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On January 18 2009 17:29 Lebesgue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2009 17:23 []p4NDemik[] wrote: Maps are so rigged for Bisu. Even if he comes in and continues to under perform I'm confident he can still win. The maps are that difficult for TvP. The map pool couldn't be much worse... Andromeda Destination Colosseum II Medusa Andromed GG SkyHigh. Too bad Actually, I've noticed that GOM always has horrible map picks. In all the rounds the maps have been really rigged or just stupid (Neo Requiem... god I hate that map so much). Someone should tell GOM that proleague maps are a different thing than individual league maps. in Proleague a map like Neo Requiem doesn't matter, just put a Protoss out there. But in individual leagues, the Protoss gets almost a free win vs Terran on there. It's just ridiculous. GomTV's map selection is just disgusting, who does it anyway...
How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad.
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On January 18 2009 17:40 himurakenshin wrote: hey everybody; once again I was wondering is there any way to watch these games on a mac?
If you can get the stream URL, you can watch it using VLC player.
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On January 18 2009 17:34 SnowFantasy wrote:I really want bisu to win because I like him. I reallly want skyhigh to win because a terran in the finals would be fun. Skyhigh is screwed considering the map pool though. 
My thoughts too. =)
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This maps are so lame, next time if they give maps like this they should just put all protoss GOM and they can have fun..
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On January 18 2009 17:41 Shikyo wrote:
How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad.
Both players got to veto 1 map. Bisu veto'd Sin Chupung-Ryeong and skyhigh veto'd neo requiem
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On January 18 2009 17:45 Tadzio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2009 17:41 Shikyo wrote:
How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad. Both players got to veto 1 map. Bisu veto'd Sin Chupung-Ryeong and skyhigh veto'd neo requiem What, neo requiem was in the map pool??? Wow, that's DISGUSTING. Hey, let's have raid assault 2 too -_-;;
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Hopefully, Bisu won't fuck up this time. I voted for Skyhigh though
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On January 18 2009 17:41 Shikyo wrote: How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad.
Stats-wise, Andromeda is 28-25 PvT. Agree on the other three choices.
Neo Harmony has less than a 30% winrate for P in each matchup. That is slightly worse for P than Medusa is for T.
Sin Chupung-Ryeong has balanced stats for both P matchups, wouldn't mind seeing that used here.in place of Medusa.
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Hoping Skyhigh puts up a good fight, but at the same time, a 3-0 rape may bring Bisu out of his mini-slump.
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On January 18 2009 17:49 Signet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2009 17:41 Shikyo wrote: How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad. Stats-wise, Andromeda is 28-25 PvT. Agree on the other three choices. Neo Harmony has less than a 30% winrate for P in each matchup. It is even worse for P than Medusa is for T. Sin Chupung-Ryeong has balanced stats for both P matchups, wouldn't mind seeing that used here.in place of Medusa. So isn't Neo Harmony completely fair then, for the sake of balance? That's what I don't get. Imbalanced maps are fine, but why are they all imbalanced for one race? Like, something like Neo harmony, Chupung Ryeong, Andromeda, Destination would be so much better. 2 relatively balanced ones and 2 imbalanced ones for each of the races. Instead they just decide to P>T it all.
I'm just hoping that Skyhigh can put a good performance and hopefully take at least a game. The ideal outcome would be victory, but it's going to be really, really difficult. But GOM... do you really wonder why you have so many Protoss left? *sigh*
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On January 18 2009 17:51 Shikyo wrote: So isn't Neo Harmony completely fair then, for the sake of balance? That's what I don't get. Imbalanced maps are fine, but why are they all imbalanced for one race? Like, something like Neo harmony, Chupung Ryeong, Andromeda, Destination would be so much better. 2 relatively balanced ones and 2 imbalanced ones for each of the races. Instead they just decide to P>T it all. Ah I see what you're saying. Yeah that would be fair to have the imba maps cancel out.
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They should do something like the players get to chose to omit a map or something.
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About the maps,
out of the 7 maps that the proleague has been using, each player has decided on a map they wish NOT to play on. they took out neo requiem and chupungryung because they chose to.
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On January 18 2009 17:53 OSWater wrote: They should do something like the players get to chose to omit a map or something.
They have that. The problem is that Neo Requiem (a Terran graveyard) was in the pool. So obviously SkyHigh chose to drop that map.
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ps. we got a new caster... ^^
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I really don't understand the whole lets-use-neo-requiem-but-not-the-other-oldschool-maps thing either :/ But this isn't the right place for this, sorry. My predictions are gonna be 3-0 Bisu, 3-1 at best. Medusa just feels impossible for T to win on.
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Maybe, just maybe, Bisu screwed up PvZ on the OSL/MSL maps because he practiced his ass off for PvT/PvP on the Gom maps.
Just maybe.
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rooting for skyhigh because of my jealousy of bisu's looks! / i dont want an all toss finals
EDIT: OMG I JUST READ LILSUSIES POST OMGGGG SUPERDANNNNNNNN!!!!!~oneone11
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