EPTPerfectman > Iris > Bisu
Therefore, Perfectman > Bisu. T1's fucked on Day 2.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Perfectman > Iris > Bisu Therefore, Perfectman > Bisu. T1's fucked on Day 2. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
fuck people really need to listen to me | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:01 NovaTheFeared wrote: If sending out your 5th probe for a proxy gate isn't cheese I want to know what is. Cheese is when people other then Bisu do it. Lol, of course Bisu cheesed the hell out of Berzerker. He cheesed the hell out of Fantasy in one match too. I think that Bisu is currently weak on the self confidence department, that's why he is depending on cheese to carry his game on. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:01 NovaTheFeared wrote: If sending out your 5th probe for a proxy gate isn't cheese I want to know what is. I guess that the SKT / Bisu / Protoss fans believe that the only cheese Protoss has is proxy 8/8 gate into DTs. Unless Bisu is doing it. :/ | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
THE FUCK | ||
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G3CKO
Canada1430 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:05 Shikyo wrote: I'm not a big fan of Bisu :<I guess that the SKT / Bisu / Protoss fans believe that the only cheese Protoss has is proxy 8/8 gate into DTs. Unless Bisu is doing it. :/ I call it working the map / the opponent. If Bisu had played sth. that would have lost him the game vs Iris' 2 Fac build on Outsider people would have said he can't adapt. Instead he played a good counter and even if he hadn't won the game with it right away it woudn't have put him behind really. Proxying a gate for early pressure makes sense on Heartbreak and it's not like it's the first time we've seen this. Terran going 8 Proxy Rax into Mech (TvT/TvZ) isn't cheese either, it's just an aggressive approach from which you can work well. That aside this is much more interesting than seeing bo5s during which Protoss goes 2 Gate Goon Obs / 2 Gate Goon Nexus, Terran goes 1 Fac CC every god damn game | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
wow | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:33 NovaTheFeared wrote: From now on all cheese will be referred to as "working the map". maybe you should read the rest of what I wrote as well | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:35 Carnac wrote: maybe you should read the rest of what I wrote as well I read it, Carnac. And I frequently use the same kind of proxy gate attacks on 2 player maps, but I don't pretend they're anything but pure stinking cheese. EDIT: This may help clarify: Poll: Proxy gate with 5th probe cheese? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:37 NovaTheFeared wrote: EDIT: This may help clarify: i see that you underestimate the amount of bisu fanboys on this forum! | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:31 Carnac wrote: If Bisu had ... people would have said he can't adapt. That's the thing. People would've flamed Bisu no matter how he played. Whether he won or lost, whether he played standard or cheesed, whether he went 1gate tech to reaver or 2 Gate Powergoon. The BEST case scenario is people crying "protoss imba." And that's the BEST case. He's Bisu, he gets flamed for saying "I'm confident" whereas Jaedong gets worshipped when he says I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS WEEK JAEDONG WEEK YOU GUYS. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 04 2009 22:31 Carnac wrote: I'm not a big fan of Bisu :< I call it working the map / the opponent. If Bisu had played sth. that would have lost him the game vs Iris' 2 Fac build on Outsider people would have said he can't adapt. Instead he played a good counter and even if he hadn't won the game with it right away it woudn't have put him behind really. Proxying a gate for early pressure makes sense on Heartbreak and it's not like it's the first time we've seen this. Terran going 8 Proxy Rax into Mech (TvT/TvZ) isn't cheese either, it's just an aggressive approach from which you can work well. That aside this is much more interesting than seeing bo5s during which Protoss goes 2 Gate Goon Obs / 2 Gate Goon Nexus, Terran goes 1 Fac CC every god damn game You missed my point altogether. Although it is cheese, I don't fault Bisu for cheesing. But if he can only win by cheesing, I do believe that he's not that good of a player anymore. Sure he can work his opponent all he can, but apparently that's the only way he can win. | ||
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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United States4324 Posts
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