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Chubbytoss is finally gone, at least from the Liquibet image database. Judging by Jangbi's gameplay, he has been gone for alot longer. This month's Kespa ranking fields him as the 8th, going up four spots. His recent record against Zerg shows him at 9-1. The players he loses to nowadays are few: BeSt every now and then, hyvaa in a recent Acematch, Light Cheese in the OSL, which gave him an unfortunate early exit before even getting to Group Stage (where Light failed horribly).
Jangbi first burstout was related to PvT. With some mediocre results lately, he still stands at almost 65% in that matchup. His macro is fearful. His storm-blankets are notorious. His reaver micro close to perfection.
But lately, his PvZ went onto a ridiculous streak. You could fault his opposition, playing Yarnc in four games, Shark twice, but Jangbi playing PvZ in late 2008 is something quite different from Jangbi PvZ in 2007. He does nothing flashy - mostly standard FE openings with corsairs, going straight for Reavers then, sometimes (vs. Shark on Colosseum e.g.) he busts out a surprising zealot rush. He executes it with grace and strikes the weak points. Somehow he has figured out, how his beloved Reavers, a flock of fast Zealots, and a healthy group of Corsairs blend together.
Jangbi's play can be frustrating at times. When he is feeling comfortably, he is executing like a young god. His BOs are refined, his management great, his harass relentless. When he gets thrown off his plan, this changes. He starts looking insecure, playing, but not really gaining ground. Jangbi is the type to go into a game, take the lead and keep it. He is not the fighter who will come back and reclaim the lost territory. How far will this take him in a Bo5?
It was September when YArnC had a massive change in his practice schedule. Previously it read:
- Beat my brother
- Practice some more
suddently it changed to:
- Kick Flash out of the MSL
- Carry Team in Proleague
- Win the MSL
Luxury was sold to KTF, and the "other" twin stepped up. And how he did. He is currently 4-2 in Proleague, survived the Ro16 in a nerve-wrecking ZvZ against the up and coming type-b, and recently even hunted down the "Destroyer" in an intense Proleague match. As if only a final spark was missing, Yarnc burst out. Assessing his strength at the moment is like judging an upcoming super power - you know it when it reveals itself, previously you just see wild strength, trying to be channeled into orderly paths. He climbed four ranks in the Kespa ranking, putting him to #16 for the time being. But where does the rise end?
Predictions+ Show Spoiler +Out of some personal fancy, I root for Jangbi. But I am scared, about his nerves, about the maps, about anything. If he doesn't win before the 5th, he won't, so I am predicting a 3-1. If you want a more precise preview, consult Hot_Bid. Destination favors straightforward play with a twist. Jangbi should look strong here. 1-0 Both are without a loss yet on Byzantium. Still, Jangbi to win: 2-0 Medusa makes all races look helpless with the cliffed lurkers. 2-1 Narrow channels, storms wiping the map clean: 3-1
How to watch
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Go Yarnc! You and your brothers ZvP makes me cringe, but here's to a breakthrough! You knocked out Flash baby! Now the only way that hurts less is if you win it all 
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Can't say it will be easy for Yarnc, but he will prevail.
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Destination isnt a bad map to be played twice, I'm sure yarnc would have prefered medusa but its still doable.
Byzantium is just a throw away game though, its such a shame that its on the map list this season. Yarnc should just 5pool or 2hydra or something.
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I really hope yarnc moves on (so there's some variety in the PvP), but I can't see him coming close to this set. ZvP is yarnc's weak matchup, and Jangbi's on a hot streak. I'd love it if yarnc steps up his vP game, but I can see no way for him to take the set. Especially with Byzantium on set 2. There's a chance he can take a game on Medusa, and I think that's the best we can hope for.
edit: I forgot to mention that Jangbi is like 5-1 against yarnc in games. Yarnc is screwed, but I really hope he can pull off something magical.
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Both Yarnc and his brother seems to lack game sense ZvP for some reason. And I'd be really surprised if fake yellow can take it up a notch instantly. I can't see much problems for Jangbi in a Bo5, short of nerves getting the better of him.
Rooting for Jangbi as a Khan fan, but really not a big fan of his play style. He's kind of Best-light. Very nice and clean, but nothing entertaining. Fairly boring style unless there's a hundred storms casted simultaneously.
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For the sake of mixing things up, please Yarnc, win.
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please yarnc so we can stop with the pvp
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cheering for Yarnc, bet Jangbi
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I'm rooting for Yarnc but I see Jangbi winning this. Come on Yarnc!
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MrHoon
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LUX HAS FAILED ME WIN SOMETHING YARNC
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BOOOOOOOOOO Yarnc....
kill him jangbi... for beating flash.
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im praying yarnc wins just for the sake of zerg advancing... I enjoy pvp but seriously....
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Z in the semis plz!
Yarnc, you're our last hope!
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jangbi you have to win so you can get revenge vs kal!
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JANGBI BEAT HIM 3-0!!!!!!!!
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"Both are without a loss yet on Byzantium. Still, Jangbi to win: 2-0"
Let see if Zerg can take first ZvP win (0-8 so far if we count Byzantium 1 games)
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On November 01 2008 04:57 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
"Both are without a loss yet on Byzantium. Still, Jangbi to win: 2-0"
Let see if Zerg can take first ZvP win (0-8 so far if we count Byzantium 1 games)
Missed that stat, wow. And it's also the map that made Jaedong sort of all-in against free.
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I dont think Yarnc can take down Jangbi. Though im no fan of either of those players lately they both impressed with great play. Still the matchup is against Yarnc and for Jangbi.
Anyway either way is fine with me, both are deserving players.
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How can someone who represent the sparkyz icon in their posts cheer for the chubby boretoss with nerves made out of tissue paper over OGN's last hope this season?
I demand that you explain yourself or turn in your uniform.
+ Show Spoiler +OK, maybe a bit ironic and unfounded, but I'm deeply saddened that even the few of us representing properly aren't truly chhering for us.
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On November 01 2008 03:53 OneOther wrote:
SAMSUNG PROTOSS GO!!!
God its going to be a busy night for you, isn't it?
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On November 01 2008 05:52 Barbarne wrote:How can someone who represent the sparkyz icon in their posts cheer for the chubby boretoss with nerves made out of tissue paper over OGN's last hope this season? I demand that you explain yourself or turn in your uniform. + Show Spoiler +OK, maybe a bit ironic and unfounded, but I'm deeply saddened that even the few of us representing properly aren't truly chhering for us.
have some icecream! 
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Every other day of the year, I think Jangbi will win this easy, but I have this feeling like tomorrow is one of these days when someone has much to proof and excels in his game to the point of being able to beat one. And tomorrow is Yarnc's day.
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This is suprisingly going to be a close game. Jangbi should be able to win this, but on the other hand I liquibetted for Yarnc. I think that Janbi is going to choke, and Yarnc is going to walk away with an undeserved win.
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it will be better for starcraft in general if JangBi takes this one
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oh god, not an OGN zerg playing ZvP.....please no
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Going to bed now, when I wake there will be ggs!
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On November 01 2008 06:28 disciple wrote:
it will be better for starcraft in general if JangBi takes this one
Yeah there should be no zergs in any starleague. That would be awesome for SC.
