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[MSL] Semifinal B, free vs Bisu - Page 14

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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
November 15 2008 10:05 GMT
#261
Ah crap, the replay of that game hurts almost as much as the game itself did! Jaedong was trying so so hard, but there's not much you can do at that point !
Oh, my eSports
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 10:07:51
November 15 2008 10:05 GMT
#262
On November 15 2008 19:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Holy shit, how does end game zerg possibly beat end game protoss? Dark swarm and ultras can't possibly beat storm / archons / reavers.



.... Do you follow pro SC at all?


Edit - I suppose that comment comes off a bit dickish even though I didn't mean it to. Honestly, ZvP late game is more about the type of economy the Zerg managed to get during the mid-game, and how much he managed to prevent the Toss from getting their ball of units to critical levels/denying expos.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
November 15 2008 10:05 GMT
#263
On November 15 2008 19:04 M2 wrote:
actually we could have have Bisu-Jaedong BO5 now :-))

Shit that wouldve been awesome
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
November 15 2008 10:06 GMT
#264
YES! clicking random links on my gom player finally paid off, im able to stream the game now
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 10:07:25
November 15 2008 10:06 GMT
#265
On November 15 2008 19:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Holy shit, how does end game zerg possibly beat end game protoss? Dark swarm and ultras can't possibly beat storm / archons / reavers.


oh geeze not this conversation again.

In the short answer, don't let protoss get to that size army.

in the longer answer, scourge the shuttles with the reavers, dark swarm the archons, and always make sure that you have +1 base on the protoss (with as many hatches as you need to go ultra/ling/scourge/defiler)

edit: in the even longer version: it depends, but with that size army for protoss, zerg has a really really hard time.
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Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
November 15 2008 10:06 GMT
#266
GOLIATH ONLINE!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
November 15 2008 10:07 GMT
#267
On November 15 2008 19:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Holy shit, how does end game zerg possibly beat end game protoss? Dark swarm and ultras can't possibly beat storm / archons / reavers.

it's called superior mobility + flanking and calls for at least semi-open maps
but if all expoes on the map are sort of mined out and you're sitting with that late-game protoss army just outside your hatchery cluster... well, then it's just not good
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 10:20:18
November 15 2008 10:07 GMT
#268
1-0. Free is looking very nervous.

Right now I'd say Bisu has an 85% chance of winning this series.

edit: a 3-0 is likely
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 15 2008 10:07 GMT
#269
Revolutionism baby
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#270
hahaha, nice "angel of angel" banner. Who's the angel? Bisu or free?
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#271
OK YaoYoan is not working and neither is daumsportslive. What can I do? TT
Freedom is a stranger
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#272
On November 15 2008 19:04 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2008 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:
On November 15 2008 18:54 GinNtoniC wrote:
This is bad

for who?

oh sorry, my keyboard shut down midsentence - that was supposed to be "this is bad for bisu" because he was economically behind and late in tech. fortunately the positions he jacked for the last fight and the reaver mismicro gave him the unexpected win.


Huh? Bisu had a huge economical lead and could even afford to lose most of his army just to delay Free's push by destroying the first reavers...

Free did a nice effort remacroing but he totally blew his second pair of reavers which ended the game quite quickly...it wasn't clear, but imho Bisu would've been top of that fight even if Free pulled the reaver micro of his life - and he clearly didn't.
Complete the cycle!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#273
Bisu seems to have this eerie calmness about him... it's like he's in the zone or something. :>
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#274
Come on free, you didnt beat Jaedong and Nada just to lost at the semis, at least get into the finals =/
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#275
On November 15 2008 19:08 kemoryan wrote:
OK YaoYoan is not working and neither is daumsportslive. What can I do? TT

gomtv
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 15 2008 10:08 GMT
#276
alright next game up bisu in red, free in blue?
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muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
November 15 2008 10:09 GMT
#277
On November 15 2008 19:08 kemoryan wrote:
OK YaoYoan is not working and neither is daumsportslive. What can I do? TT

GOM Player is your only hope now.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 15 2008 10:09 GMT
#278
LOL at top right Clubday MSL - THE FINALS
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 10:09:21
November 15 2008 10:09 GMT
#279
On November 15 2008 19:08 zer0das wrote:
Bisu seems to have this eerie calmness about him... it's like he's in the zone or something. :>


It's called the SKT1 effect
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 10:10:04
November 15 2008 10:09 GMT
#280
On November 15 2008 19:09 Shikyo wrote:
LOL at top right Clubday MSL - THE FINALS


Did you read it? It's saying the finals are on 11/22
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
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