• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:25
CEST 00:25
KST 07:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10
Community News
Artosis vs Ret Showmatch3Classic wins RSL Revival Season 22Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update259BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Storm change is a essentially a strict buff on PTR Classic wins RSL Revival Season 2 Code S RO4 & Finals Preview - Cure, Dark, Maru, Creator Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Prome's Evo #1 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo) Monday Nights Weeklies RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Barracks Gamble vs Mini BW General Discussion Artosis vs Ret Showmatch Whose hotkey signature is this? [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL20] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War! Path of Exile Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[AI] JoCo is Eminem for com…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2155 users

[PL] KHAN vs SKTT1 - Page 12

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 All
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
October 04 2008 21:36 GMT
#221
Firebathero vs Protoss is money in the bank.
FBH is insurance.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 04 2008 23:36 GMT
#222
Holy crap, BeSt is such a monster these days. It brings a tear to my eye

If you can beat Midas in PvT and Hyuk in ZvZ but still lose to T1 on a night when one of their best players is incapacitated by MSL play (fantasy).....T1 is going to be fucking scary this season.

Now time to roll Jaedong and Oz!

BEST FIGHTING
T1 FIGHTING
✌
c0stc0dud1
Profile Joined January 2008
United States144 Posts
October 05 2008 01:48 GMT
#223
They should have put Stork on Andromeda, he can even snipe zergs there
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
October 05 2008 01:56 GMT
#224
On October 05 2008 08:36 jwd241224 wrote:
Holy crap, BeSt is such a monster these days. It brings a tear to my eye

If you can beat Midas in PvT and Hyuk in ZvZ but still lose to T1 on a night when one of their best players is incapacitated by MSL play (fantasy).....T1 is going to be fucking scary this season.

Now time to roll Jaedong and Oz!

BEST FIGHTING
T1 FIGHTING

We haven't seen much of fantasy except his great TvT.
Jaedong
timchi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States57 Posts
October 05 2008 03:01 GMT
#225
best ftw.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-05 03:08:54
October 05 2008 03:07 GMT
#226
On October 05 2008 10:56 xenero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2008 08:36 jwd241224 wrote:
Holy crap, BeSt is such a monster these days. It brings a tear to my eye

If you can beat Midas in PvT and Hyuk in ZvZ but still lose to T1 on a night when one of their best players is incapacitated by MSL play (fantasy).....T1 is going to be fucking scary this season.

Now time to roll Jaedong and Oz!

BEST FIGHTING
T1 FIGHTING

We haven't seen much of fantasy except his great TvT.


I'm not so sure fantasy's best matchup is even TvT. It seems to me that foreign coverage has kind of just latched on to "monster of TvT" as the token description for him and I don't think that's really substantiated with his game performances.

I guess this idea came from the fact that he beat NaDa in qualifying for both leagues, but, let's face it, NaDa isn't nearly top-tier TvT anymore (think FBH, Hwasin, Flash, Canata, so many others) and, plus, all four of those games were extremely competitive. It's not like fantasy really demolished NaDa.

Other than that...he beat a very nervous-looking Sea in a BO game and then totally outplayed Mind (which shouldn't really be that surprising, Mind sucks at TvT IMO). I'm just saying I don't see any evidence for all of these claims that fantasy is a TvT player.

Actually, I think fantasy's TvP is his signature matchup. Last PL we saw T1 trot him out on typically-Protoss maps (Colosseum, Andromeda) to try and snipe good Ps and he did a pretty decent job. For evidence, check his game against Pure on Andromeda. fantasy was still a bit rough around the edges here - one bad army placement and a good timing by Pure lost him the game - but there is definitely evidence of his strong TvP mechanics in that game.

Furthermore, fantasy's most impressive recent game is without a doubt his game against BackHo on Chupung-Ryeong. fantasy showed ingenious vulture control that basically put the game totally in his hands - BackHo was completely incapacitated. This was a win that impressed like none of his TvTs.

Anyway, I think fantasy is more of a good all-around player than a "TvT guy" and even the idea that he is a "TvT player" is pretty much false. Not many people knew much about him when he blew into both Starleagues, and this TvT thing happened to be the line that was attached to his name. There's really not much more to it than that.

Point being, fantasy's play of late shows, above all, that his mechanics are simply at a much higher level than they were during the last PL season, and that means he'll be a huge asset for T1 now - in all matchups.
✌
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
October 05 2008 03:22 GMT
#227
goo BeSt!! go SKT1!!
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
October 05 2008 06:59 GMT
#228
lol FBH says "ssi bal sae ki" right after he loses against BeSt.
SNSD fan
dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
October 05 2008 07:52 GMT
#229
On October 05 2008 15:59 CapO wrote:
lol FBH says "ssi bal sae ki" right after he loses against BeSt.


wat does that mean?
nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
October 05 2008 09:01 GMT
#230
On October 05 2008 16:52 dongfeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2008 15:59 CapO wrote:
lol FBH says "ssi bal sae ki" right after he loses against BeSt.


wat does that mean?


it means + Show Spoiler +
fucker
in korean
dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
October 05 2008 12:04 GMT
#231
oic ta
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
October 05 2008 12:08 GMT
#232
screenshot plz
#1 Terran hater
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
October 05 2008 13:37 GMT
#233
don't say a dumb guess as if it's the fact.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 05 2008 14:41 GMT
#234
My god best is beast. First Frozean and then FBH O_O

And I agree, fantasy has insane mechanics.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
October 05 2008 18:55 GMT
#235
Did FBH say fucker ?
Best[hyo] ftw
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
October 05 2008 20:42 GMT
#236
i'd say it too if i got raped.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 05 2008 20:46 GMT
#237
On October 05 2008 04:37 Hyperionnn wrote:
Who said best's pvt is bad?

yeah who said?
fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
October 05 2008 20:48 GMT
#238
who said?
Best[hyo] ftw
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
October 05 2008 22:00 GMT
#239
What a enjoyable game
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
Carkling
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany169 Posts
October 05 2008 22:45 GMT
#240
bisu played so amazing ...

well even google knows about his build, who wonders that he won?

[image loading]
Prev 1 10 11 12 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 261
CosmosSc2 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 413
Mini 384
firebathero 111
NaDa 18
Dota 2
monkeys_forever519
Counter-Strike
Foxcn391
Super Smash Bros
PPMD76
AZ_Axe48
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor157
Other Games
Grubby3010
summit1g2272
shahzam434
B2W.Neo276
ToD236
Sick211
C9.Mang0157
Trikslyr52
Maynarde22
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV54
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 64
• davetesta33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1035
• Shiphtur324
Other Games
• imaqtpie1970
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
1h 36m
LiuLi Cup
12h 36m
OSC
15h 36m
The PondCast
1d 11h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Serral vs herO
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.