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Week 2, Day 1 17th of September, 18.30 KST
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+ Show Spoiler +July > Bisu | both now 1-1 in their group GGPlay > Light | both now 1-1. Luxury < Midas | both now 1-1. Stork > fantasy | Stork now 2-0, fantasy 1-1
Surprise+ Show Spoiler +The general feeling of many people when walking through the world is the one of constant decline. "Back in the days", they use to say, "back then, everything was better, more organized, people used to put some effort into things". And so on. Imagine the surprise when the OSL is coming up. Not any playday, a loaded one. And there is no remotely as awesome thread available as for last friday. You know, one of 'em with pict'sers and like. So you go to create one and back in your brain is that lingering feeling that there is something missing. The awesomeness that this playday is. Does nobody remember the drama between Bisu and July from Bacchus? When Bisu disconnected, already beaten by a quick hydra bust, but short before having his first DT ready? When they both met again in tiebreakers and the revolutionist took it with ultra-safe play? July afterwards came back to the OSL - to claim his third title, sweeping two protosses with 6-1 in total. Game three we have legendary TvZ that was said to endanger Savior in his peak against godly ZvT that ousted Flash out of the last OSL. At some points it does not look like if Luxury is going to claim an OSL title, but rather when he finally does so. Game four has the two gainers of this month's powerrank. Fantasy burst in with making smacking down Nada his habit. Stork appears to have recovered some of his old solidness that allowed him to tear through leagues at least until the fateful semi / final. Now they meet.
How to watch? The games are most likely watchable through:
- Daum player
- Yaoyuan or a
- livestream relayed by some fellow teamliquidian.
For the first two options, refer to The Teamliquid.net Ultimate VOD/Live Stream Guide
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Yaoyuan not working yo ^ ^
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1 July (sorry Bisu, i like you but uhm.. July is autovote :p) 2 Light (seriously ForGG does not belong here from what ive seen). 3 Midas (i kinda see Luxury slumping at the moment? Dunno why) 4 Stork is like the ultimate Test for Fantasy. If Fantasy wins this, this OSL will see Fantasy go faaaar. Vote: Fantasy (his games vs Nada were just awesome :p).
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Stork fighting =0
Also, hoping that Bisu can pull himself together. And ggplay, though that hope is very very slim =( STOP SUCKING GGPLAY
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Hungary11267 Posts
I will try to live report off the Daum stream in case it decides to cooperate.
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Whee! Daum seems to be working for me at the moment. Pretty psyched about that. Here's hoping it continues.
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On September 17 2008 18:20 Elsi wrote: Yaoyuan not working yo ^ ^ "Not today" or "not ever again"? Might remove the reference in that case
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Starting in 2 minutes or so^^
g o g o
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yy is dead again?
No, it lives! Hurray!
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July is seated, Bisu entering his booth now. Both with high percentages in their matchup. Their lifetime record is 2-1 in favor of July, one of those being ODT in 2007 (when Bisu dropped out 0-2 against Zergs) and 1-1 in Bacchus (as mentioned above).
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Zerg Zerg Zerg Terran
All hopes 1 and 3 are predictions.
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The surprise bit in the OP was nice~ Thanks for the brief read.
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Lame maybe, yet I'm still pumped. Go Beesuit!
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Lots of Emofaces, stuff breaking apart, this must be the intro. Applause!
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Bisu[Shield]
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NO SKT1 !!!
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Bisu spawns top position. He makes probes.
July's at bottom; he's microing his larvae furiously.
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July is light blue, bottom left, Bisu is orange top right. Map is Chupung Ryeung (sp?).
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July Light Midas (Only because I don't like Luxury...) Stork
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BISU GGOGO BISU BISU BISUU
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Look at that 800 apm larva micro don't you just want to eat hamburgers and be cool like him?
Damn. Signs I can't read.
It looks like a 9pool 10over.
Bisubuild.
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Bisu placing a pylon below his ramp, July with overpool.
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July blocking ramp with a drone, let the mind games begin!
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July blocking shit with his drone.
probe scout is denied.
some hardcore probe vs drone micro.
July places his hatch; his first five zerglinsg head for toss.
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Drone being sent out to block the ramp. WHAT IS JULY UP TO???
Bisu microing his valiant probe but does not manage to gain sight of the upper part of the ramp, i.e. July's base. Gets an early cannon. 6 lings are out and sent up towards Bisu's base where 2 cannons are almost done.
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Zerg looking to triple-expo
Bisu lets some lings into his main.
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Drone on ramps prevents scouting lings moving out, bisu safe
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Cannon chases the early lings away, July going to take two bases at once but Bisu denies the hatchery placement with sexy micro. 2 lings make it into Bisu's main, but no speed on them, so not much danger.
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2 lings are in bisu's base as he cancelled one cannon for the quicker gate!
