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[PL] CJ vs. KTF 12/30/08 - Page 3

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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
December 30 2008 07:40 GMT
#41
On December 30 2008 16:34 Empyrean wrote:
I think it's hilarious that (Z)ZergBong is playing (T)sKyHigh.


Haha I didn't notice that.
Hi.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-30 07:44:38
December 30 2008 07:44 GMT
#42
On December 30 2008 14:44 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 14:39 IdrA wrote:
On December 30 2008 11:14 sung_moon wrote:
On December 30 2008 10:53 gNs.I-Jasa wrote:
i hate how u haev to use every race in proleague. i mean if you have better players then just put those up. who cares about race haha


thats cuz zergs were ALWAYS seen on the 2v2's. i think kespa wanted to show balance by having all 3 races represented with no 2v2. very few teams like CJ, Lecaf,OGN etc. had reliable zergs while just about every team had one or two realiable terrans to fall back on

what
those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment

and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid


i think id include stx and stars with that

zero and ggplay have been anything but reliable. zero has showed flashes of potential, but thats about it.


but seriously, how did you name the teams with 3 of the 4 best proleague zergs as the 3 teams WITHOUT any good zergs
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 30 2008 07:45 GMT
#43
On December 30 2008 16:34 Empyrean wrote:
I think it's hilarious that (Z)ZergBong is playing (T)sKyHigh.


lol I thought of that too. I hope CJ can close this out 3-0......I can dream right? I see Skyhigh and Savior with the most likelyhood of winning. If Movie can work his magic this just might be a great night.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
rA.Hippie
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Denmark714 Posts
December 30 2008 08:00 GMT
#44
YEAH, ZERGBONG BABY :D!!
I love teh shisha.
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
December 30 2008 08:06 GMT
#45
(P)Movie I believe in movie magic.
(Z)EffOrt
Either
(Z)sAviOr
Or
(Z)Luxury
Then
(T)sKyHigh
CJ 3-0
CJ 3-1
Beyond the Game
merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-30 09:05:11
December 30 2008 08:59 GMT
#46
OP needs stream info


http://sportslive.media.daum.net/live_tiny/player.jsp?channel=MBCGAME&league=ESPORTS&game=ESPORTS2008123002&home=ET&away=MN

early i know i know
recca211
Profile Joined December 2008
Vietnam10 Posts
December 30 2008 09:09 GMT
#47
frdegfrsgthuyredwejuyttdyhg
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
December 30 2008 09:14 GMT
#48
The new PL format is good if one of two things happen:
1) The maps are pretty balanced
2) The maps are imbalanced, but generally all towards the same race.

Both of these work to avoid mirrors. If they're balanced, different teams will put different raced specialists on each maps (so about 1/3 of each race would be specialists on each map, and you'd get mirrors 1/3rd the time). If they're imbalanced towards the same race (arguably multiple ones towards P this season), it balances out since you can't field the strong race on every map, and due to randomness the Ps will only line up 1/3 the time (slightly more cause more teams will field 2 Ps).

On the other hand if they are imbalanced so that there's a 60% terran map and a 60% zerg map, etc, there will be even more mirrors than without the rule. Every team has to put out each race, so they wouldn't risk their weaker race on anything but the map that favors them, so you'll get 2-3 mirrors in each match. Without the rule, but with maps imbalanced like this, the 2nd and 3rd best of a team's strong race will likely be good enough to overcome the imbalance. For example, they might play their second best P on a 60% Zerg map, just because they don't have a good zerg and don't HAVE to put one out. Because each team is weak in different races, it then balances out quite nicely for avoiding mirrors.

At least that's my theory, if I worded it so anyone could understand.
I <3 서지훈
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 30 2008 09:24 GMT
#49
On December 30 2008 16:44 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 14:44 sung_moon wrote:
On December 30 2008 14:39 IdrA wrote:
On December 30 2008 11:14 sung_moon wrote:
On December 30 2008 10:53 gNs.I-Jasa wrote:
i hate how u haev to use every race in proleague. i mean if you have better players then just put those up. who cares about race haha


thats cuz zergs were ALWAYS seen on the 2v2's. i think kespa wanted to show balance by having all 3 races represented with no 2v2. very few teams like CJ, Lecaf,OGN etc. had reliable zergs while just about every team had one or two realiable terrans to fall back on

what
those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment

and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid


i think id include stx and stars with that

zero and ggplay have been anything but reliable. zero has showed flashes of potential, but thats about it.


but seriously, how did you name the teams with 3 of the 4 best proleague zergs as the 3 teams WITHOUT any good zergs


he didn't. He said OGN lecaf and CJ was the only teams with reliable zergs.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
December 30 2008 09:26 GMT
#50
On December 30 2008 16:34 Empyrean wrote:
I think it's hilarious that (Z)ZergBong is playing (T)sKyHigh.



rofl qft
savior did nothing wrong
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
December 30 2008 09:26 GMT
#51
On December 30 2008 17:59 merach wrote:
OP needs stream info


http://sportslive.media.daum.net/live_tiny/player.jsp?channel=MBCGAME&league=ESPORTS&game=ESPORTS2008123002&home=ET&away=MN

early i know i know



sweet thanks for the link
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
December 30 2008 09:28 GMT
#52
Sweet, both Daum Sports streams running perfectly. I hope this lasts through the night.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2008 09:28 GMT
#53
On December 30 2008 18:24 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 16:44 IdrA wrote:
On December 30 2008 14:44 sung_moon wrote:
On December 30 2008 14:39 IdrA wrote:
On December 30 2008 11:14 sung_moon wrote:
On December 30 2008 10:53 gNs.I-Jasa wrote:
i hate how u haev to use every race in proleague. i mean if you have better players then just put those up. who cares about race haha


thats cuz zergs were ALWAYS seen on the 2v2's. i think kespa wanted to show balance by having all 3 races represented with no 2v2. very few teams like CJ, Lecaf,OGN etc. had reliable zergs while just about every team had one or two realiable terrans to fall back on

what
those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment

and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid


i think id include stx and stars with that

zero and ggplay have been anything but reliable. zero has showed flashes of potential, but thats about it.


but seriously, how did you name the teams with 3 of the 4 best proleague zergs as the 3 teams WITHOUT any good zergs


he didn't. He said OGN lecaf and CJ was the only teams with reliable zergs.

oops
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
December 30 2008 09:29 GMT
#54
Haha, when they showed sAviOr there was a pretty fierce scream from the audience.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
ejitoss
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada24 Posts
December 30 2008 09:30 GMT
#55
could i get vlc link? daum isnt streaming for me
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 30 2008 09:31 GMT
#56
aw stream bad for me, well GL Flash. im out
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
December 30 2008 09:34 GMT
#57
no vlc link tonight?
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 30 2008 09:39 GMT
#58
On December 30 2008 18:34 ExSoldier wrote:
no vlc link tonight?


I haven't seen Corinthos around, so i guess not
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 30 2008 09:40 GMT
#59
On December 30 2008 18:34 ExSoldier wrote:
no vlc link tonight?

seems like there won't be. It is on MBC and unless Corinthos wil save us there is no hope for it...
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 30 2008 09:43 GMT
#60
Colosseum II

Flash (T) top left

Movie (P) bottom right

Cross map positions
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