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Poll: Who are you cheering for? (Vote ): Woongjin Stars (Vote ): KTF MagicNs Poll: Who do you think will win? (Vote ): Woongjin Stars (Vote ): KTF MagicNs
konadora
Singapore 66156 Posts
Holy shit isn't this tomorrow? lol Piano, Free, Geumchi. I just hate ZerO's face for some reason.
Flash Most likely Free Most likely Zero even though he got scrubbed in the MSL Guemchi. Flash in the ace, or maybe fOrGG, or Shine given KTF's coaching decisions.
LIM JIN FUCKING MOOK FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Well shine raped his MSL group, and right now he's definately playin better than forgg, so I'd put shine over forgg
wow this is really early. KTF Hwaiting!!! i hope no more stupid decisions this time.
lol I always crack up on Hoejja's crazy smile
These keep getting earlier and earlier. Piano > Flash Free > HoeJJa Zero < Luxury (as much as I love Zero, I can't ignore the MSL thrashing) GuemChi > Violet
On April 27 2009 16:00 Jaksiel wrote: These keep getting earlier and earlier. Piano > Flash Free > HoeJJa Zero < Luxury (as much as I love Zero, I can't ignore the MSL thrashing) GuemChi > Violet
YES HOEJJA AND FLASH ARE GOING TO LOSE TO THOSE SCRUBS lol why even post that+ Show Spoiler +
CAN PIANO WIN?! But seriously, he's been winning his past few games but I don't think he can take out Flash.
konadora
Singapore 66156 Posts
On April 27 2009 16:03 kOre wrote: CAN PIANO WIN?! But seriously, he's been winning his past few games but I don't think he can take out Flash.
Don't worry, Piano will proxy 8 rax while Flash 14CCs.
thing is Piano doesnt look as good live =P
OP isnt even Wstar or KTF fan. what a thread hogger, Scara, go steal next KTF match 2 days before time. added: sry my mistake :p losing in altitude gets me.
konadora
Singapore 66156 Posts
On April 27 2009 16:10 anch wrote: OP isnt even Wstar or KTF fan. what a thread hogger, Scara, go steal next KTF match 2 days before time.
...? He's a Stars fan, no?
There's no way Flash is going to let Piano beat him again.
On April 27 2009 16:14 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 16:10 anch wrote: OP isnt even Wstar or KTF fan. what a thread hogger, Scara, go steal next KTF match 2 days before time.
...?
He's a Stars fan, no?
Yeah. RealPenguin is probably the biggest stars fanboy on tl.
On April 27 2009 16:03 kOre wrote: CAN PIANO WIN?! But seriously, he's been winning his past few games but I don't think he can take out Flash.
Piano's a TvT snipah, and he already beat Flash in that epic All-Kill in WL. Honestly, Flash is still the favorite here, but Piano can take him.
flash hwaiting!
Piano < Flash free > Hoejja zero > Luxury GuemChi < Violet ACE: GGPlay > Flash Must believe for an ACE!
wonder if Hoejja is going to try to burrow glitch lings through the min patch would be damn surprised if he does, but probably a guarantee by now that Hoejja will get Burrow tech
+ Show Spoiler + i just hope free doesnt lose to another proxy hatch
go lux there has to be some (other) PL game that you can win... right?
stream is up but I'm having a hell of a time refreshing Daum to get a good one
and the stream is Ace vs SKT... edit: I just realized I should pay more attention to dates and what's supposed to be on air
This is going to be EPIC. These matchups are absolutely sick. Piano Flash rematch! Free HoeJJa on Destination... The hoe is 4-0 vs P on Destination, mostly due to his wily burrow tricks. Last victim? Bisu. Free, on the other hand, is a fucking monster. ZerO Lux MSL Semifinal rematch! ...and the Bonjwa-in-waiting Guemchi beats up on some scrub STARS! GOGOOGOGOOOG
Flash wins, free wins, ?, ?, free > Flash in ace game. Because my logo says so.
Piano>Flash Piano>Hoejja Piano>Luxury Yes... he will find a way to play all 3 games and nuke them all.
Excited about the first three matches, number 4? not so much. I really wish the best for Piano and Zero, hope these guys can step it up again.
This is really looking good for Stars
hmm Stars have a good chance of winning this I dont know too much about Piano's TvT except that he loves wraiths i think he will play nonstandard and suprise Flash, who's been kinda iffy~ Free vs Hoejja should be great. Hoejja rocks Destination, but Free rocks all Zerg ZerO will get rocked by Lux..again and game 4 wtf
why did you call gods garden god's backyard?>
On April 27 2009 16:17 iLoveKTF wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 16:14 konadora wrote: On April 27 2009 16:10 anch wrote: OP isnt even Wstar or KTF fan. what a thread hogger, Scara, go steal next KTF match 2 days before time.
...?
He's a Stars fan, no?
Yeah. RealPenguin is probably the biggest
stars fanboy on tl.
anybody remember the Guemchi, next bonjwa! thread???
As much as I hate to admit it, Woongjin probably will win this. They have PianO the vT sniper, ZerO playing his best match-up, too. Well, we'll see what happens.
