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ForTenPoints
Profile Joined February 2009
United States140 Posts
August 14 2009 11:38 GMT
#1721
On August 14 2009 20:35 levelzx wrote:
I'm only asking myself: why some pro maps like the 4th one have these gay, almost unwallable chokes? And bad that SC always sends out your freshly spawned units at bottom-left of your factories.

Anyway, congrats to Jaedong. Set 2 was a good game from him.


Because it's hard to make a map where all 4 allows you to wall with correct spawn....since the map has to be symmetrical in some way.

This happens all the time...differences in bases are just part of the game....like weather in football or baseball affecting the game.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 14 2009 11:38 GMT
#1722
On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here

how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!!

please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in

THANK YOU!!!

I was wondering when something like this would happen
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 14 2009 11:38 GMT
#1723
On August 14 2009 20:37 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here

how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!!

please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in


Pay attention Shikyo


calling people out like this will also be bannable

20 more posts and this rule is in effect
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 14 2009 11:38 GMT
#1724
On August 14 2009 20:36 ShaperofDreams wrote:
People who say the last two games sucked, or the ZvZ matchup sucks, should go play DOTA because they have 0 understanding of SC.

the last game did suck
and many people (including myself) think zvz sucks

why do i have 0 understanding of sc
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 14 2009 11:38 GMT
#1725
On August 14 2009 20:36 ShaperofDreams wrote:
People who say the last two games sucked, or the ZvZ matchup sucks, should go play DOTA because they have 0 understanding of SC.


Are you kidding me? Fantasy had the game won vs the 4pool but was like "HEY IM SO COOL IM NOT GONNA DEFEND MY BUNKER!!! LOL I LET U WIN JAEDONG!"

I would fucking win that game if I played zerg.

Lim Yo Hwan forever!
jinwoooooooo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States176 Posts
August 14 2009 11:38 GMT
#1726
On August 14 2009 20:36 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:35 jinwoooooooo wrote:
On August 14 2009 20:34 ReTrooper wrote:
Post game interview!

Jaedong: "In the first two games, I could not play as good as I planned to. My multitasking didn't work out too well and I lost the momentum several times. So I decided on very aggressive play in the next games. The reason I could not play at 100% was definitely my old mouse, and I think I should get a new one soon."

Why Jaedong has been losing his recent games:

he got a new mouse


He never said he got a new one?

You're right, my mistake
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1727
On August 14 2009 20:38 DIMJkE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here

how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!!

please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in


Also, Steve, why do you think he played like a retard? What could he have done better. Im not critising you, just wondering how he could have tried to defend better in a 4-pool situation.


he could have had two scvs next to the bunker ready to repair in case they came in. he would have only had to hold the defense till the vulture(s) came out
manner
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66360 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1728
WHAT

THE

FUCK

I GET HOME AND I SEE THIS

FUCK

FML
POGGERS
darod2007
Profile Joined January 2009
United States43 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1729
On August 14 2009 20:38 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:36 ShaperofDreams wrote:
People who say the last two games sucked, or the ZvZ matchup sucks, should go play DOTA because they have 0 understanding of SC.


Are you kidding me? Fantasy had the game won vs the 4pool but was like "HEY IM SO COOL IM NOT GONNA DEFEND MY BUNKER!!! LOL I LET U WIN JAEDONG!"

I would fucking win that game if I played zerg.



Sorry but no.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1730
On August 14 2009 20:39 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:38 DIMJkE wrote:
On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here

how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!!

please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in


Also, Steve, why do you think he played like a retard? What could he have done better. Im not critising you, just wondering how he could have tried to defend better in a 4-pool situation.


he could have had two scvs next to the bunker ready to repair in case they came in. he would have only had to hold the defense till the vulture(s) came out


Exactly, read my post above for more details.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Alsar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States130 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1731
On August 14 2009 20:34 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:31 toopham wrote:
I Dont get why you guys hating on the games not showing Skills.

The first 2 games were Epic. Action non-stop.
You have to understand the history between jaedong and fantasy to know why he decided to 4 pool on the 3rd game. And Fantasy defended off the 4 pool so it was his fault he lost his bunker.
REVENGE! and 4th game that was just smart of Jaedong.

