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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 19 2009 06:17 GMT
#521
On July 19 2009 15:15 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:13 Nitan wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:07 Itachii wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:06 TheWD wrote:
And that's what you get for getting cutesy

Epic Game

epic my ass.
stork played solid pvz, zerg gave it away

no that was epic
i have never seen a bigger pvz comeback

p was FUCKED in every way


Best vs. Luxury OSL semis?

which game?


Hmm...which one had Best lose a nexus a few minutes in and still win?
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
July 19 2009 06:18 GMT
#522
On July 19 2009 15:11 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:08 BisuBoi wrote:
On July 19 2009 14:47 darktreb wrote:
Hahahahahahahahaha Stork SUCKS at PvZ! Nobody can ever convince me otherwise.


Who's this genius?


What? One of the most blown games of the year means Stork doesn't suck at PvZ? No elite Protoss has ever managed to have their Cannon line broken or been contained at their natural with the regularity that Stork has. Just watch when Stork played Kwanro 4 games in a row (3 in MSL, 1 in PL) and Kwanro kills Stork's natural Cannons in ALL FOUR GAMES! Of course Stork still won two of them ... dude has a knack for making comical comebacks against bad late game Zergs.



Stork seems to have an extreme confidence in his probe micro, which is probably why he skimps on cannons so frequently.

He also seems to prefer a late management game above any kind of mid game plays.
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
July 19 2009 06:18 GMT
#523
On July 19 2009 15:15 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:13 Nitan wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:07 Itachii wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:06 TheWD wrote:
And that's what you get for getting cutesy

Epic Game

epic my ass.
stork played solid pvz, zerg gave it away

no that was epic
i have never seen a bigger pvz comeback

p was FUCKED in every way


Best vs. Luxury OSL semis?

which game?


Probably the one where Luxury destroyed Best's geyers on Katrina and Best shuttled out a control group of zealots to win the game... eventually winning the series.
Juringo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany12 Posts
July 19 2009 06:18 GMT
#524
On July 19 2009 15:15 Live2Win wrote:
It wasn't that much of a huge comeback. Stork was so far ahead in upgrades with his early dual-forge, he never really lost his main units. Modesty just wasted all his gas on guardians instead of ultralisks, and then lost like 6 lurkers to 1 dt, and stork took the small opening Modesty showed and just blew him apart. Stork did exactly what he needed to do, keep the main army advantage, prevent island expansions, aerial dominance when Z goes hive tech, keep ahead in upgrades and continue to rebuild his expansion at 5.


Said all !
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 19 2009 06:18 GMT
#525
On July 19 2009 15:16 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:07 Itachii wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:06 TheWD wrote:
And that's what you get for getting cutesy

Epic Game

epic my ass.
stork played solid pvz, zerg gave it away

no that was epic
i have never seen a bigger pvz comeback

p was FUCKED in every way


you must admit it wasnt as much as stork playing good but modesty totally pissing away all his advantage on guardians/devours and like 6 extra hatcheries and 4+ failed expos.

seriously if modesty just teched straight to ultras instead of all the greater spire crap he coulda crushed stork shortly after 3oclock came online.

he clearly went for a stylish end and fucked up bigtime.

yeah of course modesty blew it haha. comebacks can't really happen unless the opponent makes mistakes. i was a little too excited because i just completely assumed a 0-4 loss
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
July 19 2009 06:18 GMT
#526
On July 19 2009 15:18 zgl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:15 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:13 Nitan wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:07 Itachii wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:06 TheWD wrote:
And that's what you get for getting cutesy

Epic Game

epic my ass.
stork played solid pvz, zerg gave it away

no that was epic
i have never seen a bigger pvz comeback

p was FUCKED in every way


Best vs. Luxury OSL semis?

which game?


Probably the one where Luxury destroyed Best's geyers on Katrina and Best shuttled out a control group of zealots to win the game... eventually winning the series.


ah, the days before best sucked balls at PvZ.
Free Palestine
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 19 2009 06:18 GMT
#527
On July 19 2009 15:15 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:11 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 BisuBoi wrote:
On July 19 2009 14:47 darktreb wrote:
Hahahahahahahahaha Stork SUCKS at PvZ! Nobody can ever convince me otherwise.


Who's this genius?


What? One of the most blown games of the year means Stork doesn't suck at PvZ? No elite Protoss has ever managed to have their Cannon line broken or been contained at their natural with the regularity that Stork has. Just watch when Stork played Kwanro 4 games in a row (3 in MSL, 1 in PL) and Kwanro kills Stork's natural Cannons in ALL FOUR GAMES! Of course Stork still won two of them ... dude has a knack for making comical comebacks against bad late game Zergs.

ever think that maybe theres a reason he has 'a knack for making comebacks'?
he cuts it as close as possible early game for the biggest economical lead he can get, of course that costs him early game sometimes, but it also sets him up really really well for later in the game, meaning that ya he gets cannon busted more often then others, but he also has a much stronger mid game than others. and considering how good his macro and big army control are its a really smart tradeoff to make.
people need to stop analyzing things they dont understand.

<3 Idra
shouldn't you be cheering your team now though?! :O
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 19 2009 06:19 GMT
#528
On July 19 2009 15:13 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:11 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 BisuBoi wrote:
On July 19 2009 14:47 darktreb wrote:
Hahahahahahahahaha Stork SUCKS at PvZ! Nobody can ever convince me otherwise.


