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Artosis
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Fantastic!
I just watched through type-b vs. HwaSIn.
Is there any way you could possibly mute the Korean commentators, though?
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On October 27 2008 14:56 shavingcream66 wrote: link to VOD's ? the links are there o.O;;
Thanks for the vods you guys make a good team will watch later
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Artosis
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On October 27 2008 15:01 Sudyn wrote: Fantastic!
I just watched through type-b vs. HwaSIn.
Is there any way you could possibly mute the Korean commentators, though?
currently i can change the background noise level overall (it includes music, game sounds, and korean commentators.) im not good enough (dont know even if its possible) to take out the korean commentators. if u think the level should be lower, please let me know. that kind of feedback is invaluable.
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Awesome. I'll watch some of these.
edit: Glancing at the first two VODs, I have a hard time hearing you and Daniel over the Korean commentators. Even if there were no sound at all (other than you and Daniel) it would be better than it is right now. Hope you figure out the technical stuff
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Really great stuff Artosis (and Daniel Lee!) I am not going to get any study done tonight thanks to this.
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OMG it still does not stream on pause. Please allow to buffer whole vod it can't be that hard to change in code right? It is impossible to watch on 512kb. now whithout buffering every like 30 sec.
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On October 27 2008 15:04 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2008 15:01 Sudyn wrote: Fantastic!
I just watched through type-b vs. HwaSIn.
Is there any way you could possibly mute the Korean commentators, though? currently i can change the background noise level overall (it includes music, game sounds, and korean commentators.) im not good enough (dont know even if its possible) to take out the korean commentators. if u think the level should be lower, please let me know. that kind of feedback is invaluable. Noticed the same thing. If I'm going to watch a commentary that is over a Korean VOD, I like it when there's still some volume from the original VOD, so that you can hear the unit attack sounds and stuff, but not so much that the Korean commentary makes it difficult to follow your commentary.
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Artosis
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should i drop the background volume down a bit more? really if anyone would just post what they think regarding that i can fix it, thx.
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Yes please lower the background volume. It's as loud or louder than your voice.
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Katowice25012 Posts
I agree with drop background volume. This is cool as hell though, thanks!
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United States3824 Posts
That so cool I wish I could watch them
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Artosis, all the 'Ace' match links go to 'Team Ace' in tlpd because its 'tlpdized'. Its better to put Game 5 or something similar.
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Yes, lowering the volume should do the job.
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Very cool vods as usual. I really like Daniel's anecdotes, the story about challrenge crying after he threw away a won game made me laugh.
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Awesome. Thanks for doing this, it really helps lots of people follow proleague.
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very cool indeed. and I do hope that the live commentary idea happens, that'd be very sweet. This is gonna be the only time when ive actually been excited to hear english commentary on proleague vods(usually I prefer korean over poor english commentary) :O
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Germany2762 Posts
that's very cool. i'm looking forward to watching thouse vods commentated by you two.
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Awesome, thanks so much! :o
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thanks! im bookmarking this right now.
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Please make it so that if can buffer when paused. Your streams are some of the worst there are, I'm sure there's some good free programs that allow you to make better vods that you can actually wait to load instead of having if buffer every 5 seconds. The commentating is really good though.
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Awesome as always. Thanks.
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It's still out of sync and Daniel still screams too loudly in his mic so the sounds breaks up every now and then. Also, consider the volume you both have vs the original commentators.
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Hey Artosis this is really cool! I have trouble finding good english commentary for the Proleague (not to say I dont enjoy Korean commentary) and this will be really sweet to watch. You should commentate the eSTRO vs SKT match if its interesting enough to you, it was a huge upset. I didnt catch all the games but from what I saw it was decent.
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On October 27 2008 15:13 Artosis wrote: should i drop the background volume down a bit more? really if anyone would just post what they think regarding that i can fix it, thx.
Yes --- dropping background noise would make it 100x better.

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On October 27 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote: Please make it so that if can buffer when paused. Your streams are some of the worst there are, I'm sure there's some good free programs that allow you to make better vods that you can actually wait to load instead of having if buffer every 5 seconds. The commentating is really good though.
Yes, if you could make it buffer instead of true streaming, then it would help a lot of people who are on slower connections.