Free Hoejja should be amazing.
why no Shine or ForGG T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T
On April 28 2009 08:10 whatusername wrote: why did you call gods garden god's backyard?>
Because it sounds better and I think everyone should start calling the safe third base the "backyard" On April 28 2009 08:14 Sunyveil wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 16:17 iLoveKTF wrote: On April 27 2009 16:14 konadora wrote: On April 27 2009 16:10 anch wrote: OP isnt even Wstar or KTF fan. what a thread hogger, Scara, go steal next KTF match 2 days before time.
...?
He's a Stars fan, no?
Yeah. RealPenguin is probably the biggest
stars fanboy on tl.
anybody remember the Guemchi, next bonjwa! thread???
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87957 Here's the thread for anyone who didn't see. I was making fun of the bisu next bonjwa threads.
ace match with flash please and maybe he'll 14CC and lose.... again....
Piano < Flash Free > Hoejja Zero < Luxury Guemchi > Violet Free < Flash KTF Wins!!!
Piano > Flash Free < Hoejja Zero > Luxury Guemchi < Violet Free < Flash
i think KTF will send out forGG on heartbreak ridge again. I think he's played on it every time KTF have played it.
On April 28 2009 12:30 Tyxiquale wrote: i think KTF will send out forGG on heartbreak ridge again. I think he's played on it every time KTF have played it.
That is definitely true. ForGG seems like a heartbreak specialist on KTF. So I am 90% sure they will send Forgg again if it comes to the ace... (unfortunately...)
or maybe KTF is trying to trick stars... which is more likely.. cos the stars Ace is going to be zero/free, and as forgg is known for his tvp noobness, it might end up being flash, who beat free last time on an epic epic andromeda game. So I do hope that's what KTF intend to do, and have the game play it into their hands rather than having the asses handed to them.
In last games Flash outplayed his protoss opponents by a class, but his TvT seemed little shaky lately, i'm curious if he can deliver this time
On April 28 2009 16:14 JWD wrote: KTF Protosses lol.
fun fact: I believe KTF protoss are 4-1 in round 4.
Stars are going to roll over KTFail 3-0.
On April 28 2009 15:19 coolcrimefighter wrote: SO MANY MIRRORS
thats why i miss winners league...
PianO < Flash free[gm] > HoeJJa ZerO > Luxury GuemChi > Violet 3-1 Stars My two favourite zergs fighting! If everything goes well ill be streaming: http://livesc1.co.cc
Where is the STX v HITE thread? ^_____^
Piano < Flash Free > HoeJJa Zero > Luxury GuemChi > Violet Luxury been sucking lately like jangbi, and I am a jangbi fan, so its saying something, so I predict stars take it 3 - 1
On April 28 2009 17:43 ama-cms wrote: Where is the STX v HITE thread? ^_____^
i was wondering about the same thing
Will someone actually make the other thread: STX vs Hite ?
Ouch, looks like Antivirus 2009. Try running MalwareBytes Anti-Malware and then post a HiJackThis log on a security forum. Provided you can download them, of course. We need you to get back streaming asap Anyways, these matches are starting soon. Should be good
I swear I will flood this thread with STX stuff if the other thread won't get created soon. ^.__.^
On April 28 2009 18:13 ama-cms wrote: I swear I will flood this thread with STX stuff if the other thread won't get created soon. ^.__.^
go make one yourself
Aotearoa 39261 Posts
i was just watching the air fight between fantasy and jaedong! oh damm wraiths=paper plane so damm true
I'm torn between KTF FPL points and G-chizzle.+ Show Spoiler + No, I'm not. G-chizzle 4life.
Yesss, got the Daum stream working. Crucial for your favorite team.
Awesome, I got a stream up. Too bad it's the choppy OGN direct feed Can't wait for the match to start.
Still no thread up for stx vs hite
Hey i just saw that theres no LR thread for the other match, STX vs Hite. Can someone start it? i would do it myself but i wont be here in 30 minutes to update. Thanks.
I LB'ed Stars and Hite, upsets time!
On April 28 2009 18:33 Crunchums wrote: Still no thread up for stx vs hite
i can post the res here if you want is there a vlc link for any of these matches?
PainO over Flash. Also stream still hasn't started working for me
Flash at bottom in green Piano at top in red Outsider
YEAHHHH LET'S GO STARS VS KTF PIANO VS FLASH STARTING! Piano is red at 3 o'clock Flash is green at 5 o'clock
No cheese from Piano, looking standard so far for both players. Piano building a depot at the top of his ramp, looking to wall-in
Flash built his depot near his mineral line, and rax/gas is going up for him Piano placing a rax and unfinished depot to finish the wall, and scouting with an SCV in the wrong direction
Piano sees that 9 o'clock is empty, headed to 5 o'clock now Factory going up for Flash, while Piano is glitching an SCV to the 11 o'clock expos
CC going up at 11 o'clock Piano can't get his SCV into Flash's main because of a marine wall on the ramp Flash finally sending a scouting SCV in the right direction
Piano placing a bunker at the top of his ramp Zero/Luxury shown on camera, both blushing Piano placing a depot below his main, to act as a spotter (?) Piano's 11 o'clock CC is finished Flash trying get his scouting SCV into Piano's main, but he has a loaded bunker there
Really cool play from Piano sending mass scvs through to his expansion across the minerals.
