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[WL] Playoffs: KTF vs SKT - Page 87

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ronibez
Profile Joined March 2009
Hungary182 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1721
it is BeSt's time
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1722
As likely as Best will come out, I'm hoping for Boxer
blabberrrrr
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1723
That was a good game. And we have an epic ace match
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1724
best has no chance against luxury, given his current form :\
Writerptrk
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1725
On March 15 2009 15:52 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 15:51 Qwertify wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:40 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:33 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:29 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss"

if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol

i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly


BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT.


I fully agree with this. Fantasy knew the chances of him winning by playing standard were low. His cheese was a calculated risk that paid off.

are you serious? 8 rax in mid in TvT ONLY beats 14cc, not a standard build


Did you read what I wrote? I implied that if Fantasy played FlaSh straight up he would have lost. That's why he decided to cheese; there was a probability that FlaSh would 14cc and he got lucky.

did you read what i wrote?

14cc is far more risky and cheesy than proxy 8 rax in TvT. nothing dies to 8 rax except 14cc, plenty of players have defended 8 rax with standard rax timing, and the 8 rax player is behind. in fact, what's hilarious is if flash played standard, as the better player should do, he would've won not the other way around. its just ironic that you are all pissy at fantasy when it's 100% flash's own fault for losing.

again, to repeat: in TvT, 8 rax is far less risky and cheesy than 14cc.


Don't put words in my mouth. Who said I was pissed off?

You're trying to blow smoke when there's nothing there. I'm not arguing with you, I'm stating that Fantasy's decision to go 8 rax was because he knew Flash was the better player.

you are arguing that Fantasy's build was risky cheese while completely ignoring flash's build, which is more risky and stupid. if fantasy had a "low chance" to beat him playing standard, why didn't Flash play standard? why did flash try to take a completely unnecessary risk when he could just play standard and win since fantasy is so much worse than him like you say?

PS the last time they played on colosseum, Fantasy beat Flash. Maybe Flash didn't want to play standard and did a risky 14cc cheese build because that's the only way he would've beaten Fantasy???


As far as the 8 rax vs. the 14cc builds go, for me it is always hard to tell, which one might be cheese and which one is not. That is because Pro players can do really crazy things with builds that seem risky. I know sAviOr depends heavily on his ling micro while he builds up his economy. From what I see, Flash seems to do the same thing with his 14CC build. Nevertheless, I'm wrong to the extent with this view in that Flash should know better than to use a build where he has been foiled many times before, namely with Jaedong. Still, if he went with that build, regardless of his televised matches, it may be that this build is highly effective for him in practice.

Please just let this thing go. PLEASE


am i the only one who has trouble figuring out who said what in these giant quote chains?

hahahahh
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
abakben
Profile Joined April 2007
United States308 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1726
Boxer or OOV please.
Three big B's (BEST-BISU-BOXER) fighting for SKT1. All we need is a good zerg to dominate the Proleague:)
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51521 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1727
im going to be laughing if its someone like hyuk
Commentator
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1728
Boxer or oov please?
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
March 15 2009 06:54 GMT
#1729
[image loading]
Aegraen #1 Fan!
Fobbish
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Korea (South)1071 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1730
chance park!
강함은 타고나는 것이 아니라 만들어 지는 것이다! - 외인구단
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1731
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=16&part=games&vs=190&league=any&map=any&from_year=2006&from_month=8&from_day=5&to_year=2009&to_month=3&to_day=13&action=Update

5game winstreak incoming IMO
✌
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1732
On March 15 2009 15:54 GTR wrote:
im going to be laughing if its someone like hyuk


I'd be laughing more if someone like Hyuk actually won.
God Bless
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6995 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1733
On March 15 2009 15:54 Puosu wrote:
liveongame.gscdn dead, any other VLC streams available?~

its back
brjdrb
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States577 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1734
come on lux! save ktf and show us a good zvp!
Stork's biggest fan
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1735
Hyuk ZvZ snipe imo.
the courage to be a lazy bum
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1736
What a great series this has been (minus cheese), I hope the rest of the play offs are this good.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 15 2009 06:55 GMT
#1737
Who's playing for SKT?
Super serious.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 15 2009 06:56 GMT
#1738
On March 15 2009 15:55 ZoW wrote:
Hyuk ZvZ snipe imo.


Even less chance of winning than Best ~_~
Writerptrk
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
March 15 2009 06:56 GMT
#1739
I hope MIdas.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 15 2009 06:56 GMT
#1740
On March 15 2009 15:55 ZoW wrote:
Hyuk ZvZ snipe imo.

Lux has the 2nd highest ELO in ZvZ, next to Jaedong.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
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