Who's this genius?


What? One of the most blown games of the year means Stork doesn't suck at PvZ? No elite Protoss has ever managed to have their Cannon line broken or been contained at their natural with the regularity that Stork has. Just watch when Stork played Kwanro 4 games in a row (3 in MSL, 1 in PL) and Kwanro kills Stork's natural Cannons in ALL FOUR GAMES! Of course Stork still won two of them ... dude has a knack for making comical comebacks against bad late game Zergs.

sigh
can you just please go back to your CJ thread?

it pisses me off so much when credit isn't given where it's due. especially in such a great comeback/game as the last game. a lot of tosses lose to all ins all the time, it's not just stork. you have to give him a lot of credit for not giving up when the team is 0-3. protoss looked fucked in every way possible.


Ok, ok. Stork deserves a TON of credit for playing beautifully after such a horrible opening. I love the guy and consider him one of the top 3 Protoss players of all time. He's always been a resilient PvZ player (backhanded compliment there) and I just find it funny that he manages to get into bad situations in PvZ with such regularity.

But yes, he played great after the opening, and his lategame PvZ has always been very good. It has admittedly been overshadowed by his comical early game PvZ.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 19 2009 06:19 GMT
#529
On July 19 2009 15:18 zgl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:15 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:13 Nitan wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:07 Itachii wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:06 TheWD wrote:
And that's what you get for getting cutesy

Epic Game

epic my ass.
stork played solid pvz, zerg gave it away

no that was epic
i have never seen a bigger pvz comeback

p was FUCKED in every way


Best vs. Luxury OSL semis?

which game?


Probably the one where Luxury destroyed Best's geyers on Katrina and Best shuttled out a control group of zealots to win the game... eventually winning the series.


I think he means the othello game where lux had like 6 speedlings in best's base.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 06:20:43
July 19 2009 06:19 GMT
#530
modesty if khan somehow takes this to ace match and we lose it and I personally blame you for it and will go to korea and fucking kill you


even though it's fucking hilarious that you went for that and and it fucked you in the ass big time lol
Free Palestine
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
July 19 2009 06:20 GMT
#531
comebacks dont happen unless the other player sticks in there long enuf and plays well enuf to make the opponent make mistakes. That transition to guardians was stupid, but realize stork did storm harass and play on multiple fronts to create opportunities.

and god those storms musta killed about 60+ lings.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 19 2009 06:21 GMT
#532
On July 19 2009 15:18 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:16 Ideas wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:07 Itachii wrote:
On July 19 2009 15:06 TheWD wrote:
And that's what you get for getting cutesy

Epic Game

epic my ass.
stork played solid pvz, zerg gave it away

no that was epic
i have never seen a bigger pvz comeback

p was FUCKED in every way


you must admit it wasnt as much as stork playing good but modesty totally pissing away all his advantage on guardians/devours and like 6 extra hatcheries and 4+ failed expos.

seriously if modesty just teched straight to ultras instead of all the greater spire crap he coulda crushed stork shortly after 3oclock came online.

he clearly went for a stylish end and fucked up bigtime.

yeah of course modesty blew it haha. comebacks can't really happen unless the opponent makes mistakes. i was a little too excited because i just completely assumed a 0-4 loss

But his mistakes were egregious. Stork obviously needed to play good to win from that position, but it wasn't really mind-boggling the way he payed. Obviously the game was, but that was only because Modesty is really bad for some reason. Or inconsistent. I don't think people would care so much if Modesty still played competently and Stork just suddenly was everywhere, multitasking like crazy.
Arf
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
July 19 2009 06:21 GMT
#533
People have a perception that if zerg contains protoss and makes 5 new bases, this means zerg is in the lead. This is not the case at all. Stork was never really behind in any point in the game. But I'm not complaining, this false sense of "comebacks" in Stork's games just makes it more epic!
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#534
How come IdrA is online when CJ has a match today? @_@
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#535
On July 19 2009 15:21 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
People have a perception that if zerg contains protoss and makes 5 new bases, this means zerg is in the lead. This is not the case at all.


Yes it is. If July was playing that game we would have seen 20 Ultras at one point and it would have been over.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#536
On July 19 2009 15:21 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
People have a perception that if zerg contains protoss and makes 5 new bases, this means zerg is in the lead. This is not the case at all.


...wut?
TranslatorBaa!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#537
hey jangbi dont die to some cheese PLEASE
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#538
I'm 100% certain it wasn't that modesty is bad it's just that he was fucking cocky as shit
Free Palestine
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#539
stork doesnt suck at PvZ, that is a massive exxaggeration. He is 53%, thats 6% above protoss's average vs zerg (ZvP = 53ish%). Obviously his PvP and PvT are MUCH better, and his PvZ is not s-class, but it does not suck!
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
July 19 2009 06:22 GMT
#540
On July 19 2009 15:21 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
People have a perception that if zerg contains protoss and makes 5 new bases, this means zerg is in the lead. This is not the case at all. Stork was never really behind in any point in the game. But I'm not complaining, this false sense of "comebacks" in Stork's games just makes it more epic!



On July 19 2009 15:22 scyper wrote:
How come IdrA is online when CJ has a match today? @_@


lol
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