Tanks out for Flash, just chilling at the nat 2nd fact going up for both players, Machine Shop just going up for Piano Flash moving out with 4 marines and 2 tanks
Flash has his nat up and running Starport going up for Piano Armory going up for Flash
Piano with 1 tank out, Flash with 3 Academy going up for both players Piano tries to send a scouting SCV to Flash's main, but the tanks kill it
Dropships coming from Piano soon. This has been a strong opening from him
Control Tower going up for Piano Third fact going up for Flash
Comsats up for both players Goliaths out for both players as well Flash scanning Piano's main, not sure if he sees the Starport Dship out for Piano, loaded with tanks
Piano's Dship gets spotted by a spotting depot Instead of dropping Flash's main or nat, he drops his 2 tanks and takes out the depot 2nd Dship out for Piano, loaded with tank/gol Flash cleans it up with his tank/gol army
Flash should be repairing that CC
Piano using both his Dships to drop on a cliff at Flash's nat Tanks sieged and taking out the CC Flash quickly sieging up in response, and repairing the CC Flash overpowers the drop, but now Piano is dropping the back of the nat
This game is pretty awesome
Flash expanding to 9 o'clock, but a lone marine denies it Flash is sending part of his army to retake it 3 Dships for Piano, going along the right side of teh map
Piano genuinely has some moves although none of his drops have done much damage
Piano drtopping a bunch of tank/gol on Flash's main Flash is ready to defend, and Piano quickly reloads his units Flash completes his 9 o'clock expo Piano moving out with a moderate tank/gol force towards 9 o'clock
Piano's army gets absolutely crushed in the middle of the map.
He is going to run over this fool.
Flash is moving towards it, ready to defend Flash is running over Piano's forces with ease Piano has several Dships out, but no units to utilize them Piano's nat is contained by Siege tanks
Piano forced to lift his nat CC, looks like he's floating it to his right mineral wall
Cool strat from Piano though. I like this map :D
OK, Flash's attack-move without sieging was pretty hilarious.
On April 28 2009 18:48 Vasoline73 wrote: Cool strat from Piano though. I like this map :D
Check out the newest poll!
Starport going up for Flash Flash's tank/gol contain preventing Piano from doing anything Piano taking another base further in at 11 o'clock, and loading up a Dship with 8 SCVs
Piano is expanding a billion times. ballsy.
I'm not sure why Piano hasn't GG'ed yet.
Flash taking the 9 o'clock nat Piano doing a silly 1 tank/1 gol drop at 9 o'clock, but Flash has 3 tanks there to clean it up Flash now attacking Piano's newly made 11 o'clock with sieged tanks A bunch of SCV's going down Piano trying to SCV bomb Flash's Tanks, but it's no use
Piano breaking out of the contain with a ton of tank/gol, as well as Dships Flash simply bringing more tanks to reinforce the contain, and they heavily outnumber Piano's units Sci Facility up for Flash
Piano throwing away SCVs at the contain in desperation Flash putting a bunch of turrets everywhere 2 Dships out for Flash, headed for the back of 3 o'clock
my stream is now up sorry for the delay but i had to reinstall pretty much everything.
Piano with some cute tank/dropship micro
Piano using some silly Dship micro to defend the drop, but he fails, and loses his SCVs at 3 Flash expanding again to 6-7 o'clock Flash pushing into Piano's nat with tank/gol Piano's got no units Piano GGs
About time PianO folded. wtf BO was he using? It just didn't have enough units.
Piano probably spent all days practicing dropship play.
Flash - get in, get out, get on with your life.
I bet Hoejja is going to do his cute little burrow trick again.
On April 28 2009 18:53 scwizard wrote: About time PianO folded. wtf BO was he using? It just didn't have enough units.
He had units, but he was dropping them and they were getting destroyed.
On April 28 2009 18:53 scwizard wrote: About time PianO folded. wtf BO was he using? It just didn't have enough units.
It was pretty weird :/. Like, barracks on 11, CC at 16? Refinery at 17? So really late factory. Didn't really seem like a solid build imo, but that might have just been because it was against Flash. The dropship play was pretty awesome from piano.
On April 28 2009 18:57 scwizard wrote: free has this. Who the hell is
HoeJJa anyway?
The guy that beat bisu with some sexy burrow play.
On April 28 2009 18:57 scwizard wrote: free has this. Who the hell is
HoeJJa anyway?
their last meeting on Carthage 2 was epic, must watch for anyone who hasn't seen it Hoejja is a very good ZvP, but I'm not sure if he can take out Free.
On April 28 2009 18:53 scwizard wrote: About time PianO folded. wtf BO was he using? It just didn't have enough units.
reason he couldn't get any units was cos he was on 1 gas after flash took his nat
Piano looked pretty good early game with the faster expansion and dropships hitting here, there, everywhere. Flash prevented him from doing anything more than superficial damage, though. A depot down, a few potshots at the cc and the refinery were all the damage he did and lost a lot of units. Add in the gas used for the dropships and Piano's ground army was very weak compared to Flash's.
Man I hope Hoejja wins . I want him to be the real deal.
free at bottom in blue Hoejja at top in purple Destination
(rofl I wish Stars had a mascot that looked like the guy in the logo) FREE VS HOEJJA STARTING! Free is light blue at 5 o'clock Hoejja is purple at 11 o'clock
Free is BISU BUILDING building a pylon at nat and scouting Hoejja opening with 9 pool
Interesting that Flash chooses to go for so late dropships. I feel this has contributed to several of his recent TvT losses. But here it worked out; he used his superior ground army to his advantage and pushed out at just the right time for Piano to be unable to defend properly.
