Honestly, this doesn't look good for WeMade, but each match Only slightly favors CJ, and who knows what'll happen, Last time I was almost completely wrong with my predictions!
I have a feeling this thread will be overrun with CJ fans, where are you WeMade fans? Nvm, I see them. I'm going to add a poll to make this thread more "interactive".
Poll: Who are you cheering for/think will win? Mind's Team Zerg Team
On December 21 2008 13:28 iLoveKTF wrote: whats up with that lineup wemade...
Mind had the Classic tonight and their coach didn't want to overwork him? In that case though it wouldn't have been the first time a coach has played a player in PL the same day as the Classic.
Anyways these days if WeMade doesn't play Mind in their lineup they're in bad shape, so things are looking pretty good for CJ. sAviOr + new kids ftw!
Daum sports works fine for me but whenever I click anywhere on the web browser window, or hit any hotkey (to change tabs etc.) it immediately fucks me and claims that I have to login. Does this happen to everyone?
Edit: Point being, I cannot fullscreen. I just had to open another browser window and move it out of the way so I can see the tiny tiny embedded player.
poor kid at least we know that savior still got it, he could have been a little less dominating though that kinda rape is gonna leave mental scars (and physical ones?)...
On December 21 2008 14:34 Dazed_Spy wrote: sorry...I like CJ and all, skyhigh looks like an alright guy, but I really want Pure to win- and get out of this slump already.
That makes two of us. (I have this guy on my fantasy team as well T.T)
Skyhigh's last game vs Kal was awesome. He totally went crazy aggro like Iris style and just picked the smartest places to fight. Kal couldn't handle the pressure.
Colloseum will be a slow match, but Pure hasn't shown shit since his strong debut.
nice scv micro, i dont think he lost anything but the rine in that little harassment pure sets up his nexus, skyhigh's seige finishes, and it looks like pure's gonna quickly double expand
On December 21 2008 14:43 alphafuzard wrote: very fast armory for skyhigh, it finishes as he starts his 2nd factory looks like both players are gonna chill and macrofest for a few minutes
armory this fast is pretty standard on colo, terrans plan for 200/200 and want to get to +3 asap
3rd cc starts for skyhigh 3 vults probing around the map for a way in to pure's probes, but it looks like his d is solid skyhigh leaves the vults to watch for later expos starport finishing for skyhigh skyhigh moves out to take his 3rd expo
science facility and 2nd armory, clearly a heavy upgrade timing attack based build pure's arbiter tribunal morphing, as he takes bottom right expansion to put the expansion counts at 4 for pure and 3 for skyhigh
Terran's flow(?) this game is better. Pure has forgotten that you should generally harass most terrans as their econs boom. Also, Skyhigh has faster ups.
Once the factories and Armories kick in, Pure will be in trouble.
drop quickly cleaned up, and the first arbiter is out for skyhigh skyhigh still not moving out, i would think his 2-1 would be done by now it seems he is waiting for 200/200 3-3
skyhigh lays a bunch of mines in his main to watch out for a recall
pure maneuvering, and recalls into sky highs 3rd the cc goes down, but sky highs forces continue to press forward, it looks like he can clean up the recall with only spawned units
skyhigh losing tons of scvs if pure can kill skyhigh's force, it will be gg pure has the leftover gates from his main that skyhigh didn't finish, as well as the gates at 5:00
sky high pushing into 5:00, but a nice stasis delays him
On December 21 2008 14:56 Dazed_Spy wrote: finally pure gets a bit of respite from this vicious slump of his.
Well, to be fair, his opponent's were pretty good.
Yeah he has been getting wailed on lately, especially considering how good his performance was last season. He even got a spot on power rank didn't he?
On December 21 2008 15:03 Qwertify wrote: Well with skyHigh's loss, we at least get to see movie play.
BTW, is he no longer part of the by. clan? I noticed that it was removed from his name.
Well that's not really it, like some progamers remove the tags. When they play proleague, starleagues, etc they are playing for their team, not their clans.
SaviOr is [gm] but you rarely see him use the tag on lan. But you always see him as awd[gm] when he practices online.
effort very nice ZvZ, 8-2 total with wins over saint and calm recently
keke has a worse 6-7 ZvZ record, but is 5-1 in recent games and is on a 4 game ZvZ winstreak with two wins over Zero and one over Luxury (very impressive)
On December 21 2008 15:03 Qwertify wrote: Well with skyHigh's loss, we at least get to see movie play.
BTW, is he no longer part of the by. clan? I noticed that it was removed from his name.
Well that's not really it, like some progamers remove the tags. When they play proleague, starleagues, etc they are playing for their team, not their clans.