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Im going to watch this just for the uber storms. Jangbi will take thiiiiiiis.
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On November 01 2008 07:51 lgdDante wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 06:28 disciple wrote:
it will be better for starcraft in general if JangBi takes this one Yeah there should be no zergs in any starleague. That would be awesome for SC. Well considering Yarnc has no potential, and Jangbi does, and considering Yarnc does not have a rival waiting for him in the Semifinals, and Jangbi does, then yes, it would be awesome for Starcraft.
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I'm personally more excited for this match than for the OSL finals, I like both these players way more.
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On November 01 2008 09:00 Ideas wrote:
I'm personally more excited for this match than for the OSL finals, I like both these players way more. Same.
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On November 01 2008 08:17 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 07:51 lgdDante wrote:On November 01 2008 06:28 disciple wrote:
it will be better for starcraft in general if JangBi takes this one Yeah there should be no zergs in any starleague. That would be awesome for SC. Well considering Yarnc has no potential, and Jangbi does, and considering Yarnc does not have a rival waiting for him in the Semifinals, and Jangbi does, then yes, it would be awesome for Starcraft.
I'm not sure what you're getting at in terms of potential, as there's only a year difference in their ages.
As much as I am rooting for Jangbi because I like him more as a player, it's quite annoying to have yet ANOTHER PvP to watch in the future. No matter how epic a mirror match up is, I would still take a non-mirror matchup if possible for entertainment value.
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Hmmm... At the paper it looks like Yarnc stands no chance against JangBi. Especially taking into account the history of the games between them. But my gut feeling tells me that Yarnc will take this.
3:1 for Yarnc.
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for the sake of me not having to watch pvt/tvt/pvp again, like its been for the past few days, gogo YAHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRnac.
3-1 that JangBitch.
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I can feel that Yarnc can win this one. I haven't seen JangBi play lately, I feel Yarnc taking this one.
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I will be very surprised if Jangbi loses. But I'm rooting for Yarnc to win so that we don't have All-P semifinals.
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After a two month stretch of gosu zergs (type-b,thezerg,jaedong,luxury,julyzerg) doing great all over the place, we are had a month straight of zerg failures. I want some zerg to raise his main.
I predict yellow using a modified 3 hat build which goes 3 hat lair -> earlier then normal 4th and den/evo -> 4 hat hydra/ling push > 8-9 harrassing mutas -> lurker defence - mass ling/hive
I have a strong feeling he will emuate jaedongs katrina zvp in at least 2 of the games.
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On November 01 2008 12:19 AttackZerg wrote:
After a two month stretch of gosu zergs (type-b,thezerg,jaedong,luxury,julyzerg) doing great all over the place, we are had a month straight of zerg failures. I want some zerg to raise his main.
I predict yellow using a modified 3 hat build which goes 3 hat lair -> earlier then normal 4th and den/evo -> 4 hat hydra/ling push > 8-9 harrassing mutas -> lurker defence - mass ling/hive
I have a strong feeling he will emuate jaedongs katrina zvp in at least 2 of the games. I have a feeling it will fail.
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Yarnc sucks ZvP and has a bad record against Jangbi
3-0 Jangbi
Oh and Dazed Spy you need to add one more neo for Bisu/Much/free who came after Anytime/Stork/Pusan who came after rA/Kingdom/Reach
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Noticed that Jangbi's player picture is still chubbytoss. Seriously, I do tend to favor those on the chubby side, if only because so many of these players look way too skinny and sometimes even malnurished or something.
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This is jangbi's big chance. I have a feeling this is one of those "make you or break you moments" for both of these players. If jangbi or yarnc wins this game, I see the winner going on to win the whole thing. If they fail its one more dent in the psychiatric armor. They've been beaten up before pretty badly in middle/late rounds of other starleagues. That has to be taking a toll. I expect both to be beyond prepared
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Hope fake yellow pulls through. An FBH/Yellow final would be awesome. Now we just need some divine intervention to make that happen
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On November 01 2008 12:37 Guybrush wrote:
Yarnc sucks ZvP and has a bad record against Jangbi
3-0 Jangbi
Oh and Dazed Spy you need to add one more neo for Bisu/Much/free who came after Anytime/Stork/Pusan who came after rA/Kingdom/Reach Done.
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Although Jangbi is probably likely to win this.
I have to vote for Yellow to avoid more TvP/PvP.
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United States10774 Posts
I think JangBi will go 3-1, with Yarnc stealing one game with a nice cheese.
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For anyone who cares
Yarnc would be nice so that there wasn't a pvp in the next set of games.
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On November 01 2008 12:19 AttackZerg wrote:
After a two month stretch of gosu zergs (type-b,thezerg,jaedong,luxury,julyzerg) doing great all over the place, we are had a month straight of zerg failures. I want some zerg to raise his main.
I predict yellow using a modified 3 hat build which goes 3 hat lair -> earlier then normal 4th and den/evo -> 4 hat hydra/ling push > 8-9 harrassing mutas -> lurker defence - mass ling/hive
I have a strong feeling he will emuate jaedongs katrina zvp in at least 2 of the games.
Yellow keeps trying to emulate Jaedong's play, but he dosen't quite have the game feel that he needs. It's like yellow always is missing "something"- either the harass, the timing, the number of hatches, the upgrades, that makes him get rolled.
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Will Yarnc always be the inferior zergling?
He should take this to prove his worth.
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On November 01 2008 03:38 baubo wrote:
Both Yarnc and his brother seems to lack game sense ZvP for some reason.
Probably because both their teams lack some good P practice partners.
Obviously they can train with pros outside of the team, but I would assume those in the same team would have a bigger effect.
Anyways, I can't wait for this, I love PvZ. GOM Player is actually working too, although it's showing korean music videos right now. ^_^
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On November 01 2008 13:59 Realpenguin wrote:
Anyways, I can't wait for this, I love PvZ. GOM Player is actually working too, although it's showing korean music videos right now. ^_^
You sure you're on the right channel?
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It started! Requested Daum link please
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I voted for Jangbi but I wouldn't mind if Yellow beat him and then Kal and faced Bisu in the finals and then Bisu rapes him 3-0.
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On November 01 2008 13:52 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +For anyone who cares Yarnc would be nice so that there wasn't a pvp in the next set of games.
right side of the bracket is just so awesome.
I want yarnc so I can watch Kal play PvZ
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Man, I finally got the daum stream working. Nice.
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Added stream url to the op, thanks for posting.
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What did I just see?
Yarnc's nickname is CRAZY DIAMOND?
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On November 01 2008 14:09 village_idiot wrote:Why are people always asking the daum stream? It's right there on the website. In the box. http://sports.media.daum.net/
I know its right on the site but for me the site takes forever to load even though the stream works perfect for me so I though I would make it easier for everyone by just posting the direct link to it.
Its been working amazing for me on IE Tab with Firefox.
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Looks like it's about to start, woot.
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On November 01 2008 14:10 village_idiot wrote:
What did I just see?
Yarnc's nickname is CRAZY DIAMOND?
yet another question to ask susie.