Free putting up a Forge Free' scouting probe annoying the drones 6 lings hatching for Hoejja
That girl with the glasses was cute.
Free putting up 2 cannons in response to the fast lings 6 lings are out, and headed for the 7 o'clock expo (?!)
THERE'S NO LING SPEED ON THOSE LINGS HOEJJA BURROWING ON THE BACK MINERALS HOEJJA GLITCHES HIS LINGS INTO FREE'S MAIN
On April 28 2009 18:59 Realpenguin wrote: their last meeting on Carthage 2 was epic, must watch for anyone who hasn't seen it
Hoejja is a very good ZvP, but I'm not sure if he can take out Free.
Where can I find the VOD? It's up on Jon747 but it's sped up rendering it unwatchable (there's something very disturbing about watching starcraft units move very slightly faster than your used to seeing them move) Hoejja pulls the burrow trick getting in 5 lings XD
Um, Free, did you not watch ANY of HoeJJa's games on this map?
thx for updates.
FREE PULLING PROBES AND HE KILLS 3 OF THE LINGS 2 LEFT CANNON ALMOST UP IN FREE'S MAIN, AND THE LINGS just reburrow right outside of the cannons range Nexus going up at Free's nat Hoejja upgrading to Lair, 2 hatches going up
So what did that really even do? He got a couple probe kills and forced a cannon... was that worth it?
Free's core is up Stargate going up for free, and the 2 lings unburrow to attack it Free forces the reburrow with a lone zealot Spire going up for Hoejja
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if free loses i blame it on his emo fringe
i dont think so he wasted minerals and time... 1 cannon = 6 lings in minerals maybe probe kills kinda make up for it
Core is upgrading something Hoejja being annoying with burrow, forcing the zealot to run around Stargate is flashing, and first corsair is out
of course it is.. 6 zerglings = 150 minerals.. think about it
5th hatch going up for Hoejja Stargate still flashing for Free Free's corsair scouting around Hoejja's main, sees all of his tech Citadel going up for Free
of course it is.. 6 zerglings = 150 minerals.. think about it
+ burrow research...
Scourge out for Hoejja, trying to spawnkill a corsair Free rallied his corsair to the cannons, scourge can't touch them Templar Archives up for Free Free adding 3 gates (total of 4) Ouch, Hoejja snipes the next corsair with his scourge
Wow super sloppy from Free losing that corsair
A stray sair gets nailed by scourge! Maybe if he goes on to snipe a high templar with those 2 lings?
Rally point didn't work or what, rofl.
Free has a DT out Hoejja trying to run lings into Free's nat, but it can't do much About 6-7 corsairs moving out to 2 o'clock Free sending a DT there as well
lol free
Bad place to attack, Hoejja has too many ovies and hydras there Hoejja's burrowed ling in Free's main trying to snipe HT
On April 28 2009 19:13 Crunchums wrote: Maybe if he goes on to snipe a high templar with those 2 lings?
Hahahaha he actually just tried this
Free's corsairs aren't doing much but running from hydras The corsairs finally pick off an overlord Hoejja pushing out with a large hydra/ling force Free finally kills the annoying ling in his main
On April 28 2009 19:11 Tyxiquale wrote: of course it is.. 6 zerglings = 150 minerals.. think about it
Aside from the Burrow, that's really not how it works with Zerg....
Nice storm dodge from Hoejja
Hoejja staying outside of Free's nat with hydra/ling Hoejja tries to scout out Free's main with an ovie, but it gets sniped Free breaking out of the hydra contain with some well placed storms Robo up for Free
Free moving his army towards 2 o'clock, but Hoejja has a huge hydra army out, forcing Free to find a better position Lurks out for Hoejja Hoejja trying to flank Free's army at the middle bridges, but Free is managing his army well and scares them off with storm Free looking to expand to 4 o'clock
Free moving over the middle bridges, Hoejja's army scared off by storm Hoejja taking a stand with burrowed lurks and hydras Free getting in position to attack it Free a-moving his army right up in Hoejja's grill
free doing his best Jangbi impression with those storms
Free should disruption web the lurkers.
Free gets some massive storms off, but still backs off Free now moving in again, storming some lurker eggs Free taking out a lot of lurks and hydra He doesn't kill the lurker eggs, and Free is forced away as they hatch
Ohhhhhhh shit. Lings run in. Nice
On April 28 2009 19:19 scwizard wrote: Free should disruption web the lurkers.
cost of upgrade isnt worth it they can just move away....
Free moving his army back to the middle bridge Hoejja getting in position with lurks Hoejja flanking Free's army with a ton of lings, but no serious damage was done
Hoejja really is a good player.
Free trying to expand to 8 o'clock Hive up for Hoejja, Defiler Mound finishing up Free moving his army towards the left side of the map, Hoejja staying put outside of his nat bridges
Damnit Free, have you ever heard of reavers!
Hoejja trying to move small ling groups near the middle bridges, but Free is keeping everything covered Free continuing this defense, and Hoejja is now moving up with his lurks and some defilers
I hope we see the patented Free strategy of making 42 Archons.
Man what is it with ZvP on destination and epicness
Hoejja sniping a lot of templars with cracklings
PIMP. lol. picks up defiler with the ovie... lol. hoejja win it!
