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[WL] Playoffs: KTF vs OZ - Page 3

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Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
March 22 2009 03:09 GMT
#41
So the calendar is an hour off? Might explain why the stream is showing some old KTF vs eSTRO match.
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 03:10:06
March 22 2009 03:09 GMT
#42
TL calendar fails.
RIP eSTRO :(
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
March 22 2009 03:18 GMT
#43
On March 22 2009 12:06 johanes wrote:
the calendar, again, i just woke up, its 4am and games start an hour later...

qft, but its my damm faul, i actually read that its at 5 but forgot to move the clock >.>
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
March 22 2009 03:19 GMT
#44
i'm praying so hard for a working stream tonight
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
March 22 2009 03:21 GMT
#45
Honeslty, I just want to see some great games from Jaedong (Hopefully JD/Flash on Chupung and its a great game), because thre is no real rivalry between the teams and I cant see myself not being happy for KTF if they win, both teams are great and have just as much reason to be in the finals.

Dont get me wrong though - I'm still an Oz fan - Flash and Co. are going down.
Writerman what
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 03:42:39
March 22 2009 03:22 GMT
#46
Man, I'm so glad this is at 13:00...means I can watch without staying up ridiculously late! (but I guess 12:00 would have been better )

Here are some predictions:

(Z)HoeJJa < (Z)Jaedong
ZvZ is less about preparation than skill...and HoeJJa is way out of his league here. But how clutch would it be if he won? That'd basically be match to KTF.

(T)fOrGG < (Z)Jaedong
The middle of this map pool is wildly Terran-friendly, so this is when we'll see KTF send out Flash and fOrGG - my Only doubt is the order they'll come out in. I think KTF will save their best for Last, and send fOrGG first. Obviously, this is a great grudge match (both for fOrGG having left Hwaseung and for their MSL final not so long ago). JD won't choke this time.

Edit: Medusa isn't exactly the best map for TvZ, but consider this: KTF's best three players (other than HoeJJa) are clearly fOrGG, Flash, and Lux. Sending Lux to ZvZ against JD would just be a ridiculous decision here, considering that it's the only MU he would be an underdog in in this match. And KTF's Protosses + map benefits are still worse than fOrGG - map imba.

(T)Flash > (Z)Jaedong
SCR and RH3 on deck? Flash will absolutely be off the bench by this point. Whether or not KTF plans to send fOrGG first, Flash will be practicing his ass off for this map. Obviously this is a complete tossup, but I am picking Flash just because he has nothing to do other than practice for this match.

(T)Flash > (T)Lomo
This set will see either HiyA or Lomo from Hwaseung. Now that HiyA is clearly OZ's second-best player, I think they will save him for later. Lomo fits better in the sniper role, since he hasn't been very active lately and may have been practicing to beat Flash for weeks now. Also, remember that Lomo took Flash's TvT to the edge in their MSL series. Still, I think Flash is just miles ahead of everyone else in this MU right now. Losses to Up and Leta in OSL/MSL were simply a product of having too many games too close together.

(T)Flash < (P)Young
Colosseum is Where Flash needs to be worried, I think. He's suffered quite a few TvP upsets here and I see another one coming. Young is OZ's best choice for 4th slot, assuming BackHo is still out of commission (even if he's healthy, he's likely rusty). Of course, the problem with playing a Protoss here is that Neo Harmony is up next and I almost guarantee KTF will still have Luxury in the bank at this point (they will NOT send him against JD except as a last resort)....

(Z)Luxury > (P)Young
Time for Lux to come out - the Last 2 maps are very good for Zerg and Lux knows them like the back of his hand in all 3 MUs, considering they were all over his MSL run.

(Z)Luxury < (T)HiyA
Yes I know Destination is a bit tricky for TvZ, but if OZ is leaving Lomo and Young to take out Flash, they can have HiyA preparing for this set. I think Lux will lose because...well, he's been winning a bit too much lately. Someone is going to adapt to his style eventually. Why not tonight?
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pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
March 22 2009 03:23 GMT
#47
TL calendar says in 40 mins.. is it right or later??
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 22 2009 03:24 GMT
#48
On March 22 2009 12:23 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
TL calendar says in 40 mins.. is it right or later??


It's right - from the contents of this thread, I think it used to say 12:00 (which was incorrect).

This match is at 13:00 KST.
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candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
March 22 2009 03:25 GMT
#49
I don't think they can use ForGG until the next WL season.
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
March 22 2009 03:26 GMT
#50
yah, said 12:00 a bit ago... i was happy that i was going to bed earlier...

but alas...
I feel like pwning noobs
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
March 22 2009 03:26 GMT
#51
On March 22 2009 12:24 JWD wrote:
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On March 22 2009 12:23 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
TL calendar says in 40 mins.. is it right or later??


It's right - from the contents of this thread, I think it used to say 12:00 (which was incorrect).

This match is at 13:00 KST.


04.30am here in Madrid. Hope to get to see the matches in 30 mins, cos I dont believe I´m gonna be awake couple more hours
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 22 2009 03:27 GMT
#52
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89894

Check that topic out if you haven't already - Smix translated the pre-match interviews.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 03:33:17
March 22 2009 03:29 GMT
#53
(Z)HoeJJa < (Z)Jaedong on Andromeda
(Z)Luxury < (Z)Jaedong on Medusa
(T)Flash/(T)fOrGG > (Z)Jaedong on Chupung
(T)Flash/(T)fOrGG > (T)HiyA on RH3
Massacre after that.

(T)Flash would probably finish the series IMO, whether or not (T)fOrGG comes out.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
March 22 2009 03:30 GMT
#54
fOrGG vs Jaedong will be orgasmic!!!
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 03:33:47
March 22 2009 03:32 GMT
#55
On March 22 2009 12:25 candlejackisgonn wrote:
I don't think they can use ForGG until the next WL season.


That's what the original report said, but the updated news is that he is eligible as of this match (he just couldn't appear for KTF against T1):

On March 15 2009 16:52 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview)
- 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지
▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다.
-are you considering using forgg for the playoffs?
forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg
(worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)


This news has been corroborated by multiple knowledgeable sources, ignore anyone who tries to tell you that fOrGG is not eligible for this match. I mean hell, he appeared in uniform on KTF's bench during the T1 match.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 03:34:20
March 22 2009 03:33 GMT
#56
HoeJJa < Jaedong
Tempest < Jaedong
Flash > Jaedong
Flash > Lomo
Flash > Young
Flash > Hiya

I expect a repetition of their WL match. If FLash takes down Jaedong I don't believe Lecaf can stop him. Even if Hiya will take down Flash, KTF has Luxury who is more than capable of closing the match in KTF favour.


konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
March 22 2009 03:35 GMT
#57
Going by map stats, I predict something like this

Hoejja <Andromeda> Jaedong
Tempest <Medusa> Jaedong
Flash <Shin Chupung Ryung> Jaedong
forGG <Rush Hour III> Jaedong
POGGERS
fOrTT
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States123 Posts
March 22 2009 03:41 GMT
#58
damn i cant get any of these streams working. anyone else having problems?
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 22 2009 03:42 GMT
#59
On March 22 2009 12:41 fOrTT wrote:
damn i cant get any of these streams working. anyone else having problems?


Haven't started yet. Try in 15 minuntes
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
March 22 2009 03:44 GMT
#60
On March 22 2009 12:42 Lebesgue wrote:
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On March 22 2009 12:41 fOrTT wrote:
damn i cant get any of these streams working. anyone else having problems?


Haven't started yet. Try in 15 minuntes

well vlc one is up 24/7, you can hop in already! :o
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