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wow. that flash vs jaehoon game was amazing. A must see.
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WTF, Thank you Daniel Lee. I can't believe Stork was slumping because of WoW rofl.
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oohhh, sweet! I'm just about to go to sleep so I cant't watch any now, but this seems really cool! Liked your spirit vods a lot, and I dont see how it can be worse with progamers on both sides. 
Looking forwards to watch them, and I will give feedback if I think of something.
Thanks guys!! <3
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this is the best thign ever
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pls try to upload it on youtube, if it's not a big trouble.
I prefer that because i can dl from youtube with DownloadHelper.
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Nice vods, coming em coming please
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It works somehow better now I can stream like 4 minutes or so at once. So you will make any more becouse I don't know if I should watch vods or wait for your commentary.
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Perfect timing now that my midterms are over! Thanks a lot to both you guys.
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On October 28 2008 04:04 Athos wrote: WTF, Thank you Daniel Lee. I can't believe Stork was slumping because of WoW rofl. LOL, which VOD?
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so awesome, Daniel Lee is so great with his little tidbits about the progamers :D
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I would lower the background just a tad. Great commentating. Really fun to listen to you guys and get the little background info. about the players. Makes them seem more personal.
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On October 29 2008 01:10 Polis wrote: So you will make any more becouse I don't know if I should watch vods or wait for your commentary. Yea, I think I am gonna just watch vods twice if necessary, once with incomprehensible korean and once with Dan & Super Dan giving their awesome commentaries :O
great job guys, hope to keep seeing more. I also love the daily scforall translations of fomos articles.. that site is a gold mine right now for SC coverage.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
lmao I'm a hardcore Daniel Lee fan.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY :D
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On October 27 2008 15:04 Artosis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2008 15:01 Sudyn wrote: Fantastic!
I just watched through type-b vs. HwaSIn.
Is there any way you could possibly mute the Korean commentators, though? currently i can change the background noise level overall (it includes music, game sounds, and korean commentators.) im not good enough (dont know even if its possible) to take out the korean commentators. if u think the level should be lower, please let me know. that kind of feedback is invaluable.
There's no way you can possibly take out the Korean commentators from VODs. It's all mixed down to one audio channel and there's no program that's highly distributed and completely effective that splits the mixdown.
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On October 29 2008 02:12 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2008 04:04 Athos wrote: WTF, Thank you Daniel Lee. I can't believe Stork was slumping because of WoW rofl. LOL, which VOD? 
The game with Stork vs Zero.
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daniel lee is awesome in so many levels, keep the good work you 2!
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your game 5 link of khan vs woongjin seems to broken as it shows game 1 ;; but hilarious commentary throughout these matches
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I love this, but I hate having to turn the volume down every time Daniel Lee talks, and turning it back up when Artosis talks. :D
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Artosis commentary
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I was so pumped for these but it's still really hard to hear you guys over the background noise with the speakers I'm using- I think you should just get rid of it entirely (or make it quiet enough so you can only hear the koreans when they start yelling about something, which is fun to listen to anyway ).
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poor dt... har har
dan so good
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"You know I'm not so sure, Dan..."
<3 <3
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HOLY SHIT NICE... now you just took my homework time away...
btw: you ditched ascension! D:> well i guess this is more fun and important for you anyways.
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Artosis
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UPDATE: A few new matches up. still some bugs getting worked out. some of these vods + all future ones will have lower korean commentator sounds. please keep leaving feedback on sound levels etc. really helps me to tune it in correctly.
see first page for the new matches put up.
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Amazing dude. Thanks so much Artosis...I'll watch when I have more time away from school.
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Awesome stuff, especially with the lower background volume.
Unfortunately many of the vods don't seem to work for me, at least the following: KTF vs ACE game 1, Woongjin vs. STX game 2, OGN vs. STX last game. No problems with some of the others.
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Artosis actually makes TvT seem bearable, that's the biggest compliment I could ever give to a caster =O
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Oh yeah, Artosis. For criticism, use the correct terms. Some people get annoyed by "Red Archon" and "Irridate", it would be much better if you used the correct words. Not much else to criticize, it's excellent all around.
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Awesome, been hoping this would happen!
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United States13896 Posts
These new commentaries were great - the sound was much better.