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Fastish lair for July.
Bisubuild.
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S-Class scouting here from Bisu, what is July up to? Lurks or Muta?
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Lings cycling the probe line and trying to look VERY dangerous, no probe has suffered from them yet. July has his natural hatchery done and is teching for lair. Did I mention he has two sexy lings in Bisu's base? correction: ONE ling in Bisu's base, as the other succumbs to a zealot.
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Haha, he got a probe before that zling died.
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So, lair is done, scouting probe still alive, so a spire starts morphing at the natural. Bisu has a goon and stargatem finally manages to expell the last ling that takes a probe with him. Bisu spots the spire ??. I think he must have!
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Both players keeping their scout alive for a very long time!
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Corsair is out and harassing the first overlord. July adding 2 more hatches, so he is running on FIVE at the moment - that doesnt look very muta-ish right here. Bisu with archives and another gate, getting recon done with his scouting corsair. Hydra den is also almost done for July, he has not decided on a techpath yet.
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Bisu now pressuring with 3 lot 1 goon, July has maybe 4-5 zerglings and is morphing a sunken - just powering his economy at the moment. Bisu getting +1 attack and adding up to 4 gates. A probe goes to top left for an expansion, but a lonely ling scout is vigilant.
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July morphed 6 mutas in the end and is sending them towards Bisu. Only one cannon in his mainbase that is killed soon! But an archon is nearby to defend - it has troubles getting to the peonline though. Second archon finally chases the mutas away, no harm done.
July switching to masses of hydras.
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mass hydra break coming up soon!
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Two evos going up for fatsozerg, at top left an expansion is done that gets harassed by some lings - but cannons provide safety. Bisu with legspeed now and scouring the middle of the map for zerg offenses. July with a respectable number of hydras.
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I have not seen a HT for Bisu yet, I wonder if he even has storm - he has three archons though, but those do not help *much* against mass hydra. July moving up with 2 ctrl groups of hydra and some leftover mutas. Battle breaks out and hydras run for the moment from mass zeal + archon.
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Hit and run by July, but Bisu's lots just run over him. Still no storm in sight for Bisu as July continues to pump hydras.
finally some HTs.
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late robo from bisu, very late!!
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Mass hydra running in. Great storm takes down 5-6. apart from that it is pure zeal vs. pure hydra. July forced to run again But his production is faster. One single lot denies a hatchery at 6ish. First lurkers morphing, havent seen observers yet for Bisu. Entertaining game as a whole.
More goons from Bisu now. He bypasses the zerg force for the moment. Another engagement, Storms melt the hydras like snow.
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Both are fighting relentlessly over the middle of the map. hit and run hydras against a mass of goons, some zeals and temps. Robo done for Bisu now, so he might get obs out soon. Bisu being forced back towards his base bit by bit. No storms left, so his goons are suffering. This looks like the bust!
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mass hydra/lurk break @ bisu's natural wall!
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July is crazy................... damn.
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July failed to break into Bisu's natural with hydras, but managed to severly damage the wallin. Bisu on the ropes but has an observer out finally.
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Two perfect storms almost wipe the hydras at his nat, but it still looks like July will pull through here. Still quite a few hydras left here. Bisu evacuates probes.
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Bisu just got outmacro'd.
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gosu lurker block on bisu's ramp!
sexy!!!
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Haha, July lurkeregg walls Bisu's ramp.
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July sexily blocks Bisu's ramp with 2 lurker eggs, giving him time to destroy the natural Nexus. Bisu on two base now against July's four. But he might manage to break out yet.
Just too many hydras at the natural, Bisu cannot hold this in the long run unless he gets many more HTs.
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god damn it bisu you were way too careless with your templar
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old fashion ZvP here!
no hive style mass hydra/lurks!
sexy!
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Bisu is raped by hydralurk as expected.
Bisu's PvZ aint what it used to be and July's is still divine.
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Lurkers have reached the gateways, hardly anything left for Bisu, he ggs out.
But good game overall.
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july sticks to his hydra/lurk army and eventually breaks bisu's nat not using that one ht storm cost bisu a lot
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everything was losing those two high templar. fucking a
pvz is such a razer thin matchup
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Bisu's 3rd gas never kicked in, he had no more than 3 HTs at a time... ah now he must go past Flash...
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That was nuts. Bisu couldn't stop the stream of sexyness coming from July. Whenever it looked like Bisu regained control of his base more units would flow in from July.
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Neogen pvz is the product of zerg not knowing how to play like that lololol
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I love you sooooooooooooo much
Seriously this works in school
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July is my favorite player to watch right now by FAR.
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I was surprised about 3 Archons before using HTs - maybe he was rather expecting more muta / ling instead of plain mass hydra.
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Bisu's PvZ, and his play in general, aint what it was. July was beastly, though.
