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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 30 2008 11:51 GMT
#481
On December 30 2008 09:27 Sunyveil wrote:
Was still bored.

Predictions:
(T)Flash
(Z)EffOrt
(Z)Luxury
(T)sKyHigh
(P)Movie < (T)Flash

CJ 2:3 Kay-tep


ehhh, pretty darn close
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
December 30 2008 11:52 GMT
#482
Fuck yeah flash, nice work man
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
December 30 2008 11:52 GMT
#483
On December 30 2008 11:01 KreaGata wrote:
(T)Flash
(Z)EffOrt
(Z)Luxury
(T)sKyHigh
(Z)EffOrt < (T)Flash

3 - 2 KTF


Woot, 100%.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6991 Posts
December 30 2008 11:52 GMT
#484
On December 30 2008 20:50 monstar123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 20:49 SimonB wrote:
Fantastic win from Flash. Effort did not play poorly, but Flash just seemed in control even after the failed bunker rush.


LOL it was fake bunker rush

fake bunke rush? it wasnt..
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
December 30 2008 11:53 GMT
#485
V_V Why would you not attack move everywhere especially when you know mines are out? And why would you still go mutas when 2 goliaths murdered your overlord before any mutas are out? GAH!! Effort!
Wake up Mr. B!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 30 2008 11:53 GMT
#486
On December 30 2008 20:50 monstar123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 20:49 SimonB wrote:
Fantastic win from Flash. Effort did not play poorly, but Flash just seemed in control even after the failed bunker rush.


LOL it was fake bunker rush


no it wasn't.

It was an expo delay rush into a low eco vulture, so the hat won't be down for long when the vulture comes. Flash didn't play to have 2 marines blocked from entering the block (1killed 1 turned around)

This build is fucking dope, I think its gay more terrans don't use it.

It fucks up zerg timming so much, and the only direct counter, is 3 hat speedling before lair, which is hard to do since 2portwraith with vulture defence will own your bones.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
December 30 2008 11:54 GMT
#487
On December 30 2008 20:50 monstar123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 20:49 SimonB wrote:
Fantastic win from Flash. Effort did not play poorly, but Flash just seemed in control even after the failed bunker rush.


LOL it was fake bunker rush

it was built with rine in it

anyway upmagic's bunker metal's damn strong on this map
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
December 30 2008 11:54 GMT
#488
Yeah, it's a nasty ass build. It's a shame lots of Upmagic's creations don't get played by players with better mechanics. I think they'd fare very well.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
December 30 2008 11:55 GMT
#489
Why smbd cant give Effort an opportunity to play swarm play ? His play againts mech. is poor. But his play againts bionic is perfect. Light,Upmagic and now Flash killed him with mech
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2008 11:55 GMT
#490
On December 30 2008 20:53 ccou wrote:
V_V Why would you not attack move everywhere especially when you know mines are out? And why would you still go mutas when 2 goliaths murdered your overlord before any mutas are out? GAH!! Effort!

mutas are fine vs goliath, theyre the best counter actually. especially on a map like that. if you go ground t will just abuse the hell out of you and turtle with vult tank till theyre invincible.

problem was he was stuck at low econ cuz of the openings and you cant play with low econ vs mech.
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SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
December 30 2008 11:55 GMT
#491
I guess that's true that it wasn't "failed" so much because it succeeded in delaying the natural expo for a while.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 30 2008 11:56 GMT
#492
The build, 6 rax is actually something Mind did at the start of the mech revolution.

He has another one rax on 8-gas on 9, factory on ten he did this one vs ggplay on req on gomtv

FBH tried to use the same build for a super fast vulture TvT and failed hard
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 30 2008 11:58 GMT
#493
On December 30 2008 20:55 SimonB wrote:
I guess that's true that it wasn't "failed" so much because it succeeded in delaying the natural expo for a while.


Yes the rax delayed the hat which delays eco, the vulture does damage/wins the game or delays, that way the timing for mutas is useless. I love clever terran play.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
December 30 2008 11:59 GMT
#494
if only lux wins all of his games...
Woo Jung Ho
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 30 2008 12:08 GMT
#495
i feel like shouting imba terran.

Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-30 12:18:16
December 30 2008 12:10 GMT
#496
On December 30 2008 20:56 AttackZerg wrote:
The build, 6 rax is actually something Mind did at the start of the mech revolution.

He has another one rax on 8-gas on 9, factory on ten he did this one vs ggplay on req on gomtv

FBH tried to use the same build for a super fast vulture TvT and failed hard


mind never bunker rushed

anyway effort got beat by this twice now, god his next vT I wanna see this if he smashes / gets smashed again
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 30 2008 12:13 GMT
#497
Great play from Flash today. Good for my fantasy team. Also I am happy to see that Luxury still can win. And as expected ZergBong turned out to be a huge fail.

Actually I just realised that in all 5 games players from my fantasy team played and in all 5 they won. Yay
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
December 30 2008 12:19 GMT
#498
Question now is can Luxury win any OTHER matchup, or is KTFlash doomed to many 3-1's to come....
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-30 14:42:41
December 30 2008 14:33 GMT
#499
Went exactly as expected.

Please, KTF, get some depth so you actually have a non-zero chance to win PL.

It's just painful to watch KTF use the same "strategy" again and again when it's doomed to failure in PL finals, and will only lead to Flash being worn out for the individual leagues just when we need a strong TvPer the most.
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
December 30 2008 14:56 GMT
#500
wow ! come on savior win f*cuking game !
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