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United States17042 Posts
does yarnc always wear that shirt?
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yarnc at top, janbi bottom
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SO IT BEGINS
YARNC top
JANGBI bottom
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yarnc at top, jangbi at bottom
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Hungary11291 Posts
Game one underway, Yarnc is light blue on top, Jangbi green at bottom, Destination.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Jangbi with pylon and direct scout, so he wants a really early Nexus. Yarnc 12 hatching.
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Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT
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first pylon out at bottom of ramp for jangbi, 12 hatch for yarnc. Pretty standard so far
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hatchery at nat for yarnc, FE from jangbi
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On November 01 2008 14:15 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT
You arn't staying up for stork/fantasy?
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12hatch vs 14 nex then gateway
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Hungary11291 Posts
14 Nex follows immediately, Jangbi harassing with a probe. Now pool. Jangbi with gateway instead of forge!
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But he gets forge soon after
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nexus then gateway then forge for jangbi after first pylon. 11 pool from yarnc, third hatch next to main hatch goes up
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3hatch gas, 3rd hatch in main
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3rd hatch in main for Yarnc, also gas added. Cannon warping for Jangbi and he starts mining at his natural.
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On November 01 2008 14:15 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:15 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT You arn't staying up for stork/fantasy?
That would be suicide, but meh its just college
fantasy fighting!
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lair going up, looks like 3 hatch mutas
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2 lings, jangbi able to be greedy as fuck
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only 1 cannon for jangbi, and it's in the min line. I guess he's confident that the mining time dosen't need to be perfect.
Edit: good job, I didn't see it, the probes path correctly around it so that it speeds up mining time
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Hungary11291 Posts
Immediate lair morph for Yarnc too, so maybe 3 hatch muta on this map?
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standard stargate for jangbi, jangbi sending zealot for some harrass
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stargate goes up, I'm not sure if the 4 lings that yarnc has is going to be enough to fend off the zeal >.>
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lair into spire, second gas goes up, 1 goon to prevent scouting from jangbi, first sair building
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Yarnc forces Jangbi to make a few more cannons with lings.
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This is so playing into Jangbi's cards, he is aware of every move and will go mass speedzeal / corsairs. How is mutaling holding that?
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yarnc mining out the ramp, another expo?
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fourth hatch for yarnc at the 2 oclock expansion
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On November 01 2008 14:17 SingletonWilliam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:15 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT You arn't staying up for stork/fantasy? That would be suicide, but meh its just college fantasy fighting!
0 sleep for the 800!
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On November 01 2008 14:19 Aesop wrote:
This is so playing into Jangbi's cards, he is aware of every move and will go mass speedzeal / corsairs. How is mutaling holding that?
if the first couple of scourge are good, the corsair number can be dropped so the muta can do good harass. Jaedong showed that there was a timing window where 9 muta + 4 scourge >> 3 corsairs
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dt sair vs lurker/ling most likely
yarnc's 4th/5th hatcheries at at 2 new expos
edit: nope, yarnc is a genius and builds 4 mutas
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dt coming for some harass
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On November 01 2008 14:20 kNyTTyM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:17 SingletonWilliam wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT You arn't staying up for stork/fantasy? That would be suicide, but meh its just college fantasy fighting! 0 sleep for the 800!
Thank god it's saturday tomorrow here in pacific standard time.
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United States17042 Posts
Sunk gets up in time+ 6 lings stops the dt from doing any damage
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VLC STREAM SOMEONE 
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Where the ass is ovie speed?
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ht + 4 sairs defending against 9 muta inside jangbi's main
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jangbi morphin archons for heavy muta defense
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dt juke delays mining
overlord speed helps, yarnc
timing attack = yarnc is fucked
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On November 01 2008 14:21 village_idiot wrote:
Where the ass is ovie speed?
gas went to muta, although i'm pretty sure that it's not paying off right now for yarnc
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On November 01 2008 14:20 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:20 kNyTTyM wrote:On November 01 2008 14:17 SingletonWilliam wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT You arn't staying up for stork/fantasy? That would be suicide, but meh its just college fantasy fighting! 0 sleep for the 800! Thank god it's saturday tomorrow here in pacific standard time.
? im in pst also but Im staying up for osl
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On November 01 2008 14:22 kNyTTyM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:20 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On November 01 2008 14:20 kNyTTyM wrote:On November 01 2008 14:17 SingletonWilliam wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On November 01 2008 14:15 SingletonWilliam wrote:
Jangbi do this quick so I can get a good 5 hours of sleep before the SAT You arn't staying up for stork/fantasy? That would be suicide, but meh its just college fantasy fighting! 0 sleep for the 800! Thank god it's saturday tomorrow here in pacific standard time. ? im in pst also but Im staying up for osl
right, aka we don't have class, which is a good thing
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jangbi pushing with 2 archons + handful of zeals + corsairs,
yarnc with lurks
dt's are doing good deal of harrass
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Holy fucking shit jangbi is playing amazing.
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yarnc gettong steamrolled by archon sair xealot and a dt ravages drones
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jangbi finally getting obs
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8 kill dt for jangbi that was hiding behind yarnc's min line. Jangbi fails to take down yarnc's base at 2, yarnc gets lurkers up in time to defend it
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Oh wow yarnc managed to take down a nexus like the second after it warped in
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lurkers just in time to save the day
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so far yarnc has done ZERO harrass with mutas
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jangbi fails to get his third up and running becuase of a lurker+lings to kill it off
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On November 01 2008 14:24 shavingcream66 wrote:
so far yarnc has done ZERO harrass with mutas
ht+archons+ corsair is too much to be able to really harass effectively- he's using all of his apm to defned
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Yarnc actually has a decent economy with 4 base, Jangbi is prevented from putting up his third for the time being. Jangbi looking ready to crash into the natural, but he does not appear to have many observers yet. Finally exanding to the third with obs support.
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still no ovie speed for yarnc
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timing attack with no obs
ninja dt strikes again
jangbi tries to take his 3rd, lurker harassing it, killed by lings
yarnc's macro is slipping
lost too much mining time, and didn't kill too much of jangbi's original army
protoss ball gonna roll yarnc unless he can delay for his 3rd/4th to kick in
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jangbi attempts to get his third up (the one right above his main at 6). yarnc is left with only 3 mutas after letting them get hit by archons
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Yarnc mining from 4 bases
jangbi from 2
if yarnc can survive he's at an advantage
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i guess that yarnc didn't feel like he needed the muta anymore- going pure lurk/ling/hydra to hold off jangbi's ball
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The mutas were simply a distraction, not really meant to do damage. Just force the protoss to respond so he commits resources. This allows you to expand more quickly and safely.
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Looks like Yarnc will switch to pure hydra lurk. He sacrifices some mutas to unt templars, without success. But now he is engaging and driving Jangbi out of his half of the map. Jangbi finally secured his min only with a bunch of cannons. Huge fights, storms crackle down and Yarnc is split with his forces.
Unburrows unteimely with lurkers, loses tons of them. Yarnc looks disoriented.
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Unfortunately for yarnc jangbi is playing like a beast so it doesnt matter He also was a bit sloppy with the mutas so they died quicker.