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July max apm was 757 or something, that just lol
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that's like 100 lower than his game with flash haha
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So GGplay "terrible" defiler play or Light cheese?
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On September 17 2008 19:05 Fwmeh wrote: Bisu's PvZ, and his play in general, aint what it was. July was beastly, though. Bisu's PvZ is still superb, but July lifted his level of play to a higher standart. Our Revolutionist always had problems with the Bo1...
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On September 17 2008 19:03 JoxxOr wrote:I love you sooooooooooooo much
+1
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On September 17 2008 19:05 Fwmeh wrote: Bisu's PvZ, and his play in general, aint what it was. July was beastly, though. to be honest Bisu has always made little micro mistakes here and there. He was always just so brilliant and adaptable it didn't make a difference long term. But the field has caught up, unfortunately.
Man I get so bummed out when Bisu loses. I think I'm just going to go to bed now
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however, I do like the extra short skirts on the booth girls
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On September 17 2008 19:10 traced wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 19:05 Fwmeh wrote: Bisu's PvZ, and his play in general, aint what it was. July was beastly, though. . Man I get so bummed out when Bisu loses. I think I'm just going to go to bed now
same here
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damn, i missed the first game… but i'm glad july won. when ggplay entered the stage i was thinking about how i can't wait to slip into this shirt :D
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Bisu's trademark is also not midgame fights for the middle of the map but rather the multitask harassment once he gets to play with shuttles. But right in that phase, July applied lots of pressure.
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So, there's like a zerg in orange at the right hand position and a yellow terran at bottom. Map is Medusa I would think?
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Light with a 2 barrack opening.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
GGplay is scouting in the wrong way
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Regular 12 hatch for GGPlay, 2 raxx for Light. Gas also going up for GGPlay and only then his pool
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Thank you Light.
I was afraid id fall asleep to another standard TvZ opening.
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Light is taking his gas very late, so probably he will go for an early bust with many marines. GGPlay is morphing a surprise lair at his expansion and has his first 4 lings out, chasing a scout SCV.
SCV sees the lair.
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GGPlay going with a 2 hatch lair. Wild openings.
Hydra den. 2 hatch fast lurkers.
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Haha, Light doing a spark terran build. Nice.
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Hydraden coming up for GGplay now, looks like he will tech for lurkers straight away. Ling speed is also finished. Light is polishing up his first strike force.
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8-9 rines with 2 medics are moving out, 2 colonies are ready to morph. Light now picking up speed. By my timing sense, lurker aspect cannot be finished yet.
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GGplay about to be raped by Sparks.
LURKS ARE LATE. SSSSSUNKEN BREAK
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Poorly executed by Light...
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old skool build from light!
3rax no expo!
sweeeet
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Boooo Light fucking fails. All the sunkens are bleeding.
Light its called focus fire!
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Third sunken starts now, three lurker eggs too. Light got delayed a little by some lings that snuck by his force - GOES FOR THE BUST.
Third sunken finishes, lings charge in, and Light is repelled. GGplay has 4 lurkers now.
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wow light fails at sunken break, ggplay manages to keep his marines busy with lings and lurkers pop just in time to force light back.
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GGPlay is expanding once more and pushing Light back with his lurkers. Light with an engbay and factory, he looks to keep up the pressure as much as possible now, but GGPlay looks safe for the moment.
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Light not even bothering to take his natural. Going for total one-base play.
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Is Light still playing 1 base?
EDIT: xD Missed your post tracer
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Light is dancing agains 4 lurkes in mid field. GGplay is adding a second gas and later adds spire.
Light still on 3 rax. Light needs to spread his mnm and kill teh 4 Lurkers in the open.
Cmon Light u wanted to Boxer it up, better show ur micro.
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Spire and Evo are coming for GGplay now. Light is ahead by some supply, but down by economy. Picks up a starport and a lonely marines WALKS magically around some lurkers.
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Light is going to spread...
No he waits for the Lurks to unburrow and snipes one.
Cmon u pussy spread ur rines its just 3 lurks.
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Will Light be caught offguard by the mutas?
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Nice micro by Light takes out one lurker without losses. Scifac coming too. GGplay morphing more lurkers, but still far away from Hive. Light has 2 tanks ready and will get his first vessel soon.
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GGPlay burrows 8-9 lurkers in front of his natural. Rather make that 10+. He is almost on equal supply as Light at the moment. Both dance back and forth. Tanks sieging up in front of the natural but not within range for the sunkens. GGPlay with lurker ling at the moment, carefully sending a sci vessel to his offensive force.
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what exactly is ggplay trying to do right now? he has so many lurkers just sitting there waiting for light's vessel to be finished.
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Now GGplay has about a dozen lurks near his nat.
Light has 3 siege tanks though attacking them in normal mode and forcing them to retreat.
Man this game has such an old school feel to it, its so awesome.
