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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
June 04 2009 22:55 GMT
#141
On June 05 2009 07:24 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 05:34 niteReloaded wrote:
How certain are you guys with your announcements?

I mean, there's like 50+ known players of each race, is it really the case that you can safely narrow it down to ONE just by looking at hotkeys?

I find it a bit surprising.


every single progamer has a unique hotkey pattern. Once you find the progamer, matching the replays is easy. The hard part is going through hundreds of replays to compare the hotkeys.

The uniqueness stems from not only what number they place on a unit or building, but also the time in which they do it. Most progamers are like robots, and will always do specifc hotkeys at exact times. So, for example, savior ALWAYS hotkeys his hatches 1-4, and then also he always hotkeys a larvae to 5 at around 50 seconds into the game. This is common among his replays, and it's a unique signature that lets you know without a doubt it's him. The same goes for MOST progamers. Sometimes you are right, and it's a bit cloudy, but even then, there are small differences.


If I recall correctly, I think you're completely wrong. He hotkeys his hatcheries 3-0 and 1-2 is units (at least through the early late game)
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 23:02:06
June 04 2009 23:01 GMT
#142
On June 05 2009 07:55 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 07:24 eXigent. wrote:
On June 05 2009 05:34 niteReloaded wrote:
How certain are you guys with your announcements?

I mean, there's like 50+ known players of each race, is it really the case that you can safely narrow it down to ONE just by looking at hotkeys?

I find it a bit surprising.


every single progamer has a unique hotkey pattern. Once you find the progamer, matching the replays is easy. The hard part is going through hundreds of replays to compare the hotkeys.

The uniqueness stems from not only what number they place on a unit or building, but also the time in which they do it. Most progamers are like robots, and will always do specifc hotkeys at exact times. So, for example, savior ALWAYS hotkeys his hatches 1-4, and then also he always hotkeys a larvae to 5 at around 50 seconds into the game. This is common among his replays, and it's a unique signature that lets you know without a doubt it's him. The same goes for MOST progamers. Sometimes you are right, and it's a bit cloudy, but even then, there are small differences.


If I recall correctly, I think you're completely wrong. He hotkeys his hatcheries 3-0 and 1-2 is units (at least through the early late game)


you are not recalling correct at all, because I am completely right. It would be easier just to look at a bunch of replays rather than post a reply with wrong information right?

here are 10 replays of savior, all of them showing what I just said.

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15578 savior vs bisu
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/16517 savior vs sharp
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/18678 savior vs by.style
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15525 savior vs NaDa
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15516 savior vs Flash
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15488 savior vs Cloud
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15483 savior vs forgg
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15462 savior vs mind
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/15351 savior vs oversky
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/14554 savior vs Nbs

So, tell me where I am completely wrong....
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
June 04 2009 23:08 GMT
#143
umm, if that replay of savior vs forgg is on othello, please open the link yourself and you will find that I was correct in my statement. Same with that sharp replay (if it's on tau cross)
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 23:13:39
June 04 2009 23:10 GMT
#144
On June 05 2009 08:08 LucasWoJ wrote:
umm, if that replay of savior vs forgg is on othello, please open the link yourself and you will find that I was correct in my statement. Same with that sharp replay (if it's on tau cross)


hmm, I take back my comment to an extent, just had to update my bwchart (was showing the same thing on every hotkey). His hatchery is always hotkeyed to 3, what I meant to say was he always hotkeys 1 through 4 right off the bat, and 5 is his larvae at 50 seconds in.

My mistake on saying they were all hatcheries, you were correct in stating they were not.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
June 04 2009 23:12 GMT
#145
On June 05 2009 08:08 LucasWoJ wrote:
umm, if that replay of savior vs forgg is on othello, please open the link yourself and you will find that I was correct in my statement. Same with that sharp replay (if it's on tau cross)


i downloaded a bunch and they are all hatchery 1-4 at the start
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
June 04 2009 23:18 GMT
#146
Oh, I see what you mean.

Okay, let me clarify what I was arguing: after the first few minutes savior uses 1 and 2 for his units. He saves the rest for his hatcheries. That he hotkeys 1-4 immediately is unarguable, but the way you worded your post, it read (to me) that you were arguing he kept 1-4 for the entire game (for his hatcheries).

I guess we're both right.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 05 2009 01:44 GMT
#147
On June 05 2009 05:53 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 04:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On June 05 2009 02:44 gettodaroflchoppa wrote:
what
ret and now you? T_T


Please don't compare the two -.-


??

I think he just meant two contributing members of the BW community are leaving the game.