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Jangbi finally got an expansion up.
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psistorm manages to kill off most of the hydra, goons kill off most of the lurkers, yarnc dosen't look like he's going to be able to overtake the ball at this point
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yarnc's hydra/lurk switch is epic fail
can't pump enough units in time
only 5 hatcheries still i think
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Mass goon & zeal / Archon heading for the right hand base. Hydras melt under goon fire, no chance to rescue the base, the hatchery dies.
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And yarnc has no troops
goon army murdering everything
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yarnc's 3rd is down
cute lurker drop at jangbi's nat... whatever
yarc gets steamrolled
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Jangbi taking the 4th too. Yarnc managed to place a lurker at the right hand base. But he ggs out!
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yarnc dosen't have enough hatches to pump hydra, goon/zeal is raping. can anyone see the upgrade numbers?
yarnc loses his expansion at 2
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Lings are also useful sometimes
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Don't cry Yarnc! That's what screwed over your brother!
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That looked like one of my zvps...
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On November 01 2008 14:28 ShloobeR wrote:
Lings are also useful sometimes
against goons, but yarnc didn't have enough larve, so the hydra are supposed to be more cost effective.
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damn jangbi's PvZ is beastly o.O
unfortunately his PvP is probably worse than Kal...
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things don't look good for yarnc, jangbi played like a beast that game
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That game was very sad. Yellow had 4 bases against 2 for quite a while and he still lost. His micro against Jangbi's army really appeared to be lacking and he didn't make any scourge so he could snip the observers. The last battle where he had 12+ hydras and just let Jangbi kill 4-5 overloads that he brought over was quite sad.
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ahahhaah, as I was saying earlier, jangbi for the 3-0
then for another 3-0, and perhaps another for good measure. ;]
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Think Yellow had quite of lot of lurkers died uncontrolled
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Destination now 5-11 ZvP, looks bad.
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United States17042 Posts
just for fun, because it's not included in the op
Yellow[arnc] is 7-3 in his last 10 games,
jangbi is 9-1
yarnc is 5-5 in his last 10 zvp's
jangbi is 9-1 in his last 10 pvz's
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Yarnc had better have a killer build for Byzantium or he's going out 3-0.
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On November 01 2008 14:29 Yaqoob wrote:
That game was very sad. Yellow had 4 bases against 2 for quite a while and he still lost. His micro against Jangbi's army really appeared to be lacking and he didn't make any scourge so he could snip the observers. The last battle where he had 12+ hydras and just let Jangbi kill 4-5 overloads that he brought over was quite sad.
The overlords didn't matter at that point, but it was quite sloppy. Jangbi managed to get his econ up and running really easily as well because yarnc was droning for quite a while (not enough lings showing to force jangbi to build more cannons)
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On November 01 2008 14:29 Yaqoob wrote:
That game was very sad. Yellow had 4 bases against 2 for quite a while and he still lost. His micro against Jangbi's army really appeared to be lacking and he didn't make any scourge so he could snip the observers. The last battle where he had 12+ hydras and just let Jangbi kill 4-5 overloads that he brought over was quite sad.
His mutas didnt delay him enough like they were meant to, mostly due to their foundness for archons(They like shiny objects?). Jangbi moved out with the perfect timing before those 4 bases could really pay off at all. Yarnc didnt have nearly enough drones to fully power those 4 bases. Jangbi on the other hand was macroing hard off a low number saturated bases. That makes it extremely easy to mass a quick army and pull ahead in psi for a brief time. Jangbi,being a talented pro, abused it perfectly against yarncs very thinly spread defenses.
I didn't think of it as sad. Mainly just really nice protoss play. For those of you who seem to not understand. Jangbi's decesion to suicide the rest of his troops (archon + 3 zs) as a distraction while his dt snuck in and got 8 drones won him the game. Without this huge delay yarnc would have most likely been able to defend his 4 bases and quickly pull ahead from there.
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I see perhaps 4 or 5 pool byzantion, no way 0-8 zvp so far this and last map version. So definetly cheese coming from yarnc.
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I think they're tormenting Hwasin right now.
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The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S
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United States17042 Posts
next map: Byzantium 2
there was only one zvp played on it, and it was jaedong v free. Jaedong lost that game. Yarnc better have a good idea of what he's planning on doing.
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tv ad for "factory girl?" girls look hot :D
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can i get the VLC URL? (the one from the zatic stream)
edit: not the VLC thread link, the actual URL that you copy/paste into the VLC player
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 14:33 ShloobeR wrote:
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S
july has shown that mass hydra can be quite good. However, it looks like the twins don't quite have the same grasp of the game that Jaedong or july have. It seems like they're just hitting the wall that separates an S class player from an A player.
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On November 01 2008 14:33 ShloobeR wrote:
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S
Mass hydra can be effective if your game management is perfect. You can't afford mistakes like yarnc made(letting dt in/running into archons with mutas).
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Jangbi threw down some excellent storms, Yarnc failed to snipe observers. GG for Jangbi.
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To be fair to Luxury, his zvp is miles ahead of his brother's, in an entirely different level in fact. Luxury's zvp is just a weak match up, sloppy compared to his others [much in the way storks pvz seems bad compared to his pvp and pvt]. Yarncs zvp however, is just genuinely poor.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Byzantium is almost ready for the players. Jangbi looking confident with what he achieved so far. Brown zerg top right, orange protoss bottom left. At least more difficult scouting for Jangbi here.
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United States17042 Posts
next game, Byzantium 2,
yarnc at top right, jangbi at bottom left
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On November 01 2008 14:36 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:33 ShloobeR wrote:
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S july has shown that mass hydra can be quite good. However, it looks like the twins don't quite have the same grasp of the game that Jaedong or july have. It seems like they're just hitting the wall that separates an S class player from an A player.
July puts a lot of pressure on the Toss early on though, the twins tend to sit back and build up a hydra army and then get raped by storms : (
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YARNC top right
JANGBI bottom left
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
ROFL wow, have less confidence please...
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc thinks that a 5 pool will win him the game. Why not the first game, which was a 2 player map, and scouting was easier? no one will know...
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9pool
forge first this time
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United States10328 Posts
let's see if he has july control
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Hungary11291 Posts
3 eggs morphing! Jangbi has a forge at the wallin. PROBE SEES LINGS. BUILD A CANNON JANGBI!!
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United States17042 Posts
to be fair, jangbi isn't going to have an idea, so if yarnc's ling micro is good
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
At least he forged first... Jangbi might get lucky if yarnc sends lings the wrong way.
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there is no one to make the cannons
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United States17042 Posts
take that back, jangbi scouts it, puts a pylon in his main to go with a cannon in the min line to defend. He'll proably be fine, yarnc is going to be in trouble.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Does Yarnc even know where to go to? Jangbi settling for cannon and gateway in his mainbase, instead of defending the wallin. He neeeds to defend that cannon.
Yarnc goes for the pylon powering the cannon. He will kill it! Dies before cannon completes
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
gosu response from jangbi
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JANGBI FUCKS UP
PYLON KILLED
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Hungary11291 Posts
All lings killed, Jangbi survives.