Light gets his vessel.
GGPLAY COMES IN WITH ALL HIS LURKS.... Forces Light back though loosing many lurkers.
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C'mon Light expand before it's too late...
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lovely tank micro from light^^
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i dont know whats more fail... light's attempt at sunken breaking or ggplays lurker positions
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GGplay charges into the contain, manages to kill many marines but overall does poorly on the micro side. Finally he gets one tank down, but two are left. Light is running out of time though, still on one base.
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many lurkers lost there
but the contain is broken
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Light is still pressuring.
Light gets his vessel sniped but he Matrixes a rine for sexy micro.
Eww neverming Light can't micro for shit and looses a few mnm and is forced back by lurkers.
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2 expos to 0....
you work it out!!
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GGPlay charges in again, takes out a significant number of Light's forces. He is getting his Hive and by now he has a solid supply advantage. I do not see how Light can hold this, I think he also lost his vessel there.
GGplay expanding again, 1 base terran vs. 4 base zerg?
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This is damn messy. Both sides take huge casualties.
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Man if this was CASY playing this game would be over a long time ago.
Light's bad mnm control is keeping GGplay in this.
Now GGplay has defiler mound on the way and a 3rd expo starting.
Light still on one base now getting a wraith for some reason.
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Hive is done now, yet another wave of lurker ling takes out the last tank of Light's forward force. Defiler mound is going up. Light is raising his eyebrows, he probably knows that the bus is coming.
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ling backstab
nothing defending the base.
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Oh god GGplau backstabs witha a dozen cracklings and takes out one of Lights 3 raxes.
Light is now pressuring the nat of GG well though. He is sieging the sunkens however he is going to be denied by swarm
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Light makes a desperation attack, but it fails.
Light's base is dead...
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Hmm, had a jump here. Light is sieging GGplay's natural, but his mainbase is slowly being taken out by some rampaging zerglings. He ggs upon failing his last break.
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gg from light , but no gg back
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What the hell Light... I mean, I like GGPlay and would love to see him win and all, but he shouldn't have won that...
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Tanks were wayy too late T_T, guess Light never expected that amount of lurks!
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Light's main is in ruins. He desperately tries to run his mnm into the sunk line byt his miro is bad and they are all killed by good lurker spines.
Light GGs.
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Lol Light sucks so much. Fuck you for cheesing Jangbi out of the OSL
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jangbi's PvZ is no way better than lights TvZ
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Well, at least GGPlay is allowed to win again . Light definitely was the man to beat for him, now he might even advance.
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Light's micro was so horrible that game.
I have better mnm micro than what he showed there. And im not even good enough to compete on iccup.
So depressing for a Boxer fan to watch.
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United States12607 Posts
GGPlay won an OSL game....something is wrong here.
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On September 17 2008 19:32 jwd241224 wrote: GGPlay won an OSL game....something is wrong here. The curse wears off after a while.
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Thanks a bunch, this is the first stream that work for me.(well, I'm very new in starcraft)
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Comeback? He was ahead the whole game. Being 5 supply behind vs terran as zerg is not being behind.
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On September 17 2008 19:32 TheTyranid wrote: Light's micro was so horrible that game.
I have better mnm micro than what he showed there. And im not even good enough to compete on iccup.
So depressing for a Boxer fan to watch. Personally, I thought his poor macro was the real problem...did you see how may times the observer caught him with the lights in his barracks off?
-_____-;;
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Goddamnit Bisu, and Light. Disappointments all around.
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On September 17 2008 19:38 HaXxorIzed wrote: Goddamnit Bisu, and Light. Disappointments all around.
0/2 on liquidbet!
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woot 2-0 so far today. gogo Lux!
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On September 17 2008 19:35 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 19:32 TheTyranid wrote: Light's micro was so horrible that game.
I have better mnm micro than what he showed there. And im not even good enough to compete on iccup.
So depressing for a Boxer fan to watch. Personally, I thought his poor macro was the real problem...did you see how may times the observer caught him with the lights in his barracks off? -_____-;; He played poorly overall. Obviously when GGplay had many lurkers out burrowed in one place Light couldn't have attacked no matter how good his mnm micro could be.
However there was a point in the early-mid game where GG had 4 initial lurkers in the mid field. Light sniped one and there was a point where he had at least 12 riens with medics vs just 3 lurkers. I have no clue why Light did not engage them and make his way toward GGplay's nat. He would have taken those lurkers out for sure. Even with bad micro.
There were also many times where Light backed off his rines from lurks and the back ones kept getting picked off by spines. He should have pulled back faster or engages the lurks spreading his rines and running a decoy. His play was just disappointing.
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Now return of King Midas?
I would think Luxury takes it, but who knows.