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why does the stx v stars game 3 have no eng commentary just korean?
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oh by the way someone probably should update ogn tlpd page cloud not captain anymore isnt it zeus now?
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Canada9720 Posts
LOL @ fbh vs sea.really and artosis' cries of "NOOO" to d lee's dancing
very well done, guys
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Best english commentating duo in starcraft!
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Artosis
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My audio is desynched in G5 OGN vs. CJ. When you were talking about the zerglings vs. marines with Leta's micro or the overlord kill it was >10s before the video caught up to the audio. That continued throughout the game even after reloading the video.
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Artosis
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On October 31 2008 13:37 NovaTheFeared wrote: My audio is desynched in G5 OGN vs. CJ. When you were talking about the zerglings vs. marines with Leta's micro or the overlord kill it was >10s before the video caught up to the audio. That continued throughout the game even after reloading the video.
hm that sucks sorry about that. i think i know what went wrong there. ill keep an eye out and see if i cant fix it in the future. thx for the input.
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No problem, thanks for this feature it's great.
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Great stuff. Best English commentary I've heard so far. Loved the random facts/stories like eStro owning SKT1 in soccer.
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umm some of these games are really out of sync that last match seemed so.. bit of an annoyance honeslty
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I always seem to have a problem with the last minute or so with the VODs...it plays smoothly throughout the game until right after the "gg" and it starts to lag, have you guys got the new server yet?
I've also noticed that the audio isn't quite in sync with the video
but other than that keep it up! The commentaries are awesome =P
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bump, im really appreciating this.
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Artosis
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Great, thanx, will you two do OSL finals too?
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Thanks ... love the commentating especially Daniel Lee's insane amount of knowledge
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i signed up to tell you i love these commentaries :D
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Artosis
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Love all the commentaries but would it be possible to differentiate between the ones with Daniel Lee in them and the ones without (for when someone has a time crunch...)
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Thanks for the commentaries. That Hyuk vs Fist was nice.
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Im loving these. Please do more .
edit: Hyuk vs Firefist commentary was great.
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Artosis
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You have mislabeled the Boxer vs. Magma game, it links to oversky vs sangho.
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Thanks again Artosis. Gonna roast a fatty and watch the ACE game now!
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Artosis
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On November 10 2008 14:54 conCentrate9 wrote: You have mislabeled the Boxer vs. Magma game, it links to oversky vs sangho.
oops thx fixed
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It seems you've labeled the game incorrectly on scforall. For example; when I click Boxer vs Magma in your post I get taken to a page that says 'fOru VS teSteR..[gm]' but the actual video is the Boxer game.
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Ok, they are labeled wrong. But the game is what Artosis says they are.
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really good commentaries, but artosis needs to be more cheerfull/excited when commentating on his own without daniel, he sounds as serious and somber as if someone died :/
other than that, great work! love the strategic insight and dan's goofiness :D
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On November 14 2008 00:57 WiljushkA wrote: really good commentaries, but artosis needs to be more cheerfull/excited when commentating on his own without daniel, he sounds as serious and somber as if someone died :/ I actually like that about his commentaries. Less screaming / shouting / 'oh my god' / 'trashtalk' and thus more talking / analyzing.
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On November 14 2008 02:04 gm.tOSS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2008 00:57 WiljushkA wrote: really good commentaries, but artosis needs to be more cheerfull/excited when commentating on his own without daniel, he sounds as serious and somber as if someone died :/ I actually like that about his commentaries. Less screaming / shouting / 'oh my god' / 'trashtalk' and thus more talking / analyzing. What, you don't like Klazart's 400wpm commentaries? =P
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My piece of feedback :
I really like yo*BUFFERING*
for me you are simply the b*BUFFERING* tator out there, you have both*BUFFERING* in depth, good voice, humour, every*BUFFERING* *BUFFERING*
So it just A FUCKING SHAM*BUFFERING* can't see the VO*BUFFERING*
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For Airforce Ace vs Estro, some of the links are mixed or the videos refuse to work. Although if you click around you can find Daezang and Boxer matches, theres no Oversky
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On November 14 2008 02:04 gm.tOSS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2008 00:57 WiljushkA wrote: really good commentaries, but artosis needs to be more cheerfull/excited when commentating on his own without daniel, he sounds as serious and somber as if someone died :/ I actually like that about his commentaries. Less screaming / shouting / 'oh my god' / 'trashtalk' and thus more talking / analyzing.