SaviOr is [gm] but you rarely see him use the tag on lan. But you always see him as awd[gm] when he practices online.
(or were your referring to something on the stream?)
No, I just noticed that on the CJ team page, by.Movie was always next to by.Snow, but then he moved up the list suddenly. Then I saw that his name was changed to just Movie. So I thought that he left the clan.
(or were your referring to something on the stream?)
No, I just noticed that on the CJ team page, by.Movie was always next to by.Snow, but then he moved up the list suddenly. Then I saw that his name was changed to just Movie. So I thought that he left the clan.
YGosu has brainclan and west clans roaster, i don't know if they are updated A LOT. But i guess it helps:
scratch that it was a 9 hatch i think, keke getting pool and gas
efforts lair starts immediately when his pool is finished, its seriously way faster than kekes and due to the scouring randomness keke won't see it until really late
(or were your referring to something on the stream?)
No, I just noticed that on the CJ team page, by.Movie was always next to by.Snow, but then he moved up the list suddenly. Then I saw that his name was changed to just Movie. So I thought that he left the clan.
YGosu has brainclan and west clans roaster, i don't know if they are updated A LOT. But i guess it helps:
(or were your referring to something on the stream?)
No, I just noticed that on the CJ team page, by.Movie was always next to by.Snow, but then he moved up the list suddenly. Then I saw that his name was changed to just Movie. So I thought that he left the clan.
YGosu has brainclan and west clans roaster, i don't know if they are updated A LOT. But i guess it helps:
keke with lower muta numbers but making scourge, effort only has 5-6 muta so scourge are skill very scary, now effort lsoes a few muta to scourge and keke's strafes, keke looks comfortably ahead now
nice forked attack by effort kills drones and damages spire in keke's main while effort kills drones at keke's natural, that caught him up a little but keke still has gas advantage
after that initial win in the first or second battle, if keke just stayed at his main, defended the two gas, and got more mutas, i don't see what effort would've done
instead keke attacks and allows his main to get countered
effort with clutch decision making and micro when it got into the elimination game stage
movie 1-0 career in pvz (win against zero, not counting minor league games) shine with 0 televised zvps, and he's 0-2 overall (losses against iris and really)
complete coinflip in this game, though movie has more proleague experience
naz same for me, i have skyhigh, effort and movie but iw ant savior to win so bad and skyhigh too. But this gives me more chances of effort acing now. I have pure anyway, so skyhigh losing doesnt hurt me much
fourth hatch going up for shine now, lurkers are out and killing the temples, but movie is adding cannons at the upper ground to stop that kind of attack
movie lost his sairs in the meantime, and a ton of hydras are now flooding through the back temple entrance, not sure if movie can hold, he loses the reaver and many hydra in his main now
heres the thing...I had no idea who that was when he was sent out. Even though I've seen sky highs games before. Evidence that he is far too new to be playing an ace match. -_-
On December 21 2008 15:59 wtflah wrote: Why is savior the only one in a the black uniform as opposed to the white? Clearly because he's a badass (esp in that uniform) but it is a bit odd.
Their all wearing various uniforms
xellos and much are both wearing the GO jackets and shirts
that black shirt is the one savior wore at his peak, so maybe its good luck
Whatever i trust coach cho. Everytime i bitch about his picks he pulls sick shit like 4-3 comeback vs MBC, where he sent fucking darkelf to snipe Sea. Or vs OGN where he sent slumping saviOr to ZvZ ace match vs lux.
funfact: Apparently Wemade always had a terrible record against CJ and the coach kept trying to look for a new way to beat CJ. If CJ loses today CJ will be 11th place.
Um, do you guys realize that it was SkyHigh who kicked Mind 2:1 out of this MSL (or MST) a couple days ago? Considering this and the map, it was probably the best choice.
And btw. - GO MIND!!! It is like the third ace win for him in a row?
On December 21 2008 16:39 shavingcream66 wrote: at least savior won
my words exactly
C'mon.. against BABY for crying out loud. He couldn't begin to embody the name "Ma Bonjwa" ever again if he lost vs. BaBy. Although Baby beat Much not too long ago, right?
someone please tell me why the fuck skyhigh for ace? like just what the fuck. what the fuck cj manager, what the fuck. out of that entire stacked roster you pick untested newbie bitch and lose it? fucking a --a
On December 21 2008 16:39 shavingcream66 wrote: at least savior won
my words exactly
C'mon.. against BABY for crying out loud. He couldn't begin to embody the name "Ma Bonjwa" ever again if he lost vs. BaBy. Although Baby beat Much not too long ago, right?