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GGPlay sucks hard. Only reasoon why Light lost it is because he sucks even harder. Seriously, both had horrendous micro. GGPlay's lurker use was lame and Light's M&M's looked suicidal. I don't know what was lamer : the 2-3 rax sunken break that didn't even take a single sunken out or the 10+ lurkers waiting for more tanks and vessels to come when a push would have ended the game. I really hope next 2 games are better. Not that it will be that hard to achieve.
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I believe luxurys last ZvT on this map went badly for him. I think it was this map, this one and byzatine confuse me ... damn tilesets.
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On September 17 2008 19:44 Aesop wrote: Now return of King Midas?
I would think Luxury takes it, but who knows. Midas has a very very strong TvZ. The best in this OSL after Forgg and tied with Hwasin's imo.
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Cross positions on RotK.
Midas top right, Lux bottom left. Overlord scouting wrong towards top left.
Luxury 9 pools. Midas standard rax after supply. Lux does the extractor trick.
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Lux sends a drone early to scout. By process of elimination he now knows Midas is at top right.
The lings arrive to late, Midas has 2 scv in fron of 4 rines on the ramp.
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Luxury has a pretty low drone count in his main. Only 6 drones on minerals. I wonder if he is going to pull them from gas after 100. He goes for a fast lair which started spawning. at 4:25.
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GGplay strategy from last game.
2 hatch lurker.
It's just too bad because Midas is so much better than Light.
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Midas is going to sunken break before Luxury spawns his lurks.
Aah Midas backs off and waits for more mnm reinforcements. However by the time they come Luxury has already made 4 lurkers.
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Luxury fended off the first break with his freshly hatched lurkers, but Midas is too smart to lose many of his marines. Both circling around each other like growling dogs, looking for an opening.
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Luxury is taking a third while Midas is preparing his science facility. Luxury snuck around Midas and attemps to press into his natural. But Midas is und guard and in position, microing his marines frantically to avoid the lurkers.
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lux got a solid lurker count and tries to attack!
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Many lurkerling tearing into Midas' natural, where two bunkers try to hold it. Tank survives and Luxury is in TROUBLE with this failed bust.
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Luxury running about 20 lings close to Midas's nat so the mnm force backs off from the zerg nat.
Lux is preparing an attack on the nat as he brings in the lurkers.
Wow lux with great lurk positioning. He cuts off the main army from teh nat and walks in a lot of lurks.
AND MIDAS FUCKING RAPES THE ATTACK. NOTHING LEFT ALIVE.
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failed lurk+ling break @ Midas' nat!
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Queen's nest coming now, so Hive tech is imminent. Luxury gets his third base running while Midas has his first vessel and a growing ball of death.
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It looked like Midas was done for, but those two bunkers were friggin immortal
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midas repells the attack and moves out with 3 tanks, 1 vessel and lots of mnm
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Midas defended Lux's poorly executed allin, game is over.
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Midas sending out his blob across the map. Luxury has 5 lurkers at the nat again, looking for a counter. Midas moves in into Luxury's nat who recalls his attack force in order to flank the terran push. Tanks sieging up to hit the sunkens. Luxury must go in soon!
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Midas pushing out with a lot of mnm. About 30. Along with onve vessel and 3 tanks.
Standard midgame push. Luxury is trying to set up a flank on the push with lurkerlings from the back.
LUX FLANKS AND..... GETS RAPED BY MIDAS.
Lux types out.
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Luxury storms in from two sides, fails miserably. Midas takes it!
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D MATRIX. Ahhhh that was pimp
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Was downhill all the way after he failed to break midas' wall!
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Sweet, 2/3. If only Light didn't try to be a hero...
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Bunkers > lurkers.
Every zerg should know that Luxury!
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What's with this 1-1-trend? Everyone afraid of going 2-0?
Well, last game is finally two players 1-0, so one is BOUND to retain a clean sheet.
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haha i love how the commentators say that midas has maphack
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On September 17 2008 20:04 DownMaxX wrote: Sweet, 2/3. If only Light didn't try to be a hero... pun alarm!!
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haha...yay for Midas!!
Is anyone else disappointed with Lux's play this game?
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It really looked like an answer to last game : "Look how we can use your strats and actually make an enjoyable game by actually playing well." I wish it had been longer though. GJ Midas.
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Lux... Now I have to root for Stork.
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lux tries to clutch midas army but his number of forces is too low. lux ggs when all his troops are dead and midas sits in front of his nat. midas was playing great!
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On September 17 2008 20:04 DownMaxX wrote: Sweet, 2/3. If only Light didn't try to be a hero... Progaming needs heroes. Especially at such stale times. Light, however, is not one of them.
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2/3 damn luxury losing :D
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WOW. That supply positioning in that replay...
OMGGGGGggggggggg
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On September 17 2008 20:05 PH wrote: haha...yay for Midas!!