im not saying he should start screaming for every reaver scarab, just that he should put a little more life into it
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On November 14 2008 03:12 Murlox wrote: My piece of feedback :
I really like yo*BUFFERING*
for me you are simply the b*BUFFERING* tator out there, you have both*BUFFERING* in depth, good voice, humour, every*BUFFERING* *BUFFERING*
So it just A FUCKING SHAM*BUFFERING* can't see the VO*BUFFERING*
Right click on the screen. Choose properties(or something equivalent... since I can't be sure due to using Chinese windows). Click the folder tag. Set it to unlimited amount of space allowed for download.
Then start the stream. Pause and let it buffer for a while so it doesn't keep getting screwed.
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Thanks so much Artosis... great job!!
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Hey dan ,
As you probably have noticed , I've loved your work at sc2gg for the begining and your casting before that, I was just posting here to give you some feedback since I'm work working this hard (and much!) you would like some ....
You are doing a great fucking job me and my buddies sync up on msn and watch the proleague matches together and more or less agree you are the best castor around. Solo dan is actually better then paired up dan imo.
Gj
-Attackzerg
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On November 14 2008 22:06 AttackZerg wrote: Solo dan is actually better then paired up dan imo. QFT
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On November 17 2008 23:14 WebOfMaya wrote: What does QFT mean? qft
quote for truth.
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Artosis
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In this first game so far the korean commentators seem loud compared to Daniel Lee, but I like how your voice sounds over it.
Thanks!
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I feel compelled to mention to anyone reading this thread (although they probably already saw the games already) Artosis did Kal vs. Jangbi in the MSL with Daniel Lee.
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awesome as always artosis, ty.
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Man, these are awesome, I actually get a better idea whats going on in the games now. I sorta have a problem of tuning out when watching regular korean commentated matches. So this is great.
The Ace versus Estro Matches were epic! It was like perfectly played games.
+ Show Spoiler +by Ace Anyways.
Like, Daezangs manner pylon sealed the game.
Oversky made the other guy waste a cannon, perfectly executed 2 hatch play, especially for that map.
And Boxer is always awesome. He didn't even get touched for the first ten minutes because of the valks! Very important especially against magma. Great strategy.
And I sorta feel for the Estro team on their games, because you live in the Estro house. Its like your home team. Like football, you always want them to win! So I sorta have sympathy for them, they aren't bad players, they are just really young and inexperienced.
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Artosis, you rock man. I've watched every game you've posted that has a Terran in it. Your commentary is very insightful and I love your dry humor. In my opinion, you blow all other commentators out of the water! I look forward to more. Please keep 'em coming. You are a pleasure to listen to.
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Great commentaries i enjoyed them quite a bit. you two are a great team, very informative and funny.
Some feedback:
The commentor that was a coach; his mic crackles when he gets loud. The other does a little bit but not nearly as bad as his. He needs a new mic or mess with his settings somehow. Does his mic have one of those foam pads over the mic?
Also the comments from people on that website often spoil the game. not sure if there's anything you can do about that.
Also the flash vs boxer october26 does not work for me.
edit: + Show Spoiler +
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Artosis
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i just watched the game Best vs piano and the sound is not synced, abit frustrating;) anyway keep it coming i love english commentary.
I dont know if the other games are synced or not, havent watched yet.
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ya the past 2 matches iv been having sound syncing issue
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Artosis
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Nice artosis, much <3 The syncing is a tad annoing but its not to bad
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i really like these vods but it seems that you know the results before commentating. Takes away abit of the exitement, but maybe im wrong
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For me the Best v Piano match had some sort of delay between what you guys were saying and when it would actually happen in the game. Not sure if that's just a problem for me or if it was for everyone. Either way it was a good game and I'm surprised how well piano did.
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Hyvaa vs Kwarno is hilarious commentary.
"see like, hyvaa looks like a zergling" - Daniel Lee
The dans are the mans.
Yeah, the syncing was a little messed up. But thats okay.
