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[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 1 - Page 11

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KingPants
Profile Joined December 2008
United States54 Posts
July 31 2009 18:34 GMT
#201
Apparently a team does not have depth if the "depth" plays poorly every once in a while, I love these forums.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 19:34:45
July 31 2009 19:04 GMT
#202
Apparently that said team cannot abstain from mentioning said depth no matter what happens.
I only like these forums. =/
Jaedong
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
July 31 2009 19:32 GMT
#203
On August 01 2009 01:43 Severedevil wrote:
Hwaseung has to win, so that the playoffs can come down to a Bisu vs. Jaedong super ace.


this is the only reason i want oz to win
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
July 31 2009 19:43 GMT
#204
Wow, already 11 pages and the game hasn't even started yet. Is this a new record or something o_0.
^______________^
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
July 31 2009 20:47 GMT
#205
LETS GO CJ

RALLY
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 31 2009 20:56 GMT
#206
On July 31 2009 04:02 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, but we never said it did. It's just very funny how nothing can get CJ off their high "we're so depthy" laurels.

Oh hey come on, I'm almost as big of a hwaseung fan. Well I don't think that was necessarily directed at me, but I can admit that CJ lacks a decent Protoss, although they do have decent Z/T lineups. Hwaseung just happens to, sadly... have only one player with some kind of individual value(Maybe BackHo but...). CJ still has Iris, Effort and even Kwanro(might add Skyhigh and Savior even) who are able to advance in leagues.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 21:00:25
July 31 2009 20:58 GMT
#207
No, I shouldn't generalize all CJ fans, but there's a lot of them who always show off CJ's depth. The main peeve is that people expect depth to translate automatically to a win in a Bo7 and will find a scapegoat if this does not happen. A Bo11 would actually be better for a more deep team.
Another peeve is that they are never quiet about the depth, even after the dismal performance against Khan.
Jaedong
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
July 31 2009 21:09 GMT
#208
On August 01 2009 05:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 04:02 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, but we never said it did. It's just very funny how nothing can get CJ off their high "we're so depthy" laurels.

Oh hey come on, I'm almost as big of a hwaseung fan. Well I don't think that was necessarily directed at me, but I can admit that CJ lacks a decent Protoss, although they do have decent Z/T lineups. Hwaseung just happens to, sadly... have only one player with some kind of individual value(Maybe BackHo but...). CJ still has Iris, Effort and even Kwanro(might add Skyhigh and Savior even) who are able to advance in leagues.

Back when Hiya was posting results they had him. He used to be a really solid player.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 31 2009 21:18 GMT
#209
On August 01 2009 06:09 Dgtl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 05:56 Shikyo wrote:
On July 31 2009 04:02 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, but we never said it did. It's just very funny how nothing can get CJ off their high "we're so depthy" laurels.

Oh hey come on, I'm almost as big of a hwaseung fan. Well I don't think that was necessarily directed at me, but I can admit that CJ lacks a decent Protoss, although they do have decent Z/T lineups. Hwaseung just happens to, sadly... have only one player with some kind of individual value(Maybe BackHo but...). CJ still has Iris, Effort and even Kwanro(might add Skyhigh and Savior even) who are able to advance in leagues.

Back when Hiya was posting results they had him. He used to be a really solid player.

Yeah. And Lomo, BackHo even, ForGG... They really need some new blood.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
qaswedfr25
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States212 Posts
July 31 2009 21:21 GMT
#210
Where's my Hwaseung House Comic?
vaMpYr
Profile Joined July 2009
France119 Posts
July 31 2009 21:42 GMT
#211
OZ is so gonna win this .. i think we can all talk in 8/9 hours now ^^
jaedong > flash in OSLs ; jaedong > flash in MSLs ; jaedong > flash in WCGs ; jaedong > flash in proleagues . what else ? NESPRESSO ( old quote =( )
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
July 31 2009 21:52 GMT
#212
CJ has the advantage tonight, but it's going to game 6 either way. If OZ can pull a win that isn't JvZ or BackHo vs Noob, then they win it outright (JvZ in ace/super-ace).
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 21:53:51
July 31 2009 21:53 GMT
#213
I'm going to hide under the desk at my school's computer lab when the security guard comes in to close it so that I can watch this live.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
July 31 2009 21:57 GMT
#214
Oz will win 4:1 with Jaedong taking the only loss.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8150 Posts
July 31 2009 22:04 GMT
#215
if it goes to ace i'm predicting effort wont be used.
Free Palestine
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 22:09:21
July 31 2009 22:06 GMT
#216
I know it's possible but it's so grinding that everyone overpredicts for CJ. Yes you have the best team (Well I'd like to say STX is similarly deep but with no super strong ace) but no, you didn't 4-0 Khan. You actually got 4-3'd. =\ I think people chastizing those predicting upsets really need to get some crow pie, CJ's been playing constantly since the start, whereas Lomo has probably been preparing entirely for a TvT snipe for awhile (go figure they're playing Skyhigh on Destination).

Similar points go on, but I'm with Avid and not for any love of Oz. Be stoic in your superiority, emulate CJ! :3
Remember Violet.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 22:12:51
July 31 2009 22:12 GMT
#217
I think this match is going to hinge on Hiya. If he does well, OZ wins. If he doesn't, OZ loses.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 31 2009 22:21 GMT
#218
On August 01 2009 05:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, I shouldn't generalize all CJ fans, but there's a lot of them who always show off CJ's depth. The main peeve is that people expect depth to translate automatically to a win in a Bo7 and will find a scapegoat if this does not happen. A Bo11 would actually be better for a more deep team.
Another peeve is that they are never quiet about the depth, even after the dismal performance against Khan.


Ignore the morons. I think it's safe to say CJ is heavily favored because unlike Khan Oz doesn't have enough superstar level players. Oz has Jeadong, Khan had Jangbi, Stork and even a once semi-dominant FBH. CJ is a team that is good on paper against a team like Oz because 1 player just can't take down 4 S/A level players that ALL can beat him.

However like I said before this isn't as easy as it looks because Oz has 2 great matchups on their side (Jaedong, Backho) and really need 1 win to force an Ace. It's just getting that one win looks so damn hard when you've got Kwanro, Iris and Skyhigh as the enemies.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 31 2009 22:31 GMT
#219
I think Oz would have a much better chance if Hiya was used in a TvT. Gonna be good games, CJ should clinch this opportunity

CJ hwaiting!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 31 2009 22:47 GMT
#220
Wait, Oz would have a better chance if Hiya played his weakest match up instead of his strongest?
Remember Violet.
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