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[MSL] Ro8: Stork vs Kal - Page 26

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Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
October 30 2008 11:27 GMT
#501
YES GO KAL!
Mada Mada Dane
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 30 2008 11:28 GMT
#502
Kal = Shit in russian. I wanted stork to win so much...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
October 30 2008 11:29 GMT
#503
Also I know Stork has been practicing for OSL but Kal flat out dominated the three games he won, including having the inferior position on Medusa, game 2 was a great back and forth game, and game 4 was excellent by Stork (though if the DT got out...).

I've always liked Stork but he just isn't a killer - doesn't have it in him. Take away the meticulous preparation (like for the Best series) and he doesn't have that extra intangible to carry him through a side-series that he should win on paper. It's a testament to Stork's skill that the series still went 5 games. Props to Kal though, as he almost swept the series, and was in no danger of losing any of the games that he won.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
October 30 2008 11:29 GMT
#504
So, do we think this loss will affect stork's performance against Fantasy?
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
October 30 2008 11:29 GMT
#505
On October 30 2008 20:25 []p4NDemik[] wrote:
I challenge any Protoss to win two PvP Bo5's in less than a week while also practicing for the OSL finals. Stork put up a hell of a fight considering the circumstances.


PLS more excuses. He himself said that it doesnt even mater if hes in 1 league or 7.. he will practice rly hard. And if he pracced for the bo5 with best he should have been equally prepared for this or even more prepared.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 30 2008 11:29 GMT
#506
On October 30 2008 20:26 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:25 economist_ wrote:
Omg, Hope he is not going to crash, OSL is just around the corner
stork doesn't look like he cares too much, he's preparing for the finals and just winged this series

you cant just wing this series like that, besides absolutely nothing can excuse storks performance today, he is like the PvP god right? and he was playing against a toss with under 50% win rate in this MU.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Paddington
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia254 Posts
October 30 2008 11:29 GMT
#507
Best owes Kal a few hundred beers. Also, I wouldn't write Stork off based on this series, the gravitas of this match is much less than his OSL final tomorrow, I doubt Stork would've been practicing anything but PvT the last few days...

Still...

FUCK YEAH KAL!
"A friend of mine walks around the city counting Asian male/white female couples, which he gives +10 score, and white male/Asian female couples, which he gives -1 score. At the end of the day, the score is always negative. It makes him sad"
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 30 2008 11:29 GMT
#508
The schedule is really messing up Stork right now. I mean, in a span of a week, he has

OSL Semi Bo5, against P
MSL Ro16 2 games against T
GOM Bo3 against Z
MSL Ro8 Bo5 against P
OSL Finals against T

That is just totally F**ked up.

If Stork had any chance to prepare, I strongly doubt Kal could've taken this series.
Meh
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
October 30 2008 11:30 GMT
#509
On October 30 2008 20:26 foodontable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:25 Plexa wrote:
on a serious note, this is Bisu's MSL


fixed


Except there's a good chance Bisu will play Free, and Free usually ends up winning
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 30 2008 11:30 GMT
#510
On October 30 2008 20:29 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:26 Plexa wrote:
On October 30 2008 20:25 economist_ wrote:
Omg, Hope he is not going to crash, OSL is just around the corner
stork doesn't look like he cares too much, he's preparing for the finals and just winged this series

you cant just wing this series like that, besides absolutely nothing can excuse storks performance today, he is like the PvP god right? and he was playing against a toss with under 50% win rate in this MU.
Kal's pvp stats are way off his real skill
Stork didn't play terribly, but watch his series against best and tell me that he was playing with the same level of intensity in this match.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 30 2008 11:31 GMT
#511
On October 30 2008 20:28 Magic84 wrote:
Kal = Shit in russian. I wanted stork to win so much...