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FUCK THAT WAS AWESOME! JANGBI! 2 probe harass while dealing with ling hararas perfectly! SICK
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United States17042 Posts
I;'m pretty sure that 5 pool didn't end up doing enough dmg
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OOOHHHH gate underpowered
how unlucky
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi's 2 probe harass is pretty beast- how many drones has he gotten, like 3 so far?
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Hungary11291 Posts
Yarnc expands and harasses the wallin pylon with a ling. Jangbi cannot get zeals out as his gate is unpowered, so he will lose that wallin. Interesting situation.
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc is behind by a lot just because his drone count is so low compared to jangbi's probe count.
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Hungary11291 Posts
3rd hatch in mai for Yarnc now. Cybernetics core already for Jangbi, prolly going for the early cors? Zealots pumping for Jangbi now, scouting still with his probe. Looking ready to expand now.
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi smartly switches to 1 base tech- he'll probaly get the sair out before yarnc gets hydra (maybe), so then he'll be even further ahead.
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looks like some daaku tempular action
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Jangbi fan now
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Yarnc powering economy from 3 hatches. Jangbi going for citadel / archives, now walling in with forge / gate.
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi is getting dt tech before corsairs?
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Hungary11291 Posts
Some lings sneak through the wallin and kill a probe. Another group comes and they flank the cannons! Jangbi losing his wallin YET AGAIN.
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Yarnc kills the wall again
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc switches into 3 hatch ling, oversky style- dt will actually help fend that off...
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dt's headed for yarncs main
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that dark templar is out and yarnc doesn't have much in base
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nice flank wiht initial ling slipping tourgh, and reinforcemnets coming from the front
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Hungary11291 Posts
Yarnc breaking through with lings, but has no chance against DT / cannon. DT sneaks into Yarncs main, no OLs there!
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United States17042 Posts
first dt gets out of jangbi's base
yarnc trying to figure out how to end the game now
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That was just a fucking horrible decesion to attack by yarnc...seems like he underestimated jangbi or something.
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Three drones die to the DT and the spawning pool might too!
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He should have been playing more passive against a build with a cannon in the min line. So hard to break with lings. He also should have been blocking his ramp with lings just in case.
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Lol yarnc just wasted 24 lings and didn't kill anything. The dt is now tearing up his base.
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United States17042 Posts
the korean commentators scream when they see that there's no overlords at the main of yarnc.
yarnc saves the pool, has lair+spire tech by now
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Pool barely survives, Mutas are coming now, and Jangbi trying to expand yet again. He has an archon morphing now.
DT at expansion gets 2 kills before being eliminated. Jangbi putting up his forge the third time.
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United States17042 Posts
7 drones killed total by dt's after a 5 pool? yarnc's econ must be suffering.
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slowlords are so frustrating
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United States17042 Posts
1 muta harass from yarnc. That's not going to do much with an archon already there
dt gets another 3 drone kills.
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Second DT at the main base, gets some lings and some drones. Still slow overlords. Jangbi was able to complete his expansion in the meantime. Initial 10 kill DT heading for the spawning pool!
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Spawning pool dies!
DT kills some more drones, dies with 14 kills. Yarnc harassing with mutas, Jangbi has 3 floating balls against it and is adding some more gates now.
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Yarnc is practically giving this game away.
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi gets the pool, 5 muta harassing jangbi's base
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not much left for Yarnc, weak economy, pool down, archon out agains the mutas
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United States17042 Posts
another 3 drones go down for yarnc. I think that jangbi probably has more probes than yarnc has supply
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That 2 probe harass counter to 5 pool is PP material in my opinion...so brilliant.
a) early ling harass with a 5 pool requires intense concentration.
b) drone kills with your 2 probes count extra because of the low count due to early lings.
Such a great freakin play.
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those mutas are useless
yarnc has useless troops and no drones
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Jangbi has 3 archons and yarnc still pumping muta.
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Hes not that bad at muta haras it seems
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Hungary11291 Posts
Yarnc is not really finding his touch for muta harass, usually he is able to do this so much better.
Ok, finally he gets his touch, kills one archon. The second costs him a mutalisk. Jangbi attacking heads on with zealots and the remaining archon. Kills the archon with mutas, well done!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
jeeeeeeesus, daum sports is fucking terrible tonight
its never lagged before
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Just hopeless in general.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Jangbi's gates are rolling now, pure archon / zealot. Loses some mutas to another archon, still harassing to ability.
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Use the daum player orange button stream. Its perfect.
I'm assuming you have agood data rate.
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Yarnc's muta harass options are very limited now that his mutas are all red.
Or dead.
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
That 2 probe harass counter to 5 pool is PP material in my opinion...so brilliant.
a) early ling harass with a 5 pool requires intense concentration.
b) drone kills with your 2 probes count extra because of the low count due to early lings.
Such a great freakin play.
agreed, although i'm not sure that it's a pp- it requires a lot of concentration from both players, toss needs to try to make sure they can probe stack and stuff appropriately
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On November 01 2008 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
That 2 probe harass counter to 5 pool is PP material in my opinion...so brilliant.
a) early ling harass with a 5 pool requires intense concentration.
b) drone kills with your 2 probes count extra because of the low count due to early lings.
Such a great freakin play.
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Hungary11291 Posts
Mutas exploiting the open peon line at the natural. Jangbi sneak expanding to bottom right. Yarnc with hydra den now, Jangbi sending out another group of zeal archon, Yarnc harasses those ARchons with Muta again.
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Please god scout that nexus
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Yarnc is like 'hurr hurr i'm so good I can attack archons with mut- oh shit- hur hurr hurrr i'll do it agai-ohshi'
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi expands again, things arn't looking good for yarnc. He better figure out how to have jaedong style muta control soon.
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On November 01 2008 14:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Use the daum player orange button stream. Its perfect.
I'm assuming you have agood data rate.
orange button? do you mean gom?
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Hungary11291 Posts
Jangbi knocks at the front door and yarnc ggs.
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 14:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:jeeeeeeesus, daum sports is fucking terrible tonight its never lagged before
supposedly if you keep refreshing the stream becomes better. It might be random
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United States17042 Posts
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wow, yarnc totally threw that game away.
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wow, talk about throwing the game
that was the worst zvp i've ever seen
ling suicide + dt rape........ omg yarnc deserves to lose 0-3
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wow, fake yellow is really getting outclassed here. This is so going 3-0.
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Yarnc can stop fucking around now (too lazy to look at my liquibet.)
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On November 01 2008 14:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Use the daum player orange button stream. Its perfect.
I'm assuming you have agood data rate. orange button? do you mean gom?
Yes I do mean gom. See next time ill just make a blank post and let you decide what I was trying to say. You'll probably be right and then I wont have to type Sense this is MSL and all.
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 14:54 d.arkive wrote:
wow, yarnc totally threw that game away.
That 5 pool really didn't do anything, and the game just went downhill from there (also, losing 8-10 drones doesn't really help)
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Hungary11291 Posts
Jangbi really reacted in style here, not even trying to defend that wallin and harassing with 2 probe.
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Maybe Yarnc is giving JangBi a false sense of victory, we never know.