On April 28 2009 19:22 Jaksiel wrote: I hope we see the patented Free strategy of making 42 Archons.
that would be sick... steamrolled by archons
Support Bay is up for Free Hoejja moving to 9 o'clock with lings and a defiler, looking to attack 4 o'clock Free discovers the lings with a stray zealot, and Hoejja is forced back Hoejja still saves the Defiler with a conveniently placed Overlord
Woah? Tasteless is commentating on this live? Where where?
2 reavers out for Free Hoejja trying to expand to 9 o'clock, but Free denies it, Hoejja forced to cancel Free's army still keeping close to the 8 o'clock expo
Hoejja sending a massive ling army towards 8 o'clock Hoejja attacking Free's 4 o'clock with lings + swarm, but Free cleans it up with zealot/archon Free has a shuttle out, loaded with reavers
lol this is starting to look like one of Lux's old ZvPs.... in a bad way
Free easily defends the 4 o'clock Free pumping a ton of reavers out Ultra Cavern up for Hoejja Hoejja moving his army to 9 o'clock because he really wants to expand Free just moving his army back and forth, keeping a nice defense
free's pretty much won this game...
However many archons he has it obviously isn't enough.
Free storm-dropping Hoejja's 10 o'clock expo, and gets a few drones, but loses the shuttle and HT HOEJJA ATTACKING FREE'S 8 O'CLOCK EXPO 2 REAVERS DEFENDING BUT WHAT THE REAVERS HAVE NO SCARABS HOEJJA FOCUS FIRING THE NEXUS
HoeJJa is good at making Zerglings.
Woah, I saw an archon ball there.
THE NEXUS GOES DOWN Free drops his other 2 reavers and brings his army to clean it up Free rebuilding 8 o'clock Hoejja attacking it again with a mass lings and swarm, but Free has reavers that are actually loaded now
Wow, free saved his shuttles from a lot of scourges
HOEEEEEEEEEEEJJJJJJJJJJJAAAAAAAA!!! Fuck yeah. So good. I love this kid
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Free with a hgue archon count Hoejja still trying to send units to 8 o'clock, but Free's archon/reaver army is wrecking whatever he sends Hoejja also attacking 4 o'clock with cracklings + swarm Hoejja dropping Free's main with cracklings
hoejja is leet. enough said
NEXUSSSSSSS. Who needs Ultras anyways?
Holy shit that was some pimp play from HoeJJa. Draw Free's army's attention, then simulatenously swarm the 5:00 expo and drop the Gateways.
Hoejja has sick ZvP. Did so much damage with cracklings and swarm.
Free quickly defends it with his archon/reaver, but now he has only 1-2 bases mining HOEJJA GOING FOR 8 O'CLOCK, CRACKLINGS TAKE OUT THE NEXUS
Free is sweating a lot, he needs to push and stop defending
Free is only mining from the small 7 o'clock expo now Ultras now out for Hoejja
Damn these cute "attacks" free is trying. He needs to be more aggressive...
Free still defending with archon/reaver at 8 o'clock Hoejja dropping ultraling in Free's main Free's last gates are going down
FREE STEP IT UP!! i liquibet stars! free could probably go in and attack...
Hoejja attacking 8 o'clock again, but Free's archon/reaver/HT is keeping Hoejja away Free ggs
Oh man, hoejja is relentless. but is it enough? free has a huge ball. Edit: OH MAN HOEJJA THAT WAS BRILLIANT.
Hoejja did the impossible: he caught Free out of position. Great, great play.
Hoejja, King of Destination!
Will Luxury screw it up again? ;o
Whoa. What a sick comeback!!!
HOEJJA. LOL mascot + Dartboard + wink + hoejja... too fucking funny.
Hoejja played that amazingly well. Slowly securing the bridges with lurkers and adding expansions while playing along the sides of the map to make Free chase him from one side to the other.
Hoejja is a lot better than his record shows. I get a feeling he's gonna be like Luxury without the zvz rape (kind of streaky but undoubtedly good).
If Luxury screws up, then they will have to drag it out for game 5. ROFL. It's funny how KTF has to struggle for a team win.
That was the sickest ling play i've seen in a loooong long time. Mad props to Hoejja.
On April 28 2009 19:33 Lhyviathan wrote: Whoa. What a sick comeback!!!
Seriously, he looked lost midgame but he kept attacking everywhere and came back to win.
Nice play. Free seldom lose late games pvz
He did it like pure ling too which was insane. Free needed reavers much sooner.
So how does a protoss beat the burrow trick on destination? Bisu and free can't do it...
dont really get why ppl are saying that free had this. When he tried to push hoejjas natural and failed he was behind by two expos. And after that hoejja just wore him out by sniping templars and attacking from all over the place.
On April 28 2009 19:36 sidesprang wrote: dont really get why ppl are saying that free had this. When he tried to push hoejjas natural and failed he was behind by two expos. And after that hoejja just wore him out by sniping templars and attacking from all over the place.
he was only a mineral only expo behind, his third was done by the time of the push
On April 28 2009 19:37 SuperArc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 19:36 sidesprang wrote: dont really get why ppl are saying that free had this. When he tried to push hoejjas natural and failed he was behind by two expos. And after that hoejja just wore him out by sniping templars and attacking from all over the place.
he was only a mineral only expo behind, his third was done by the time of the push
Hoejja failed earlier aswell with the burrow rush, free did have a big big lead that game btw when free was pushing, they were on even bases for PvZ, free just had a massive army advantage
hoejja is the next big zerg, easy fantasy points top 10 here i come!
