simply contain some life lessons and attitudes that you should critically evaluate and incorporate into your life as you see fit and important.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 03 2009 21:03 GMT
#3
you wrote that all in 12 minutes huh
why so 진지해?
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 03 2009 21:05 GMT
#4
On September 04 2009 06:03 Rekrul wrote:
you wrote that all in 12 minutes huh


With Rekrul on this one.

On another note, I don't know if TL is the best place to discuss this...

I could be wrong.
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BackHo[BLACK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
80 Posts
September 03 2009 21:08 GMT
#5
On September 04 2009 06:03 Rekrul wrote:
you wrote that all in 12 minutes huh


These are posts I've made on my blog previously. Not my TL blog but on a Christian forum where I am now banned from.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 21:18:18
September 03 2009 21:12 GMT
#6
Don't post so many blogs at once, please.
I left the first one one of those you posted within like 10 minutes open ("Jesus Christ"). You already made "Christian stuff again" yesterday.
Maybe come back tomorrow and post another one.
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