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On November 01 2008 14:54 d.arkive wrote:
wow, yarnc totally threw that game away.
Disagree, that was a fantastic response from Jangbi (even though yes, yarnc played like a tard too).
His timing/tech path/unit choices were perfect.
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yarnc has the most depressing ZvP. ever.
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2 Jangbi probes > 5 Fake yellow drones.
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On November 01 2008 14:55 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:54 d.arkive wrote:
wow, yarnc totally threw that game away. That 5 pool really didn't do anything, and the game just went downhill from there (also, losing 8-10 drones doesn't really help)
wasn't it a 6 pool?
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On November 01 2008 14:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On November 01 2008 14:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Use the daum player orange button stream. Its perfect.
I'm assuming you have agood data rate. orange button? do you mean gom? Yes I do mean gom. See next time ill just make a blank post and let you decide what I was trying to say. You'll probably be right and then I wont have to type Sense this is MSL and all.
gom doesnt sponsor msl and daum has carried msl for a long time so there's no real reason to assume its on gom
at any rate that shit hasnt worked for me for a long time, i get some splash screen in korean i can't do anything with
edit: nevermind wow it just miraculously works now somehow
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RIP zerg
what a terrible season for zerg players
If fake Yellow loses here the only hope of a zerg champion will be in the GOM Classic.
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United States17042 Posts
Jangbi is really showing some good decision making and play, at least in his pvz. He defended well against the 5 pool by sending 2 probes to do awesome harass, building a cannon in his min line to fend it off, and in both games consistently managed to get his dt to harass effectively. his unit control has been good for a protoss as well, and he had some good storms in the first game. Looks like this run in the msl is for real.
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Pretty sure it was a 5 pool...
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Is there some reason why both practice and fake yellow can't play ZvP to save their lives? Good lord that was just horrible.
That said, that counter by Jangbi is NICE.
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United States17042 Posts
Medusa is the next map:
50% zvp (5-5), with yarnc playing 3 times- winning twice and losing once
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On November 01 2008 14:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 14:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On November 01 2008 14:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On November 01 2008 14:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Use the daum player orange button stream. Its perfect.
I'm assuming you have agood data rate. orange button? do you mean gom? Yes I do mean gom. See next time ill just make a blank post and let you decide what I was trying to say. You'll probably be right and then I wont have to type Sense this is MSL and all. gom doesnt sponsor msl and daum has carried msl for a long time so there's no real reason to assume its on gom at any rate that shit hasnt worked for me for a long time, i get some splash screen in korean i can't do anything with
I just clicked the left most button then closed it and proceeded as normal. If what youre talking about is what I'm thinking off. But then again you probably tried this.
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thats twice Yarnc got destroyed by DT's
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It was actually 6 pool .
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someone is getting a 3-0..
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United States10774 Posts
Jangbi is 7-1 vs Yarnc lul
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On November 01 2008 15:00 OneOther wrote:
Jangbi is 7-1 vs Yarnc lul I know. Its fucking fantastic. God I love Jangbi.
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On November 01 2008 15:00 OneOther wrote:
Jangbi is 7-1 vs Yarnc lul
And its about to get 8-1
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi is 18-13 (58%) in pvz,
yarnc is 23-25 (47%) in zvp.
looks like 8-1 is probably going to happen
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next map should be pretty fair 50% (5-5). I think that byzantium game was last game we see that map where zerg is playing (they might drop it out next season).
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Even if Yarnc wins game 3, I don't think Jangbi will be mentally fazed at all.
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map stats + players stats = 3-0
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On November 01 2008 15:03 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
jangbi is 18-13 (56%) in pvz,
yarnc is 23-25 (47%) in zvp.
looks like 8-1 is probably going to happen 18-13 (58%) 
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On November 01 2008 15:03 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
next map should be pretty fair 50% (5-5). I think that byzantium game was last game we see that map where zerg is playing (they might drop it out next season).
Too bad jangbi's PvZ is imba, rendering any map stats totally useless. Yarnc needs to win 3 times in a row to take this, which i highly doubt is possible.
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 15:05 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 15:03 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
jangbi is 18-13 (56%) in pvz,
yarnc is 23-25 (47%) in zvp.
looks like 8-1 is probably going to happen 18-13 (58%)
oops, typo. ><;; edited
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 15:03 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
next map should be pretty fair 50% (5-5). I think that byzantium game was last game we see that map where zerg is playing (they might drop it out next season).
byzantium 2 only has 2 games (the one we just saw, and jaedong v free). 2 zvp's don't really let you have any sort of significance, especially in bo5's
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United States10328 Posts
dammit yarnc
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On November 01 2008 15:08 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 15:03 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
next map should be pretty fair 50% (5-5). I think that byzantium game was last game we see that map where zerg is playing (they might drop it out next season). byzantium 2 only has 2 games (the one we just saw, and jaedong v free). 2 zvp's don't really let you have any sort of significance, especially in bo5's
Including Byzantium 1, it's 0-9 against zerg. I think that's significant.
edit: When they started the replay, did anybody catch if it was 5 or 6 pool? I'm curious now.
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thats two toss in the semis
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Replay shows Yarnc's build to have been a 5pool.
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Wow, never knew that Byzantium was a Zerg hell.
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United States10774 Posts
wowww the stream is lagging so badly. How are ya'll watching it?
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc looks like he's already defeated, where as jangbi looks like he's ready to play another game.
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does jangbi's keyboard have alternating black and white keys?
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uhm, whats taking game 3 so long?
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my stream isn't lagging at all...which is odd actually
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On November 01 2008 15:12 OneOther wrote:
wowww the stream is lagging so badly. How are ya'll watching it? The website stream capsized on me just as yarncs pool went down, im relying on the Daum player now. Laggy as hell, but it's worth it. To a degree.
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On November 01 2008 15:12 OneOther wrote:
wowww the stream is lagging so badly. How are ya'll watching it?
Early games, a lot more people are watching, keep refreshing the page till you get a good stream.
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Hungary11291 Posts
I am actually feeding the zatic url back to GOM Player, as it tends to work better than VLC in this respect. Usually works, if not, reload.
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 15:12 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm, whats taking game 3 so long?
they probably need to fit in all the commerical time
jangbi at top left, yarnc at bottom/bottom left
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oh, the stream is crappy....which I think has been like that since I tried to watch best vs stork
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Hungary11291 Posts
Medusa now, Jangbi with his usual pylon on choke, Yarnc going for a 12 hatch as it seems.
Was that actually something like 12 pool 11 gas? A bit confused.
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So depressing...
At least win this one Yarnc
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United States17042 Posts
On November 01 2008 15:13 DM20 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 15:12 OneOther wrote:
wowww the stream is lagging so badly. How are ya'll watching it? Early games, a lot more people are watching, keep refreshing the page till you get a good stream.
It's a heck of a lot easier to stay up till midnight for a game to end than it is to stay up till 2:30 to watch the finals.
that being said, i'm watching the finals
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United States10774 Posts
Stream is unbearable nooo
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United States17042 Posts
how demolished must yarnc feel, seeing that he can't even break even in a game where he opens with a 5 pool.
looks like a 9 pool speed build
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Hungary11291 Posts
So, Yarnc with extremely fast gas. He is getting 6 lings at the moment. 8 it might seem. Maybe an early runby? Jangbi with dual cannons now.