Also, this may just be a small problem, but I often look at the listings of the games to watch. Like for the english commentaries, and the results are sorta spoiled already for me. I mean i could just look through the games through each numbered page. But bleh, I want to just watch english commentaries.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On some VODs, the commentary is like 10 seconds ahead. Everything else is good though, nice job.
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On November 23 2008 07:08 KizZBG wrote: On some VODs, the commentary is like 10 seconds ahead. Everything else is good though, nice job. What I said
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On November 20 2008 14:18 teckman wrote: Also the flash vs boxer october26 does not work for me.
me neither
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Artosis, please keep these coming, I/we ( I assume ) are really enjoying these :O
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He did CJ vs Khan but just didn't update here.
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I don't get it: I have a broadband connexion and I can't watch a single vod on this f*** website because of lag/buffering.
Why don't you upload that on youtube and put it as a link?
I mean, SCforall just sucks so much: I just don't even try anymore to watch anything there.
That's a pity cuz I love your commentaries.
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I got a 1mb connection and they don't buffer at all anymore.
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Artosis
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Artosis - Thanks so much for doing these! With so many games per week, It's frustrating to watch Korean commentary for every game.
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thx artosis a lot for your comments. Jangbi vs effort really was a great great game. So much multi-tasking and good fights. wow.
Jangbi is a great PvZ player (much better than his PvP e.g), but nevertheless Effort beat him.
And, Daniel Lee was sooo right about July. I mean good looks are so important nowadays that it really is a shame.
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Buffering... so bad... can't handle it... head explode...
Why must they only be uploaded to SCforall? I have no problems streaming from any other site - just that one.
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These games are great, the Dans are so insightful, but I'm sad at the lack of English commentated games where Jaedong wins in a non-ZvZ match. TT
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nice nice ! Thank you Artosis
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On December 06 2008 11:30 EscPlan9 wrote: Buffering... so bad... can't handle it... head explode...
Why must they only be uploaded to SCforall? I have no problems streaming from any other site - just that one.
You just have to change the settings of your flash player, then it becomes easy. Right now it buffers only 100k which is almost nothing. You have to right-click on the flash player, then press "Settings", then choose the "Folder Tab" and move the little arrow completely to the right. Then the buffering is unlimited and it will load the complete VOD like youtube does. GL
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On December 06 2008 17:53 Drazzzt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2008 11:30 EscPlan9 wrote: Buffering... so bad... can't handle it... head explode...
Why must they only be uploaded to SCforall? I have no problems streaming from any other site - just that one. You just have to change the settings of your flash player, then it becomes easy. Right now it buffers only 100k which is almost nothing. You have to right-click on the flash player, then press "Settings", then choose the "Folder Tab" and move the little arrow completely to the right. Then the buffering is unlimited and it will load the complete VOD like youtube does. GL Sweet, didn't know that. Thanks
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I love the detailed talk about strategy
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Hi Artosis, please do today´s proleague SKT vs Lecaf ^_^
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why need english comment? korean is much better
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On December 23 2008 21:29 )aguar wrote: why need english comment? korean is much better Are you stupid or something?
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On December 06 2008 17:53 Drazzzt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2008 11:30 EscPlan9 wrote: Buffering... so bad... can't handle it... head explode...
Why must they only be uploaded to SCforall? I have no problems streaming from any other site - just that one. You just have to change the settings of your flash player, then it becomes easy. Right now it buffers only 100k which is almost nothing. You have to right-click on the flash player, then press "Settings", then choose the "Folder Tab" and move the little arrow completely to the right. Then the buffering is unlimited and it will load the complete VOD like youtube does. GL
As we discussed in PM - this does not work for me. I have Adobe Flash Player 10 and can slide the arrow over to Unlimited. However, it reports that SC4ALL is using 0KB and doesn't buffer correctly.
You also mentioned you don't see a box in that same window that says "Never Ask Me Again" (remember my settings, basically). Whenever I check that box, the slider moves ALL the way to the left.
There needs to be a better workaround or solution.
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I think for the by.great vs sKyHigh @ New Harmony game the audio is a few seconds ahead of the video.
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I watch proleague whenever I have spare time, this is really great stuff, I never been able to do it before because I was either lazy to download torrents or whatever, but scforall is awesome. Again, thank you Artosis and Daniel Lee, and others.
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