[WL] Playoffs: KTF vs SKT

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JIJIyO

Canada1957 Posts

March 15 2009 06:56 GMT

#1741

Hyuk or Mujuk. Fo sho.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

March 15 2009 06:57 GMT

#1742

Send out TheZerg!!!

Lebesgue

4542 Posts

March 15 2009 06:57 GMT

#1743

On March 15 2009 15:56 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:

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Lux has the 2nd highest ELO in ZvZ, next to Jaedong.

I am pretty sure that was joke

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

March 15 2009 06:57 GMT

#1744

I think Hyuk is their best bet.

eatmyshorts5

United States1530 Posts

March 15 2009 06:57 GMT

#1745

On March 15 2009 15:56 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:

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Lux has the 2nd highest ELO in ZvZ, next to Jaedong.

Wow way to miss the sarcasm. *Que facepalm

Coffee

United Kingdom347 Posts

March 15 2009 06:57 GMT

#1746

all my stream options are dead!!!!!!!!!

Cambium

United States16368 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1747

best

Orbifold

United States1922 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1748

I wish they could send out Bisu again.

maareek

United States2042 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1749

Fantasy might have had a chance to win that game if his micro had been better. Honestly, he threw away so many marines that shouldn't have been - it was really frustrating. Very nice attacks by lux, though. He looked to be out for blood this game.

KreaGata

United States1702 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1750

You've got this Luxury. Prove your mettle!

OSWater

United States1343 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1751

god damn it

ZoW

United States3983 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1752

Best, please don't fail =(

NovaTheFeared

United States7232 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1753

Best for SKT.

poor newb

United States1879 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1754

its time to bring out boxer dammit

Random_0

United States1163 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1755

And it's Best!

imDerek

United States1944 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1756

okay best, skt is relying on you now!!

._.

1133 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1757

hey look its best..the bane of luxury's existence :D

ShloobeR

Korea (South)3829 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1758

Well

lux recently said that he wants to prove that his ZvP is improved a lot

now is your chance

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1759

On March 15 2009 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:

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On March 15 2009 15:40 StylishVODs wrote:

On March 15 2009 15:38 Hot_Bid wrote:

On March 15 2009 15:33 Shengster wrote:

On March 15 2009 15:30 Hot_Bid wrote:

On March 15 2009 15:29 Shengster wrote:

On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote:

On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss"

if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol

i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly

BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT.

I fully agree with this. Fantasy knew the chances of him winning by playing standard were low. His cheese was a calculated risk that paid off.

are you serious? 8 rax in mid in TvT ONLY beats 14cc, not a standard build

Did you read what I wrote? I implied that if Fantasy played FlaSh straight up he would have lost. That's why he decided to cheese; there was a probability that FlaSh would 14cc and he got lucky.

did you read what i wrote?

14cc is far more risky and cheesy than proxy 8 rax in TvT. nothing dies to 8 rax except 14cc, plenty of players have defended 8 rax with standard rax timing, and the 8 rax player is behind. in fact, what's hilarious is if flash played standard, as the better player should do, he would've won not the other way around. its just ironic that you are all pissy at fantasy when it's 100% flash's own fault for losing.

again, to repeat: in TvT, 8 rax is far less risky and cheesy than 14cc.

How can 14cc be more cheesy than 8rax?

8rax beats 1 thing
14cc beats alot of things

hence 8rax is more cheesy.

However i agree that flash shouldn't 14cc when he's the better player. It was stupid of him.

i completely disagree

8 rax is far more adaptable and recoverable into standard play than 14cc is. plenty of players have failed 8 rax and still recovered in TvT, where a 14cc is autoloss. the build thats flexible and survivable against more possibilities in this situation is the less risky/cheesy build.

you realize that 12 hatch hard counters nothing (hence beats 0 things) in ZvT ZvP right? and 4 pool beats 1 thing, that means 12h is more cheesy than 4pool? your logic is seriously flawed.

I think you're misunderstanding me.
with my logic it means that 4 pool is the cheesier build the same way as im implying that 8rax is the cheesier build.

12hatch is economical and only gets autoloss vs a really agressive BBS terran opening.
14cc is economical and only gets autoloss vs a really agressive prox 8rax or prox dualrax terran opening.

traced

1739 Posts

March 15 2009 06:58 GMT

#1760

ahhh best do it

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