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi goes forge first, no problem, he's taking the time to mine away the minerals, i guess to make sure he doesn't get randomly proxy hatched or something.
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Yarnc settles for chasing the scouting probe and does not attack right away. Jangbi adding a gate to his wallin. Lair morphing with a single hatch for Yarnc. Maybe fast lurker? Third cannon for Jangbi, the diversion is working.
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United States17042 Posts
second hatch gets laid down after 8 lings- all 8 lings are wasted by running after the scouting probe
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Hungary11291 Posts
Yarnc expanding to his natural, no sign of lurker den yet (although I think 2 hatch lurker Jaedong style would be very good here).
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United States17042 Posts
maybe a 2 base version of the lurker build that jaedong did against free on this map?
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Rather late cycore for Jangbi and spire started for Yarnc. Jangbi needs cannons to cover his minerals as soon as the mutas hatch. Line of lings before Yarncs natural, so he denies any scouting for the moment. Jangbi appears to be thinking of lurkers, he is checking his cliff carefully.
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United States17042 Posts
spire after lair for yarnc
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Stargate and spire finish, Jangbi adding a 4th cannon to his wallin - he is really playing blindly and guessing the wrong way. But his corsair will enlighten him for usre.
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc must think that his muta micro is freaking awsome-he keeps going spire tech every game.
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On November 01 2008 15:14 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 15:13 DM20 wrote:On November 01 2008 15:12 OneOther wrote:
wowww the stream is lagging so badly. How are ya'll watching it? Early games, a lot more people are watching, keep refreshing the page till you get a good stream. It's a heck of a lot easier to stay up till midnight for a game to end than it is to stay up till 2:30 to watch the finals. that being said, i'm watching the finals
Exactly, less people watching then so not as laggy, its also a friday night so more people will be watching.
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United States17042 Posts
robo going up for jangbi, as well as a cannon inside of his main min line
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Hungary11291 Posts
Jangbi adding a cannon in his main mineral line. Maybe 5 mutas morphing? Mutas heading up straight away. 2nd cannons at main base, the natural probes are under defended. First corsair bursts out.
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2 corsairs now, one cannon at each base. Yarnc needs to do damage fast.
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Nice micro by Jangbi kills both scourge. Mutas are forced to run from 1 cors / muta.
Yet again scourge wasted, wtf?
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Funny thing is, with Yarnc's good ZvT, you'd think he would compare vessels to archons and avoid attacking them with mutas, but no.
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United States17042 Posts
6 muta out for yarnc, and he's still pumping. Jangbi is adding cannons+ sairs trying to defend. I don't think that yarnc has done enough damage yet.
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More scourge heading up, mutas are still alive. Kill a goon, one corsair alive, second completes. Shuttle also done for Jangbi, but he needs to survive the 2 hatch muta.. 3rd hatch underway for Yarnc. No chance to get in for him right now.,
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On November 01 2008 15:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Funny thing is, with Yarnc's good ZvT, you'd think he would compare vessels to archons and avoid attacking them with mutas, but no.
or compare corsairs to valks, but he's not doing a great job of that either ><;;
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WTF is yarnc doing running to the nat. His build is allin he can't win by killing probes at the nat for a while he has to break the main. Too late now. GG.
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2nd stargate coming for Jangbi AND Reaver bay. Yarnc needs to transition into something more feasiblem but there isnt much to do for him. Harasses the probes at the natural, but all mutas very damaged. Hydra den for Yarnc now.
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc's just running around inside jangbi's base, has about 8 muta trying to harass- he's probably gotten a total of about 5 probes+ goon+2 sairs
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On November 01 2008 15:18 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
yarnc must think that his muta micro is freaking awsome-he keeps going spire tech every game.
His muta micro IS freaking awesome
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United States17042 Posts
shuttle+reaver+4 sairs out for jangbi now to try to harass with. Or defend
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Hungary11291 Posts
Corsairs reach critical mass, some drop is heading for Yarnc's main base, I have no clue what is contained in that ship. Corsairs are moving in. Drop incoming, is it a reaver??
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United States10774 Posts
lol my stream just...completely froze.
T_T
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Hungary11291 Posts
Reaver drops but scarab is stupid as hell. Scourge catch the shuttle, reaver kills 5 drones in total.
Jangbi tried to expand yet again to his min only. Raping overlords at the natural right now, kills 4-5 in total. Now the mutas engage and melt under corsair fire.
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United States17042 Posts
third hatch for yarnc, plus evo chamber, and about 11 muta. reaver drop comes in gets 5 drones,
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United States17042 Posts
8 sairs out for jangbi- run in and get 3 ovies no problem (losing 2 sairs)
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Dang this is so over... Yarnc is out of ground units and overlords
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Jangbi is playing really relaxed
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Jangbi playing with yarnc now, killing all ols at nat even with hydra/spore there.
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United States17042 Posts
new reaver+shuttle out, with speed, and 7 sairs
yarnc taking down jangbi's third
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Hungary11291 Posts
Speed upgrade for shuttle now, apparently another Reaver is ready and being flewn in. Jangbi dropping the min only, killing some drones. Mutas come in to stop the min only from finishing, but Reaver is taking out some hydras in Yarncs main base. Min only nexus dies to Muta, shuttle heads to the natural, kills some more drones there. All mutas are caught.
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United States17042 Posts
yarnc just lost all of his muta ><;;
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Hungary11291 Posts
Jangbi still Reaver harassing, no Mutas left. Shuttle almost shot down by Hydras. Jangbi expanding to the min only yet again. Those are MANY cors. Hydras moving out for a last counter, but 2 reavers will stop them.
Massive overlord rape at the natural.
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yarnc's ols all got raped again.
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi just trying to find more space to harass with his shuttle, sairs still running around. Jangbi now has total air control, yarnc dosen't have enough hydra
8 ovies die to about 10 sairs
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Hungary11291 Posts
Yarnc will counter and fail. He sees that and retreats. Reaverdrop at min only, kills more.
GG, JANGBI ADVANCE.
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United States10774 Posts
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Wow gg already... that was a surprisingly fast series, considering how many people picked this 3:2
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Germany1908 Posts
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what a rape, no Z in MSL left
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi just runs over yarnc with good dt usage, good reaver usage. Anything that yarnc did, jangbi was ready for. I guess jangbi's practice time has been paying off.
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Easy call, but sad that Yarnc didn't put up a better fight.
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United States17042 Posts
kal vs jangbi is the next up on this side of the bracket.
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lol I knew it would be a 3:0
time for a neo neo neo protoss king rematch
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Liquibet updated, most people were correct of course.
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After watching how easy Jaedong made ZvP look last season, it kinda makes you wonder why zergs have trouble against protoss at all.
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United States17042 Posts
jaedong still lost though
the liquibet graph looked like:
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On November 01 2008 13:12 Essence wrote:
Jangbi 3-0 I believe!!!
Also, Stork 3-1 for OSL win, Khan tosses fighting~
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wow, Yarnc lasted a little longer...
