EPTi guess this isn't the first but now all i can do is hope for yarnc to win -_-
so boring!!!!!! good luck to iris though, i always felt that guy deserved something
[MSL] QuarterFinals Day 3 - Page 69
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
i guess this isn't the first but now all i can do is hope for yarnc to win -_- so boring!!!!!! good luck to iris though, i always felt that guy deserved something | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10910 Posts
Rule 1: Bisu doesn't cheese ever, he uses smart, aggressive and well thought out builds. Don't you dare to call him cheesy or prepare for a shitstorm. Rule two: If he gets attacked by a *smart, aggressive and well thought out built. His enemy is most probably a cheesy bastard that is afraid of a *normal* game against the REVOLUTIONIST!!!1111 Really, it's fucking annoying.. Imagine if Iris (or anyone else except Jaedong) would have won this series by cheesing Bisu 3 times... The Shitstorm would be unbearable... I have absolutely nothing against cheesy play. In fact I think there should be more cheese in pro Brood War, it keeps the game *fresh* and unpredictable. The best games only take place when someone cheeses (just look at the last game of this series). BUT things like: Proxy gate, Proxy-DT-Rush and Proxy-Robo are cheese. I don't see why so many people feel to urge to go berserk if someone actually calls them cheese. Btw: Agressive plays in PvT would be things like 10/15... | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
1/2 LB today. Back in top 10 though  | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:33 konadora wrote: I just got 0/4 for the MSL wow Hahaha. I'd like to see what your curse does to your LB by the end of the season | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 04 2009 23:06 Carnac wrote: We will just have to agree to disagree. There's very little I consider cheese and most people (not talking about you) only use that term to whine anyway. It doesn't really matter what you consider cheese. I call them aggressive rush builds when I want to talk about them positively and cheese when I talk about them negatively. It means the same thing, and everyone can flavor their way of talking as they want. If I had said that Bisu only seemed to be able to win with aggressive rush builds, I'm sure someone would have said that he used mindgames and maps or something similiar. Even if I call them cheese, you know what I mean. What's the problem? | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
Really sucks that my least favorite matchup is ZvZ. And Bo5 ZvZs are just not that interesting. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 05 2009 00:02 SkelA wrote: Really Bisu didnt deserve to win this series he played really bad.... game 3 was horible play from him on carthage suiciding his units like they were lings and game 5 was just bad scouting from him losing cuz of ninja expo and just great play by iris overall I don't get what ninja expo Iris supposedly had? the 3 o'clock expo seemed like completely standard to me and Bisu even saw the tanks down there when he first attacked Iris's third. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On August 04 2009 20:30 Dice84 wrote: Bisu fails. JD prevails. Hahaha, best post in the thread! | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:43 Kyo Yuy wrote: That's the thing. People would've flamed Bisu no matter how he played. Whether he won or lost, whether he played standard or cheesed, whether he went 1gate tech to reaver or 2 Gate Powergoon. The BEST case scenario is people crying "protoss imba." And that's the BEST case. He's Bisu, he gets flamed for saying "I'm confident" whereas Jaedong gets worshipped when he says I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS WEEK JAEDONG WEEK YOU GUYS. Quoted because this is so true. Not to say that Bisu hasn't built up that image of arrogance from his own actions, but IMO Bisu gets a lot of scorn that other progamers don't get for similar things. I'm rather disappointed by Bisu's play, but at the same time, I have to commend Iris. His individual league performance seems to be shaking out quite well. Now I'm really looking forward to watching GOM finals. Obligatory: Perfectman > Iris > Bisu | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
game 5 of Bisu vs Iris was fucking sick. Iris produces the most entertaining bo5 series.. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
maybe bisu needed to cheese a bit more on the last game 2 gate proxy into proxy robo. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:43 Kyo Yuy wrote: That's the thing. People would've flamed Bisu no matter how he played. Whether he won or lost, whether he played standard or cheesed, whether he went 1gate tech to reaver or 2 Gate Powergoon. The BEST case scenario is people crying "protoss imba." And that's the BEST case. He's Bisu, he gets flamed for saying "I'm confident" whereas Jaedong gets worshipped when he says I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS WEEK JAEDONG WEEK YOU GUYS. I think you are severely overestimating the number of people that flame Bisu no matter how he plays. There are plenty of times where Bisu is praised for his great play and management but tonight he deserved no such praise. The only games he won were from cheese. As it has been stated before if any other player had done they would be flamed to high heaven just as Bisu is right now. Iris was truly the better player in this series. And yeah, if Bisu acts all confident and what not then proceeds to only be able to win through cheese, he's going to get flamed for that. JD went into the week practicing harder than any of his opponents and was able to follow through on his promise. Worship granted. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10910 Posts
Quoted because this is so true. Not to say that Bisu hasn't built up that image of arrogance from his own actions, but IMO Bisu gets a lot of scorn that other progamers don't get for similar things. About the same as Jaedong/Flash get/have gotten... And probably about the same as every *BIG* player has gotten in the past. Btw: The last time Jaedong cheesed was that failed 5 pool against Skyhigh? Thing is: Today he looked not like S-Class... He looked like a good/decent protoss player with layed out gameplans/cheeses for every map that couldn't whitstand Iris *S-Class* mechanics even thou his cheeses were succsesful .Really, the Irony is what makes this so fun ^^. And some dudes saying that it wasn't cheese but *aggresive play*... And i still don't want to imagine what would get on in this treadh if iris would have just cheesed Bisu 2-3 times and won with it... Things like: "Iris stole our dream final" would probably be the *moderate* comments... | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
I was a bit hoping it would come down to a JD vs Bisu final because it would've been epic, and for JD to beat Bisu in the finals for an MSL would pretty much cement a certain term thrown around here. Still, it's not JD's fault Bisu can't cut it. Long live the king. | ||
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