On April 28 2009 19:35 Nuj wrote: So how does a protoss beat the burrow trick on destination? Bisu and free can't do it...
Burrow didn't do to much against Free , only against Bisu .
I think the Shuttle plague probably helped Hoejja a lot. Without mobile reavers, Free had a lot more trouble defending and couldn't reasonably attack at all.
Free's ball looked too huge to stop. It reminded me of this thing from Hot_Bid's FE, where he described Blue storm zvp. He said, "The recent zergling-factory trend on Blue Storm has led to every PvZ on the map climaxing in a “oh shit, all I have left are dragoons” moment. It’s where the big Protoss midgame push looks like it might work because the army is so big and shiny, but the attack stalls out and the Protoss player is left with maybe eight to twelve dragoons and a morphing archon against six hatcheries worth of reinforced 2/2 adrenal zerglings. Through exhaustive historical analysis I have concluded that if Blue Storm was actually early 1940s Eurasia, the third Zerg gas would be Moscow, the Protoss would be the Germans, and the adrenal upgrade would be the Russian Winter." It doesn't fully translate, since free never actually committed to a push, but the "Zergling factory" thing was clearly demonstrated in Hoejja's play. Sick sick harass and drops.
Hmm Protoss is close to going <40% in PvZ in proleague now.
On April 28 2009 19:41 Highways wrote: Hmm Protoss is close to going <40% in PvZ in proleague now.
It's the damn terrans.
I won't spoil anything, but if you're not checking out the other LR thread you're missing some of the best progaming e-drama in a while.
Aotearoa 39261 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [HITEvsSTX Drama] + Leta just got DQd vs Kal for typing pp instead of ppp to request a pause. What makes this worse is that his vga card died ie he couldn't see what he was typing and he was still DQd KeSPA sucks
On April 28 2009 19:44 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler [HITEvsSTX Drama] + Leta just got DQd vs Kal for typing pp instead of ppp to request a pause. What makes this worse is that his vga card died ie he couldn't see what he was typing and he was still DQd KeSPA sucks
who had the advantage in the game?
Aotearoa 39261 Posts
On April 28 2009 19:46 shaozu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 19:44 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler [HITEvsSTX Drama] + Leta just got DQd vs Kal for typing pp instead of ppp to request a pause. What makes this worse is that his vga card died ie he couldn't see what he was typing and he was still DQd KeSPA sucks
who had the advantage in the game?
It was unclear
On April 28 2009 19:34 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously, he looked lost midgame but he kept attacking everywhere and came back to win.
Yeah, I tuned in when Hoejja was grimly defending the bridges leading to his natural and back mineral-only. I thought he was toast in 5 minutes max. Truly exhilirating Hive-tech play.
I am gonna laugh out hard if zero go down without muta fight again.
ZERO VS LUXURY STARTING Zero is green at 11 o'clock Lux is yellow at 5 o'clock
Luxury at right in yellow zero at left in green Battle Royale
asdf I hate this map Zero getting a gas first, then pool Lux with the opposite
The Sux vs the Rising brilliant.
AHAHAHA BM SPINNING OVERLORDS!
Both players' overlords are dancing XD
llllllllol. Spinning the overlords haha
WHITE GUY ALERTPOSSIBLY AN ENGLISH TEACHER Both overlords spinning around in their opponents main, how silly Lairs going up for both players Luxury is killing Zero's Assimilators
Both went for ling speed first
I just tuned in, who started spinning his Overlord first?
Zero sees this with an overlord Luxury takes out the first one, and making progress on the second
Zero has a ling wall at his main choke Lux doing the same Lux engaging Zero's lings, but they come out even and both back off Spires going up for both players
both ling speed.... end it with ling battle?
ovie hypnosis in progress
3-0 incoming imo. Lux showing why he is the 2nd best ZvZ player
ROFL FAILLLLL!!! Hops the drone over hahahahahaha
Lux running his ligns around Zero's main, Zero's lings just chasing them around, stopping any daamge from being done Zero's assimilators are dead, so he's trying to glitch them through with lings Zero only gets his drone and 1 ling through -_-
that drone is as good as dead, and in a zvz, that hurts
The lone ling takes out a drone in Lux's main Mutas out for both players Stars coach was facepalming
hehe i got hoejaa, lux and ktf on fantasy team =)
Zero breaking down the temple at his nat Both players just leaving their mutas at their main in patrol Zero breaking the Psi Disruptor to enter the middle of the map MUTAS ARE ENGAGING, but both players just lose 1-2 and run off
lllllllllllllllllllllllllol. Lux the choke master
lol as expected this kid(zero) sux.
WHOA ZERO RUNNING INTO LUX'S MAIN WITH MUTALING LUX ONLY HAS A FEW DRONES MINING ZERO WITH A MUTA COUNT ADVANTAGE LUX DESPERATELY TRYING TO COME BACK WITH SCOURGE LUX GGSOn April 28 2009 19:56 5tarscream wrote: lol as expected this kid(zero) sux.
ROFL ROFL ROFL
wow zero, just fucking wow.
Zero SICK MUTA CONTROL, add in lings raping Lux' drones and it is GG!!
Damn Zero sick muta micro owns Luxury in the air right after owning him on the ground with lings.
goddamn it luxury. why??!?!
Luxury? Losing Proleague? Color me baffled.