It's feces not shit.
dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
October 30 2008 11:31 GMT
#512
thats the demands of a progamer
i mean you have to concentrate on priorities, and obviously stork valued the OSL finals more
lets see if his gamble falls flat or he wins gold...
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
October 30 2008 11:31 GMT
#513
Seriously, I feel like the winner of this MSL is coming from the right side of the bracket.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 30 2008 11:32 GMT
#514
On October 30 2008 20:30 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:29 disciple wrote:
On October 30 2008 20:26 Plexa wrote:
On October 30 2008 20:25 economist_ wrote:
Omg, Hope he is not going to crash, OSL is just around the corner
stork doesn't look like he cares too much, he's preparing for the finals and just winged this series

you cant just wing this series like that, besides absolutely nothing can excuse storks performance today, he is like the PvP god right? and he was playing against a toss with under 50% win rate in this MU.
Kal's pvp stats are way off his real skill
Stork didn't play terribly, but watch his series against best and tell me that he was playing with the same level of intensity in this match.


stork played today exactly the way he did against Bisu in OSL. Vs BeSt Stork just outdid himself
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
October 30 2008 11:34 GMT
#515
Stork 2 gate robo is weak. Keep getting outnumbered.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 30 2008 11:35 GMT
#516
On October 30 2008 20:34 Baddieko wrote:
Stork 2 gate robo is weak. Keep getting outnumbered.

exactly, he barely made it against Bisu and the game he lost against BeSt had similar scenario
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 30 2008 11:35 GMT
#517
On October 30 2008 20:31 TheTyranid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:28 Magic84 wrote:
Kal = Shit in russian. I wanted stork to win so much...

It's feces not shit.

feces is "фекалии". kal is used as a stronger word most of the time.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
October 30 2008 11:37 GMT
#518
On October 30 2008 20:25 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:24 darktreb wrote:
Anyone who thinks Stork has gotten over his problems with nerves and choking in big games should take a look at game 5. And this wasn't even another finals (but it was a good preview of what the finals will look like when Fantasy rolls Stork).
whatttt you have no idea what you're talking about
that wasn;t stork choking that was him fucking up the first fight (happens in PvP) and then being on the back foot for the rest of the game

kals reaver just sealed the deal - nerves never entered the equation


Perhaps my wording was too harsh (nerves + choke = exaggeration), but the point is Stork definitely still does not have that extra killer instinct to seal the deal.

I know Kal's a great player but didn't we all just get done talking about how Stork had anointed himself the best PvP ever? And he turns around and loses a PvP, BO5 no less, to a guy who has never been renowned for his PvP. And yeah, the first fight in PvP is a tossup, but that's what players with nerves of steel are all about - they seem to always win the tossups in big games.

I will admit, Kal either got lucky or was very very smart/good with that Reaver in game 5 ... I thought for sure it was going to die but I guess the advantage of having the Shuttle pop out of nowhere from over the cliff was enough to keep it from getting sniped. One way or another, Kal stepped up and made all the big plays in the big game, and Stork really did nothing that was even above mediocre for a pro except maybe his dealing with the manner-Pylon (he still lost a Probe by the way).

So again, maybe it's not a blatant choke like goon range, and Stork wasn't as out of it as he was in the Flash domination, but when push comes to shove, Stork doesn't step up. In my book (you may disagree), not stepping up when you're a superior player is choking, or at least nerves. Like Hot_Bid said, Stork's just another Karl Malone.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 30 2008 11:38 GMT
#519
On October 30 2008 20:32 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 20:30 Plexa wrote:
On October 30 2008 20:29 disciple wrote:
On October 30 2008 20:26 Plexa wrote:
On October 30 2008 20:25 economist_ wrote:
Omg, Hope he is not going to crash, OSL is just around the corner
stork doesn't look like he cares too much, he's preparing for the finals and just winged this series

you cant just wing this series like that, besides absolutely nothing can excuse storks performance today, he is like the PvP god right? and he was playing against a toss with under 50% win rate in this MU.
Kal's pvp stats are way off his real skill
Stork didn't play terribly, but watch his series against best and tell me that he was playing with the same level of intensity in this match.


stork played today exactly the way he did against Bisu in OSL. Vs BeSt Stork just outdid himself
Huh? even against bisu he played better than this. Stork was all over bisu with observers and played true to his style. I saw none of that this time around.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
jac
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden115 Posts
October 30 2008 11:39 GMT
#520
If you have a practise for a final and a quarter, it's quite obvious that you will prioritize the final.
Just compare todays games to the ones against Best. Thought, I hope this doesn't affect Stork mentally for the final.
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