Is anyone else disappointed with Lux's play this game?
nah, lux played solid while midas was awesome.
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Oh on top of going against bunker with lurkers Luxury made a micro mistake and burrowed his lurks about 2 seconds late. A good third of them had already died when they started releasing spines.
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On September 17 2008 20:12 TheTyranid wrote: Oh on top of going against bunker with lurkers Luxury made a micro mistake and burrowed his lurks about 2 seconds late. A good third of them had already died when they started releasing spines. Yes, and his lings were not on attack move. Also he should have focus on one bunker. In the playback you saw that both bunkers were half down.
Luxury is now down 0-2, isnt he?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Luxury is 1-1, as is midas
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On September 17 2008 20:14 willKeks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:12 TheTyranid wrote: Oh on top of going against bunker with lurkers Luxury made a micro mistake and burrowed his lurks about 2 seconds late. A good third of them had already died when they started releasing spines. Yes, and his lings were not on attack move. Also he should have focus on one bunker. In the playback you saw that both bunkers where half down. Luxury is now down 0-2, isnt he?  Luxury is 1-1, as all players that have played so far.
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Go stork! Show your good side.
looks like fantasy has some technical issues.
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No he is 1-1. Beat TheZerg
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Stork 8-2 in his last 10 PvT. Still a monster like always.
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fantasy changing his keyboard. What's going on?
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I think fantasy destroyed his monitor by having a higher APM than his monitor refresh rate...
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Stork is in good form 
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On September 17 2008 20:25 Elsi wrote: Stork is Mr Consistent! The one person in progaming that manages to be consistently consistent.
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Looks like Stork and Fantasy passing on jokes to each other as both players are laughing while typing ^^
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Headphones are on, that games GAME on!!
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Fantasy looks pretty much like Boxer with his glasses
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I like those girls in the booth, they have absolutly no use, except boobs background when camera are on the players faces.
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Ugh, I have to leave for classes in about 20 minutes.. hopefully Stork will wrap this up quick.
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Fantasy FTW! I have been following him since the MSL qualifiers from last season, as he was the newcomer who had impressed me most. He hasn't disappointed since. That guy has the potential to go pretty far.
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Fantasy is failing so hard right now
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stork soo clever, nice pylon usage!
fantasy fears stork? won't play straight up?
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fantasy fail, he knows he cant beat stork str8 up.
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Haha, it's over. Boo Fantasy.
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AHAHAH stork with proxy gates. Fantasy gg's.
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GJ Stork =D
3/4 today ^^ ... Luxury, i will only pardon you if midas wins this OSL
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stork you lucky sucker found both rax at same time :D
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Nice try Fantasy but Stork defended that perfectly.
Stork attacking 6 rines with 4 zeals near the proxy raxes killing them all.
Fantasy GGs.
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Stork survives thus far against the cheese opening of fantasy's, he has a bunch of zeals out and is chasing the rines around - fantasy trying to counter with micro, but zeals are just too beefy and Stork tears them down.
fantasy ggs.
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stork is the first to go 2-0!
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maybe he was expecting stork to scout late like he usually does.
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On September 17 2008 20:32 Elsi wrote: fantasy fears stork? won't play straight up?
On September 17 2008 20:33 Zidane wrote: he knows he cant beat stork str8 up.
Every time people say stupid shit like this. It's amazing.
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2/4 T_T
On September 17 2008 20:34 Mhugues wrote:
Luxury, i will only pardon you if midas wins this OSL
And GGPlay got lucky.
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Stork is such a solid all-around player. GG.
3/4
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Plasma is very open to cheese in TvsP, that s why people use it
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storky's mechanics superb! beautifully executed from storky, never panicked.
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Kinda disappointed with the games today. I expected a lot better given the players involved. July vs Bisu was the closest and still July was never threatened. Bad news to complete the upset : Stork is now qualified for the next round. Today sucks.
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Well, that was rather short, wasn't it?
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On September 17 2008 20:35 economist_ wrote: Plasma is very open to cheese in TvsP, that s why people use it true, but he let stork see his base. stork knew exactly what was coming.
only way he wins is if stork fast expands or scouts late
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On September 17 2008 20:35 Pyrthas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:32 Elsi wrote: fantasy fears stork? won't play straight up? Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:33 Zidane wrote: he knows he cant beat stork str8 up. Every time people say stupid shit like this. It's amazing.
Stupid shit? Excuse me? I'm an observer, I'm entitled to give an opinion! I just felt Fantasy feared Stork, hence the "cheese"
Makes perfectly sense to me!
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Stork was quite wary of proxy cheese, and it paid of this time. Smart scouting/pylon placement, and pulling probes when needed. Still, I would have liked a longer game, with the same outcome.
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On September 17 2008 20:37 Uraeus wrote: Kinda disappointed with the games today. I expected a lot better given the players involved. July vs Bisu was the closest and still July was never threatened. Bad news to complete the upset : Stork is now qualified for the next round. Today sucks.