Luxury GG's that man is on a mission to fail as many fantasy teams as possible
That was much better than the MSL games.
As expected from Luxury. Good thing I stopped choosing him for Fantasy. =D
Well, game 5, here we go.
On April 28 2009 19:53 Vasoline73 wrote: 3-0 incoming imo. Lux showing why he is the 2nd best ZvZ player
I'm sure there's something really obvious that I'm just stupid for missing, but how do the players spin their overlords like that?
Yeah, seriously, how is that done?
On April 28 2009 19:58 Jaksiel wrote: I'm sure there's something really obvious that I'm just stupid for missing, but how do the players spin their overlords like that?
Patrol very close, basically right on top of the overlord.
Time for our Bonjwa to show Violet where he belongs to.
Lux didn't even bother microing his drones when the lings came
oh luxury... i was expecting you to stomp this zero kid
having lux in my fantasy team is fail, i could be in top 10 with calm instead =(
On April 28 2009 19:58 Malongo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 19:53 Vasoline73 wrote: 3-1 incoming imo. Lux showing why he is the biggest choker
Why did you cross out what I wrote?
shit, guemchi > bisu. Violet, you're dead mannnn
Well, my predictions are full of fail so far. I hope GuemChi ends that streak.
looking forward to see Flash again
Jujst how could Luxury win MSL like this? :D
guy doesnt care about PL. so annoying.
On April 28 2009 20:03 johanes wrote: looking forward to see Flash again
Knowing KTF they're going to send out Forgg, who will lose to Piano for the lulz.
On April 28 2009 20:03 Teejing wrote: Jujst how could Luxury win MSL like this? :D
No idea. But he's off my fantasy team as soon as new trading begins
+ Show Spoiler + On April 28 2009 20:04 epjx31 wrote: hey you guys read the drama happening in the STX match? Leta just got DQ
use spoilers for other games pls
On April 28 2009 20:04 epjx31 wrote: i can't use spoilers
qft edit: lol johanes
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On April 28 2009 20:06 johanes wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 20:04 epjx31 wrote: hey you guys read the drama happening in the STX match? Leta just got DQ
use spoilers for other games pls
yeah and quoting it really helps, right?
G-CHIZZLE VS VIOLET STARTING! Guemchi is teal at 11 o'clock Violet is purple at 1 o'clock
I wonder if there's any fomos articles on exactly why or how it is that Luxury is this consistently bad in proleague/WL and so much better in individual leagues? ^^
On April 28 2009 20:05 Manit0u wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 20:03 Teejing wrote: Jujst how could Luxury win MSL like this? :D
No idea. But he's off my fantasy team as soon as new trading begins
funny how that'll be like rubbing salt on the wound.
Even outside of wanting him to win because he's on "my" team, I want GuemChi to win so Realpenguin has a good reason to post the G-Chizzle picture.
Lux won MSL cause of his parent's "mind control." Now that he's not in a starleague, he's under much less pressure, and not parental "mind control."
Man I regret I haven't traded Lux for Hogil or Guemchi >_> Oh well, he did this last season to me too... GUEMCHI NEXT BONJWA
Both players opening stanard with pylon/gate Guemchi gets a scouting probe into Violet's main 1 zealot out for Guemchi, no gas yet
I wanna see some JD vs Zero, this Zero kid is really pretty awesome at ZvZ
Violet hiding a probe in Guemchi's backyard gas/core going up for Guemchi Violet places a pylon at the backyard, but cancels it because 1 zealot was attacking
Did I just see gas stealing and pylon at opponent's nat? EDIT: Manner pylon to I think.
Violet's scouting probe being chased by 2 zealtos Guemchi gets a manner pylon off in Violet's main, trapping 1 probe, and cancelling before it warped in
geh, aside from my captain, luxury is my most played fantasy team member yet he almost always manage to do this.
Guemchi moving out with 3 zealots and 1 goon right for Violet Or not, he's just moving his 1 goon to Violet's nat Violet placing a Nexus at his backyard Robo going up for Guemchi
Robo going up for Violet 2nd gate going up for Guemchi Violet trying to get a scouting probe in, but Guemchi's goons scare it off
Guemchi taking his nat Observatory going up for Guemchi Violet slapping down a Support Bay
Guemchi playing overly safe and Violet takes the lead. 1 gate -> expand > 2 gate robo-ob->expand
Shuttle out for Violet Guemchi moving out with 5 goons and an ob, but instead the goons fall back the the ob scouts the support bay Violet adding more gates (total of 4-5)
Guemchi moving out with goons and 2 zealots Armies are engaging, and Guemchi is forced to run because Violet has a shuttle/reaver Reaver out for Guemchi, Guemchi forced all the way to his nat
What would happen if i were to trade away Guemchi from my anti-team right now? Would I still get minus point if he were to win? Since i traded away before update? Anyone knows?
Violet snipes Guemchi's reaver Guemchi pulling probes to defend, but the shuttle/reaver micro is too good Guemchi has few goons left to defend, but he gets a shuttle/reaver out and cleans it up
LOL. Goes back to Violets base and NOTHING. No probes transfered, no new units.. lolllllll wtf.
Nevermind, I'm stupid. Goon was on the cliff
2nd reaver out for Guemchi Violet with shuttle speed, taking out a stray goon at his backyard cliff
Did GuemChi Reaver drop Violet without the observer going to it? That would explain why probes were missing from Violet's natural and why GuemChi didn't have a Shuttle at first for the battle at his base.
