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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:00 Zinbiel wrote: That did very much look like high-level chess to me. Leta content to slowly improve his position and as soon as Sea tried to bust it open he got punished severely. i agree with this. | ||
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Disarray
United States1164 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:00 Plexa wrote: Bosung looks really disappointed with that game and rightly so =/ i dont think i've seen sea this pissed before But hey, Leta 2-1 2-0 as expected seriously steve, sea is no where near PR material atm i had 2 giant gripes with this last PR, and that was one of them | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
 It simply means that your opponent was close in skill level. These two rapes clearly show that Leta was the far supeiror player | ||
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
Is this Royal Road for him, btw? | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:00 Plexa wrote: Bosung looks really disappointed with that game and rightly so =/ i dont think i've seen sea this pissed before But hey, Leta 2-1 2-0 as expected seriously steve, sea is no where near PR material atm you are wrong you are someone who doesn't understand how high above the current standard of TvZ his game against Jaedong was, and how masterful his game against Iris was Sea's spot on December's rank is completely justified, Leta certainly hasn't shown himself capable of games at that level. Yes, this series changes things. The outcome is not predetermined and before this series Sea's placement was correct. He made many, many mistakes in those two games that he really should not be making. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:01 Elsi wrote: Sea was raped badly in that 2nd game T_T Well - I didn't see it, but it seems like he was just too aggresive, and Leta just has absolutely fantastic defense ability. That does seem to be how he wins - defense and heavy macro. Then he inches forward. I'd like to see how he does against Bisu, who is like playing on e8 different parts of the map at once. | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:01 d_so wrote: That did very much look like high-level chess to me. Leta content to slowly improve his position and as soon as Sea tried to bust it open he got punished severely. This. Leta was at no point behind in either game, from start to finish. He secured a small, early advantage and nursed it patiently to the end. The last time I played an expert at chess was fairly similar - I just sort of felt my position falling apart and couldn't do anything whatsoever. It's incredibly demoralizing and Sea just quietly gg'ing probably is representative of how he was feeling. | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
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hymn
Bulgaria832 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:00 Roxen000 wrote: I had such high hopes for Sea this OSL =/// Like in every previous OSL...  | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:05 Tianx wrote: This. Leta was at no point behind in either game, from start to finish. He secured a small, early advantage and nursed it patiently to the end. The last time I played an expert at chess was fairly similar - I just sort of felt my position falling apart and couldn't do anything whatsoever. It's incredibly demoralizing and Sea just quietly gg'ing probably is representative of how he was feeling. yeah it's like he took a one pawn advantage and rode it all the way to victory | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:07 d_so wrote: yeah it's like he took a one pawn advantage and rode it all the way to victory i think about half the active roster of pro terran players would have won those two games given the same build orders - sea played reaaaaaaaally bad god he threw so many scvs away on terrible break attempts | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Steve, i trust you've seen Savior vs Sea on Andromeda right? That game was basically the same as the Jaedong game, except sea made one or two more mistakes and ended up losing from an advantage. Sea managed to hold and on win vs Jaedong - it was an impressive game! However, having a very strong TvZ shouldn't be all you need to get #10 on PR. Leta's achievements across the past month and bit (like his 14-4 record in proleauge) far outweigh Sea's one awesome game. you are wrong you are someone who doesn't understand how high above the current standard of TvZ his game against Jaedong was, and how masterful his game against Iris was Sea's spot on December's rank is completely justified, Leta certainly hasn't shown himself capable of games at that level. Yes, this series changes things. The outcome is not predetermined and before this series Sea's placement was correct. He made many, many mistakes in those two games that he really should not be making. Oh yea, i hope you haven't forgotten about Sea vs EffOrt yet either, that wasn't a pretty game. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
Of cus proleague carries a lil more weight than practice games but when it comes down to ranking individual players, nothing factors in more than individual league performance imo... And in that department, Sea certainly never was and is not top 10 material. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i think about half the active roster of pro terran players would have won those two games given the same build orders - sea played reaaaaaaaally bad god he threw so many scvs away on terrible break attempts http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/?tabulator_search=leta&auto_redirect=1 point: maybe sea played bad but leta's been raping T's left and right all season. An argument can be made that he forced sea to play bad, ie force terrible break attempts | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i think about half the active roster of pro terran players would have won those two games given the same build orders - sea played reaaaaaaaally bad god he threw so many scvs away on terrible break attempts What would you have recommended in Sea's position halfway through? Going for a big timing push right before Leta's 4th kicked in? | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On December 17 2008 21:09 Plexa wrote: Steve, i trust you've seen Savior vs Sea on Andromeda right? That game was basically the same as the Jaedong game, except sea made one or two more mistakes and ended up losing from an advantage. Sea managed to hold and on win vs Jaedong - it was an impressive game! However, having a very strong TvZ shouldn't be all you need to get #10 on PR. Leta's achievements across the past month and bit (like his 14-4 record in proleauge) far outweigh Sea's one awesome game. Oh yea, i hope you haven't forgotten about Sea vs EffOrt yet either, that wasn't a pretty game. especially when FBH predated the BC leetness against jaedong a week before Sea | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
In the second game, Sea had a nice BO advantage over Leta with his faster expansion. He also got 2 more factories up earlier. Still, Leta controlled and positions his tanks very well to snipe a lot of Sea's units. Slowly, Sea lost a bunch of men and was being pushed back until he realized there's no way he can win. Intelligent, impressive play by Leta. | ||
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