Stork qualifying is an upset? LOL, do you even know who Stork is?
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Without an OSL/MSL curse, Stork will forever be.. consistent. The career ending moment for Stork is when he actually wins something big.
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storks game was really impressive!
the way he used his zealots and probes to defend, I'm sure he even knew what was going on after his first scouting!
gg!!!!
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On September 17 2008 20:39 Elsi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:35 Pyrthas wrote:On September 17 2008 20:32 Elsi wrote: fantasy fears stork? won't play straight up? On September 17 2008 20:33 Zidane wrote: he knows he cant beat stork str8 up. Every time people say stupid shit like this. It's amazing. Stupid shit? Excuse me? I'm an observer, I'm entitled to give an opinion! I just felt Fantasy feared Stork, hence the "cheese" Makes perfectly sense to me!
I disagree that cheesing is a sign that the player is fearful of his opponent. Cheesing is only part of the strategy, if the player decides that his foe is not prepared to counter a cheese build, then why not cheese on him? Starcraft is not only about long macro game, whether its cheesing, rush build, macro game, a win is a win.
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oh my lil Bisu  c'mon T___T
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pfft july only can win with zergs easy matchup.
puts into perspective how lucky the last OSL was.
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On September 17 2008 20:39 Fwmeh wrote: Stork was quite wary of proxy cheese, and it paid of this time. Smart scouting/pylon placement, and pulling probes when needed. Still, I would have liked a longer game, with the same outcome.
Were the first rax landing place within the pylon range that Stork could see it? I dont think so but stork realized the cheese by scouting fantasy's base. And he added right away second gate at that time
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Nice day.
July wins, yay!... I just don't know if i want Bisu or Much dropping out... Much will have a hard time with July but is more than able to beat Flash and Flash should be able to punish Bisu... This really smells like a Tiebreaker here...
ForGG shows that he's able to win if his openend is trying hard to allow it... ok.
Luxury out... I don't like him (and he's Z, that means much :p) and Midas was georgus.
Stork wins. Good... Fantasy lose. Bad... 
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On September 17 2008 20:50 perx80 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:39 Elsi wrote:On September 17 2008 20:35 Pyrthas wrote:On September 17 2008 20:32 Elsi wrote: fantasy fears stork? won't play straight up? On September 17 2008 20:33 Zidane wrote: he knows he cant beat stork str8 up. Every time people say stupid shit like this. It's amazing. Stupid shit? Excuse me? I'm an observer, I'm entitled to give an opinion! I just felt Fantasy feared Stork, hence the "cheese" Makes perfectly sense to me! I don't agree that cheesing is a sign that the player is fearful of the opponent. Cheesing is only part of the strategy, if the player decides that his foe is not prepared to counter a cheese build, then why not cheese on him? Starcraft is not only about long macro game, whether its cheesing, rush build, macro game, a win is a win.
I think tasteless said something to effect "this is strategy he has deemed best to defeat his opponent." And that is what the game is about, to win. If you think you can win easier with a rush than with "standard play," you would be a fool not to rush.
When Jaedong cheesed Best the two first games in WCG Korea, I certainly didn't interpret that as Jaedong fearing Best, rather that he thought he wouldn't even have to play him straight up. And in the third game, he proved beyond doubt that he had nothing to fear.
In this case however, I kinda doubt that Fantasy would liked his chances against Stork in a macro game.
On September 17 2008 21:00 economist_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:39 Fwmeh wrote: Stork was quite wary of proxy cheese, and it paid of this time. Smart scouting/pylon placement, and pulling probes when needed. Still, I would have liked a longer game, with the same outcome. Were the first rax landing place within the pylon range that Stork could see it? I dont think so but stork realized the cheese by scouting fantasy's base. And he added right away second gate at that time It was certainly in range, but since the pylon hadn't finished building yet, it couldn't see it. But it was still a good placement, if he hadn't found the barracks with his probe on the first pass, it could have made a difference.
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On September 17 2008 20:34 AltaiR_ wrote: stork you lucky sucker found both rax at same time :D It wasn't luck. That was the obvious place for the rax. GJ Stork!
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On September 17 2008 20:40 dinmsab wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:37 Uraeus wrote: Kinda disappointed with the games today. I expected a lot better given the players involved. July vs Bisu was the closest and still July was never threatened. Bad news to complete the upset : Stork is now qualified for the next round. Today sucks. Stork qualifying is an upset? LOL, do you even know who Stork is? First, read again : I didn't say Stork qualifying was an upset, I said it was bad news. And yes, I know who Stork is and him qualifying is bad news. Stork is consistency personified (I picked him in my fantasy MSL team for that reason). But his last he displayed cute, creative play was long, long ago. I don't mean he is bad, because he isn't. It is just that his games are not inspiring, and I do not like that. He keeps winning until the finals. Props to him. But I prefer players like Kal or Much, who lose earlier but make daring BOs (one base carrier vs Bisu was awesome) and enjoyable games. I just think Stork is boring. Obviously, as a player, one may prefer to win in an ugly fashion rather than lose with style. As a spectator, I just want a great show. Only my opinion though.