Exactly.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 05 2009 01:51 GMT
#148
On June 05 2009 02:21 StylishVODs wrote:
I'll try to play only koreans with good stats from now on and post replays.
I might be able to play like 30games/day until I quit BW the 12th of june.

does this mean you're going to quit spreading misinformation too??
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
June 05 2009 02:41 GMT
#149
On June 04 2009 23:02 ericyang wrote:
no_korea = toodming


On June 05 2009 07:51 ericyang wrote:
XellOs vs No_Korea, some awesome muta control

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=14048
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/details/44317.html

No_Korea might be toodming, not F91


No_korea's hotkeys match with toodming's
rep of toodming if you want to check:
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=14051
its from here; rep's name is 4#Toodming vs Tosic[KAL]

isnt XellOs Ganzi?
agentzimp
TL+ Member
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 05 2009 02:42 GMT
#150
that muta micro was fucking sick btw.. everyone needs to watch that.. REALLY nice to see!
Shattered
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States267 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 02:49:23
June 05 2009 02:49 GMT
#151
CJEntusTerran - (T)HistOry[gm]


:O i played him :D

he p3ned me but i love that i can play agaisnt pro gamers on iccup :D
CJ entus fighting
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
June 05 2009 02:56 GMT
#152
On June 05 2009 11:49 Shattered wrote:
CJEntusTerran - (T)HistOry[gm]


:O i played him :D

he p3ned me but i love that i can play agaisnt pro gamers on iccup :D


repreprep
agentzimp
TL+ Member
fiRe)HappyZerg
Profile Joined April 2008
Ukraine277 Posts
June 05 2009 04:21 GMT
#153
WTF is the spoiler?
i've always wanted to ask~
Happy me, happy skill, happy win :D
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 05 2009 04:24 GMT
#154
On June 05 2009 10:51 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 02:21 StylishVODs wrote:
I'll try to play only koreans with good stats from now on and post replays.
I might be able to play like 30games/day until I quit BW the 12th of june.

does this mean you're going to quit spreading misinformation too??


Will you ever grow up? Sadly I know the answer...

I for one will look forward to seeing these replays
Drums
Profile Joined February 2009
United States35 Posts
June 05 2009 04:30 GMT
#155
someone should find out artosis's iccup ID. unless im an idiot and everyone arleady knows it, but man that guy is fuckin cool.
why do i suck so bad?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
June 05 2009 05:03 GMT
#156
On June 05 2009 07:51 ericyang wrote:
XellOs vs No_Korea, some awesome muta control

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=14048
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/details/44317.html

No_Korea might be toodming, not F91

as crazy as that crazy`hydra vs fanta rep on shin baekdu.

ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5546 Posts
June 05 2009 07:02 GMT
#157
On June 05 2009 11:41 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2009 23:02 ericyang wrote:
no_korea = toodming


Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 07:51 ericyang wrote:
XellOs vs No_Korea, some awesome muta control

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=14048
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/details/44317.html

No_Korea might be toodming, not F91


No_korea's hotkeys match with toodming's
rep of toodming if you want to check:
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=14051
its from here; rep's name is 4#Toodming vs Tosic[KAL]

isnt XellOs Ganzi?

XellOs looks like XellOs to me
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 05 2009 07:05 GMT
#158
On June 05 2009 10:51 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 02:21 StylishVODs wrote:
I'll try to play only koreans with good stats from now on and post replays.
I might be able to play like 30games/day until I quit BW the 12th of june.

does this mean you're going to quit spreading misinformation too??


I don't know what you or Incontrol have against me, I'm trying to help people with my threads and now I have the chance to play pro koreans.

Other people have written guides aswell but somehow I get all these attacks.
It makes me sad because you don't even know me.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7691 Posts
June 05 2009 07:07 GMT
#159
On June 05 2009 10:51 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 02:21 StylishVODs wrote:
I'll try to play only koreans with good stats from now on and post replays.
I might be able to play like 30games/day until I quit BW the 12th of june.

does this mean you're going to quit spreading misinformation too??


I would like to see you create something as helpfull for terran players as he did.

The amount of time and energy he put into helping deserves respect. He of course is limited by his level of play and understanding but its not like you have ever written out and out guides on how to do anything, although you have made some great strategy posts. I challenge you to improve upon what he did!
lux[chavii]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany115 Posts
June 05 2009 07:36 GMT
#160
On June 05 2009 10:51 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 02:21 StylishVODs wrote:
I'll try to play only koreans with good stats from now on and post replays.
I might be able to play like 30games/day until I quit BW the 12th of june.

does this mean you're going to quit spreading misinformation too??


Why do you even care?
I mean clearly, you know better and since when do you care about others?
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