Still, my point stands! :D
baby isnt that bad. he's maturing pretty well actually ;o and sadly, i think savior's dropped some games against worse than baby at least once or twice. but he's still and forever will be ma bonjwa =x
and to ppl who said terran favored map so skyhigh. why not iris?!? ;ddd
On December 21 2008 23:04 NahLGaE wrote: and to ppl who said terran favored map so skyhigh. why not iris?!? ;ddd
Maybe because last time they met, SkyHigh kicked Mind out of MSL/MST? Do you people even know that?
And maybe because SkyHigh totally owns Iris every time they practice? Yes, that's just a speculation, but do you really think the coach would send SkyHigh if he weren't confident in his abilities on this map? Seriously?
On December 21 2008 23:02 NahLGaE wrote: someone please tell me why the fuck skyhigh for ace? like just what the fuck. what the fuck cj manager, what the fuck. out of that entire stacked roster you pick untested newbie bitch and lose it? fucking a --a
sKyHigh is the future of terran in CJ, and he is not that bad. Iris might have been a good choice too, but his ultra aggressive style might have crashed against Mind's step-by-step-solid style. Pure desperately needed a win and Mind is on fire. sKyHigh just happened to bump into them today. I think CJ will be tanking this season and go for it the next one.
On December 21 2008 23:04 NahLGaE wrote: and to ppl who said terran favored map so skyhigh. why not iris?!? ;ddd
Maybe because last time they met, SkyHigh kicked Mind out of MSL/MST? Do you people even know that?
And maybe because SkyHigh totally owns Iris every time they practice? Yes, that's just a speculation, but do you really think the coach would send SkyHigh if he weren't confident in his abilities on this map? Seriously?
Actually, did you know in the CJ house, Iris was practically unbeatable in TvT til less than a year ago? It was on Iris' starbattle/ilovestar/bnetattack something like that -_____-;; He said he's still the best TvT in the CJ house, which is very easy to believe.
On December 22 2008 04:16 SuperJongMan wrote: Actually, did you know in the CJ house, Iris was practically unbeatable in TvT til less than a year ago? It was on Iris' starbattle/ilovestar/bnetattack something like that -_____-;; He said he's still the best TvT in the CJ house, which is very easy to believe.
It's really cuz Chupung is Skyhigh's map.
I have no problems in believing that. I actually like Iris more than SkyHigh (but less than Mind), I just didn't like how almost everybody was bashing CJ couch for this decision...
SkyHigh beat Mind back when Mind was in the slump. Recently he's been playing brilliantly again. Jaehoon beat Mind before, so would MBC send Jaehoon against Mind, or would it be a good idea? Nope. -_- Just like frozean beat jaedong before, so khan should send frozean for ace.... That's just dumb logic. ^_^
you know, i admire it just as much as the next guy when teams have the guts to send out players other than their stars, but _why_ do some of them insist on pissing away what they achieve in the first four games? skt did with fantasy, and now cj with skyhigh. i get it that maybe the player wants to make up for his first loss that day, but don't they realize that this actually works only with _good_ players? who the fuck sends out skyhigh against mind?! why do these idiots get the opportunity to screw their teams over?
On December 22 2008 13:05 Ichigo1234551 wrote: why is savior the only one in his team that wore the black uniform lol everyone else had the white uniform
On December 22 2008 11:03 Shikyo wrote: SkyHigh beat Mind back when Mind was in the slump. Recently he's been playing brilliantly again. Jaehoon beat Mind before, so would MBC send Jaehoon against Mind, or would it be a good idea? Nope. -_- Just like frozean beat jaedong before, so khan should send frozean for ace.... That's just dumb logic. ^_^
Please, open your eyes. What sounds more likely to you:
a) CJ : FOX are 2 : 2. The ace match is incoming. "Oh no, what will I do?!", the CJ coach asks himself. "I've never though about this possibility! Ok, they'll surely send Mind. Who has the best chance against him...umm, ummmm, uhhhmmm...yes, SkyHigh! He beat him a couple of days ago, I will send him!"
b) CJ : FOX are 2 : 2. "Look how I'm gonna piss our fans, let's send SkyHigh! Yeah, he sucks, he has never won any game on this map, he has no chance. But hey, send him...for the lulz!"
c) The CJ coach actually watched/studied/analyzed the games between Mind and SkyHigh (as he watched/studied/analyzed thousands of other games) and he decides that SkyHigh might have a good chance against Mind, if the match between CJ and FOX goes to ace. He then let him practice against his teammates and SkyHigh show really good results - the best results actually. And then, the time has come, he sent him and he lost. That happens.
Really, ask yourself if you are so clever and intelligent that you can make better decision with your awfully limited knowledge about what's going on in CJ practice house.
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