GG


whats smart gambling on a 1/3 chance stuff spawns outside his main...
was just stupid of fantasy/lucky for jd -_-
anyway only saw game 3/4 and they both sucked T_T
not my lucky day -_-


The thing is Jaedong opened with a completely standard build and was going to transition just fine into a regular build if his early lings didn't do much. Once he saw fantasy's position and the fact that he could do what he did, he instead decided to pump lings and keep the pressure on rather than just cutting ling production and continuing on with his regular build.





Also at all the jaedong hate: lol, how does the cheese taste from the other side now ^_____^
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1732
On August 14 2009 20:39 darod2007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:38 Zoler wrote:
On August 14 2009 20:36 ShaperofDreams wrote:
People who say the last two games sucked, or the ZvZ matchup sucks, should go play DOTA because they have 0 understanding of SC.


Are you kidding me? Fantasy had the game won vs the 4pool but was like "HEY IM SO COOL IM NOT GONNA DEFEND MY BUNKER!!! LOL I LET U WIN JAEDONG!"

I would fucking win that game if I played zerg.



Sorry but no.


but yes.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13077 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1733
great series i think 3rd game with the 4 pool was so great i cant beleive how it turned out just crazy
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2241 Posts
August 14 2009 11:39 GMT
#1734
On August 14 2009 20:38 DIMJkE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here

how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!!

please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in


Also, Steve, why do you think he played like a retard? What could he have done better. Im not critising you, just wondering how he could have tried to defend better in a 4-pool situation.
he had already defende it, all he had to do was to play it safe, put marines in buker and repair in time
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 11:41:17
August 14 2009 11:40 GMT
#1735
On August 14 2009 20:38 DIMJkE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here

how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!!

please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in


Also, Steve, why do you think he played like a retard? What could he have done better. Im not critising you, just wondering how he could have tried to defend better in a 4-pool situation.


I mean choosing to wall like that despite his starting location on ROTK. that's a bad decision, you can't prepare a build that will outright die 75% of the time to a 9pool and expect to win an OSL semifinal is all

and yeah i have come to expect better snap reactions from fantasy than he showed against the second wave of that 4pool. lifting the command center should have been an automatic reaction after the first instance of what should have been an automatic reaction (more lings come = get to the bunker) failed to happen
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
August 14 2009 11:40 GMT
#1736
zvz rules wtf are you guys talking about. its actionpacked even before the games start. its mindblowing!
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 14 2009 11:40 GMT
#1737
4 pool takes balls to use since often it fucks up and most people can defend it easily

but the way fantasy just lets his bunker get taken out like that after a successful defend...argaoihggar
a
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 14 2009 11:40 GMT
#1738
On August 14 2009 20:39 Alsar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 20:34 Kaolla wrote:
On August 14 2009 20:31 toopham wrote:
I Dont get why you guys hating on the games not showing Skills.

The first 2 games were Epic. Action non-stop.
You have to understand the history between jaedong and fantasy to know why he decided to 4 pool on the 3rd game. And Fantasy defended off the 4 pool so it was his fault he lost his bunker.
REVENGE! and 4th game that was just smart of Jaedong.

GG


whats smart gambling on a 1/3 chance stuff spawns outside his main...
was just stupid of fantasy/lucky for jd -_-
anyway only saw game 3/4 and they both sucked T_T
not my lucky day -_-


The thing is Jaedong opened with a completely standard build and was going to transition just fine into a regular build if his early lings didn't do much. Once he saw fantasy's position and the fact that he could do what he did, he instead decided to pump lings and keep the pressure on rather than just cutting ling production and continuing on with his regular build.







Also at all the jaedong hate: lol, how does the cheese taste from the other side now ^_____^


When the fuck did fantasy cheese jaedong
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 11:41:11
August 14 2009 11:40 GMT
#1739
On August 14 2009 20:39 konadora wrote:
WHAT

THE

FUCK

I GET HOME AND I SEE THIS

FUCK

FML

Welcome to the club. We're holding a mass suicid attempt next week. You in?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 14 2009 11:40 GMT
#1740
The Jaedong formula.

1. Get raped
2. Win barely
3. 4pool
4. Rape
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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