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Hopefully, Stork can make this a 6-0 sweep before the night's over.
Man, Jangbi did not even flinch defending against that 5 pool. He must've practiced against that build quite a bit, and knew exactly what to do.
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wow that was quicker than i thought
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Damn, I did not expect Jangbi to crush Yellow so easily. Expecting a bit of fight tbh. Oh well, at least Jangbi advances.
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Wow, so onesided... I expected Jangbi to win but this ist just sad for Yarnc.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Holy shit Yarnc got rocked...
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This is sad because Yarnc doesnt have any good protoss players to practice with in OGN T_T I feel bad for him. Neither does Jangbi actually have a good zerg in Samsung but oh well.... the better player wins
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Heh, 3-0. Talk about ownage.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On November 01 2008 16:52 Ash wrote:
This is sad because Yarnc doesnt have any good protoss players to practice with in OGN T_T I feel bad for him. Neither does Jangbi actually have a good zerg in Samsung but oh well.... the better player wins
Practice isnt really team only. E.g. I read somewhere that Kal helped Stork to prepare against BeSt (obviously WITHOUT speculating to gain insight for their Ro8 match)
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On November 01 2008 18:06 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 16:52 Ash wrote:
This is sad because Yarnc doesnt have any good protoss players to practice with in OGN T_T I feel bad for him. Neither does Jangbi actually have a good zerg in Samsung but oh well.... the better player wins Practice isnt really team only. E.g. I read somewhere that Kal helped Stork to prepare against BeSt (obviously WITHOUT speculating to gain insight for their Ro8 match)
It is when you are OGN Sparkyz and everyone hates you.
Jokes aside, this was one of the biggest rapes I've seen in a long time. It almost looked like he had prepared this game against a much worse protoss, like his main training came from practising against Chalrenge. A good P is going to exploit every single weak point he finds, and during the game it looked like yarnc was thinking: hey, I didn't know protoss could counterattack or sneak DT's!
Pretty sad.
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On November 01 2008 18:06 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 16:52 Ash wrote:
This is sad because Yarnc doesnt have any good protoss players to practice with in OGN T_T I feel bad for him. Neither does Jangbi actually have a good zerg in Samsung but oh well.... the better player wins Practice isnt really team only. E.g. I read somewhere that Kal helped Stork to prepare against BeSt (obviously WITHOUT speculating to gain insight for their Ro8 match)
yeah he probably did practice with players from other teams, but I'm sure that having lousy protoss practice partners on a daily basis makes yarnc's zvp a lot worse than someone who has good protoss practice partners on their team. It's also no surprise that Lux was bad at ZvP too, since he was from OGN.
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hehe-jangbi v kal again...
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Yarnc loves his mutalisks a bit too much. This is not ZvT.
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was hoping yarnc would win just so we would watch another mu other than Pvp
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I have to say that Yarnc's muta micro Vs archons in game 2 was impressive though. It's just that he was 5 supply behind and about 7 workers behind after jangbi defended, and his almost all-in ling attack actually gave jangbi to get DT tech and win the game.
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Jju would've slapped Yarnc silly for losing to a Protoss like that.
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This outcome was expected...so sad...
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Ok, now Kal has the chance to do all Samsung kill, first Stork, now JangBi and finally FBH?:-)
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Savior 2:0 Jangbi in Blizcon. Jangbi 3:0 Yellow[arnc]
I cant imagine in what level Savior's ZvP.
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On November 02 2008 18:19 arbiter_md wrote:
Ok, now Kal has the chance to do all Samsung kill, first Stork, now JangBi and finally FBH?:-)
Can you drop the all kill crap? I mean the first time someone mentioned Flash all killing lecaf, it was interesting. Then Stork all killing skt1, yeah, yeah, ok. But if we are really going to start counting down Kal potentially all killing Khan, where does it end? Every msl/osl we look for the vague hope of an 'all kill' as if its interesting or relevant in some way?
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On November 03 2008 12:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 18:19 arbiter_md wrote:
Ok, now Kal has the chance to do all Samsung kill, first Stork, now JangBi and finally FBH?:-)
Can you drop the all kill crap? I mean the first time someone mentioned Flash all killing lecaf, it was interesting. Then Stork all killing skt1, yeah, yeah, ok. But if we are really going to start counting down Kal potentially all killing Khan, where does it end? Every msl/osl we look for the vague hope of an 'all kill' as if its interesting or relevant in some way?
i think all-kills are pretty interesting. i think jangbi will win this time though.
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well it's interesting because it could actually happen
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Keke I won 5 dollars from semioldguy for jangbi>yarnc.
It'll really suck if theres a all protoss semifinal though, I hope at least nada or FBH can make it through. Seems more likely that FBH can do it though, considering how free is playing.
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On November 03 2008 12:22 kramus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 12:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:On November 02 2008 18:19 arbiter_md wrote:
Ok, now Kal has the chance to do all Samsung kill, first Stork, now JangBi and finally FBH?:-)
Can you drop the all kill crap? I mean the first time someone mentioned Flash all killing lecaf, it was interesting. Then Stork all killing skt1, yeah, yeah, ok. But if we are really going to start counting down Kal potentially all killing Khan, where does it end? Every msl/osl we look for the vague hope of an 'all kill' as if its interesting or relevant in some way? i think all-kills are pretty interesting. i think jangbi will win this time though. Eh, I wasn't trying to come off hostile, I just want to kill what could become a tiring trend in the future. Every msl with someone screaming "xx could all kill yy" would be lame. In the long term. And yeah, Jangbi is 7-0...unless he meets bisu, this msl is all his. Which is why Im so torn, who do I support? Jangbi or Bisu? 
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On November 03 2008 13:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 12:22 kramus wrote:On November 03 2008 12:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:On November 02 2008 18:19 arbiter_md wrote:
Ok, now Kal has the chance to do all Samsung kill, first Stork, now JangBi and finally FBH?:-)
Can you drop the all kill crap? I mean the first time someone mentioned Flash all killing lecaf, it was interesting. Then Stork all killing skt1, yeah, yeah, ok. But if we are really going to start counting down Kal potentially all killing Khan, where does it end? Every msl/osl we look for the vague hope of an 'all kill' as if its interesting or relevant in some way? i think all-kills are pretty interesting. i think jangbi will win this time though. Eh, I wasn't trying to come off hostile, I just want to kill what could become a tiring trend in the future. Every msl with someone screaming "xx could all kill yy" would be lame. In the long term. And yeah, Jangbi is 7-0...unless he meets bisu, this msl is all his. Which is why Im so torn, who do I support? Jangbi or Bisu?
How could it be a lame trend? The oppurtunity to all-kill a team in a starleague rarely even presents itself, and even more rarely actually happens.
All kills are pretty interesting too, idk why you freaked out like that. It's not like it is some stupid meme.
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This is Firebathero's MSL...or Bisu's...or Nada's...okay, I don't know...
Good show by Jangbi though, not so much for Yarnc. I'm actually a bit disappointed over the games though...
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On November 02 2008 07:12 sung_moon wrote:was hoping yarnc would win just so we would watch another mu other than Pvp
Protoss OWNS YOUR SOUL !
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