Guemchi moving towards Violet's base, but falls back after sniping an ob Guemchi keeping close to his nat, ready to defend with 2 reavers and an AI pylon Violet moving out with a fairly large goon army
Violet makes a bad attack. The bonjwa is now hugely in the lead. n/m Violet brought enough reinforcements.
Violet moving in to engage Guemchi's army at the nat again Guemchi snipes Violet's only reaver and snatches the advantage Violet forced to back off like a pansy Guemchi moving out of the natural, but a new reaver is out for Violet
Guemchi is forced back into the nat with the safety of his AI pylon and reavers Violet being very aggressive, but maybe too aggressive Violet's reaver gets sniped again, and a huge chunk of his goons are lost Guemchi placing a shield battery at his nat life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Guemchi narrowly survives another huge nat break attempt with 2 dts.
Violet attacking the nat AGAIN, Violet with more units than Guemchi this time Guemchi keeping it under control with reavers and now a lone DT GUEMCHI'S DT SNIPES THE REAVER Violet is forced back again, despite taking out most of Guemchi's goons
Wow Violet ready to attack again Violet snipes one of Guemchi's reavers, another reaver is out, but Violet has too many goons out Guemchi keeping the ramp defended with 3 goons Guemchi pulling probes to defend
Wow. This KTF protoss (I won't even use his name) is going to win. GG
The purple protoss wins
Aotearoa 39261 Posts
the obs just missed a DT raping the shit out of violets minline
Violet drops a reaver and takes out the goons Guemchi ggsOn April 28 2009 20:22 Plexa wrote: the obs just missed a DT raping the shit out of violets minline
heh, just like what happened to Bisu
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Violet can't be stopped now, he's marching up the ramp.
Uccch, I thought GuemChi was in good shape by holding off those first couple attacks.
VIOLET IS NEW BONJWA!!!!!!
KTF Protoss getting scary while Luxury and forgg suck
Heard the joke about KTF Protoss in PL Round 4? Yeah, neither have I. KTF FTW!!!!
I wonder if GuemChi was short on Gateways. I was surprised that Violet was able to reinforce with so many units and GC didn't seem to have as many popping out.
GG now. Green is overrun.
Jiiks can you switch to hite vs stx stream now that is oveR?
GG KTF
On April 28 2009 20:25 Samurai- wrote: Jiiks can you switch to hite vs stx stream now that is oveR?
Hite vs Stx is over as well.
This Violet guy may be the next big protoss from KTF. He is currently on a 5 win streak, 3 in proleague. Gotta watch him!
Tempest has been decent too. He's won against Leta and Anytime in his last couple games. KTF PROTOSS!
Oh yeah Go Violet!! I hope you don't do a Lucifer though.
This Violet guy may be the next big protoss from KTF. He is currently on a 5 win streak, 3 in proleague. Gotta watch him!
Ya.... who would have expected Violet to be doing so well lately. The last time I heard from him was years ago. Nice to see~
KTF protosses representing. Now KTF just needs WL back so Luxury can stop sucking complete and KTF might be able to size up against the other teams like they did before.
luxury sucking brings good results for the protoss. hoejja is getting good yo.
dame yo~ Violet is picking up where Lucifer left off i hope this time he stays in pristene shape~ Neo-Reach time baby
Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but the curse of the pandabearguy has been violated again:VIDEO
At about 15:58 Hoejja kills the pandabearguy with lurker splash.
On April 29 2009 02:34 anch wrote: luxury sucking brings good results for the protoss. hoejja is getting good yo.
You mean like in round 2 when Luxury went 3-6 and KTF toss went 1-10?
The Ursadon live in the thundra of the planet Braxis. It's a polar bear, not a pandabear. -_-;;;;;;;; "Description The ursadon thrives in the snowy frozen wastelands, and possess no natural enemies. These carnivorous animals hunt in the icy water for food. Instances of attacks on humans are rare, but the few recorded instances of an enraged ursadon attack have always ended in tragedy. The Koprulu Wilderness Society recommends keeping a safe distance from ursadons for the safety of both the safety of observers and that of the ursadons. History Ursadons have also been found on other ice worlds, including a dark moon that Zeratul encountered on one of his journeys, so it is confirmed that they have been found even outside of their presumed homeworld of Braxis. Three were subjected to experiments by Clandestine Mercenaries, causing a broodling to emerge from one of their stomachs upon death. Braxis was "purified" by the protoss under Artanis during a secret mission, rendering the ursadon mostly extinct."
I absolutely loved how HoeJJa played that game, using single groups of lings+defiler here and there to force free to hesitate about committing to any attack, allowing him more time to position lurkers and subsequently the rest of his army. There was a point around when free was considering pushing up the left of the map and HoeJJa feinted his expansion at 5 with a lingdefiler group and you could see free's army moving back and forth, completely unsure where to proceed.
Nobody cares that the PandaBearGuy is not a panda bear, it's part of the joke. Also the "curse" does not apply to PL, only GOM games, and not even that anymore. Plus it's not funny anymore, it's overused.
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On April 29 2009 06:19 Shikyo wrote: These carnivorous animals hunt in the icy water for food. Instances of attacks on humans are rare, but the few recorded instances of an enraged ursadon attack have always ended in tragedy.
darn why can't ursadons attack when provoked :'(