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On September 17 2008 23:37 Uraeus wrote: As a spectator, I just want a great show.
If showmanship prevails over desire to win, the tournament suffers. StarCraft is only fun to watch because players do whatever they need to do to win. There is no magic without players like Stork.
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On September 17 2008 23:37 Uraeus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2008 20:40 dinmsab wrote:On September 17 2008 20:37 Uraeus wrote: Kinda disappointed with the games today. I expected a lot better given the players involved. July vs Bisu was the closest and still July was never threatened. Bad news to complete the upset : Stork is now qualified for the next round. Today sucks. Stork qualifying is an upset? LOL, do you even know who Stork is? First, read again : I didn't say Stork qualifying was an upset, I said it was bad news. And yes, I know who Stork is and him qualifying is bad news. Stork is consistency personified (I picked him in my fantasy MSL team for that reason). But his last he displayed cute, creative play was long, long ago. I don't mean he is bad, because he isn't. It is just that his games are not inspiring, and I do not like that. He keeps winning until the finals. Props to him. But I prefer players like Kal or Much, who lose earlier but make daring BOs (one base carrier vs Bisu was awesome) and enjoyable games. I just think Stork is boring. Obviously, as a player, one may prefer to win in an ugly fashion rather than lose with style. As a spectator, I just want a great show. Only my opinion though. Stork isn't qualified quite yet... if Sea defeats BackHo and Stork, and Fantasy wins over BackHo, then Sea, Stork and Fantasy will have a tiebreaker round to determine which of the two will advance. So there is still hope for you of Stork not advancing, though the chances of that happening are low.
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Light and Luxury, you disappoint me. 
On September 18 2008 01:01 semioldguy wrote: Stork isn't qualified quite yet... if Sea defeats BackHo and Stork, and Fantasy wins over BackHo, then Sea, Stork and Fantasy will have a tiebreaker round to determine which of the two will advance. So there is still hope for you of Stork not advancing, though the chances of that happening are low.
Stork's gonna advance.
On September 17 2008 19:03 Plexa wrote: Neogen pvz is the product of zerg not knowing how to play like that lololol
Neogen PvZ is mass corsair though, Bisu didn't do that. Ground's not gonna work on someone like July who has great army control, no matter how well you storm.
Stick to corsairs Bisu. Nobody can PvZ July with ground.
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Ahh yes Bisu losing to yet another Zerg, all is right in the world.
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bisu made 3 archons, which was weird. he should make max 2. and then he had a couple of bad storms. he made mass cannon at his third, AND fought for the mid, when he didnt need to do both. so he could have had more storms, done better storms, and been in a better position (don't fight for mid). then once his 3 base econ gets rolling with many gates, fight for mid.
massing corsair is very risky now because zerg has gotten good at efficiently fending off the harrass while macroing up. spending money on ground units (speed zeals + something else) absolutely forces zerg to stop heavy investment in econ and it forces midgame play, where zerg is weak (they like their hive).
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every match was not fun to watch at all. bleh...
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1/4, only Stork came through. Ouch! D:
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I fucking hate stork. Fun games this week though, some oldschool play.
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midas played a beautiful game.
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On September 18 2008 02:38 NonY[rC] wrote: bisu made 3 archons, which was weird. he should make max 2. and then he had a couple of bad storms. he made mass cannon at his third, AND fought for the mid, when he didnt need to do both. so he could have had more storms, done better storms, and been in a better position (don't fight for mid). then once his 3 base econ gets rolling with many gates, fight for mid.
massing corsair is very risky now because zerg has gotten good at efficiently fending off the harrass while macroing up. spending money on ground units (speed zeals + something else) absolutely forces zerg to stop heavy investment in econ and it forces midgame play, where zerg is weak (they like their hive).
JUMPING HIGH FIVE NONY!
And King Midas will grab this title.
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I liked todays game lots of interesting build orders and a very intense match between bisu and july. Finally starting to see something different than 3 hatch muta.
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On September 18 2008 04:42 Descent wrote: 1/4, only Stork came through. Ouch! D:
3/4, fantasy failed me
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Stork is macro oriented player, like Best though Best is even more. But the diff between Stork and Best is that Best is more vulnerable to cheese while stork isnt (with luck ^^) Both are boring to watch, but what the hell, victory has its beauty no matter how you got it 
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thanks for crediting my thread midas winning is awsome, gotta watch that when i can
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