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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 27 2008 07:57 GMT
#561
On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote:
Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.


His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.

ya, at least he should of left a probe outside chalrenge's base
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 27 2008 07:57 GMT
#562
On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote:
Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.


His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.

Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 27 2008 07:58 GMT
#563
On July 27 2008 16:57 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:
On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote:
Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.


His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.

ya, at least he should of left a probe outside chalrenge's base

If you didn't notice though, Chalrenge was checking every route possible with his goons to kill scouting.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
July 27 2008 07:58 GMT
#564
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#1 Terran hater
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
July 27 2008 07:58 GMT
#565
On July 27 2008 16:57 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:
On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote:
Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.


His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.

Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming.

wasn't chalrenge sending units out one at a time kind of looking around? i saw a lot of single units on the minimap
eyeballball3
Profile Joined January 2008
United States93 Posts
July 27 2008 07:59 GMT
#566
if he invested in cannons
he shoulda went reaver before obs
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 27 2008 07:59 GMT
#567
idk I would NOT place my money on T1 2v2's
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 07:59:57
July 27 2008 07:59 GMT
#568
SK1 is in deep shit right now.

too late haji i already did, O WAIT. AGAINST THEM :D
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
July 27 2008 07:59 GMT
#569
This is looking grim for SKT1
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 27 2008 07:59 GMT
#570
On July 27 2008 16:58 traced wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 16:57 OneOther wrote:
On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:
On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote:
Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.


His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.

Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming.

wasn't chalrenge sending units out one at a time kind of looking around? i saw a lot of single units on the minimap

yeah, he did. I guess I meant right outside of his own base, Idk. Wouldn't have made much of a difference
luckygreens
Profile Joined April 2008
United States98 Posts
July 27 2008 08:00 GMT
#571
beesuit shouldnt have sent in his initial 4 zeals/goons. i dont know if it wouldve saved him, but he definetly coulda had more units than he chose to fight with
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
July 27 2008 08:00 GMT
#572
Bisu was not supposed to lose his set.

Chalrenge has every scouting route blocked though.

Bisu knew himself too well, being paranoid with obs and all. he already had so many cannons though.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 08:01:29
July 27 2008 08:00 GMT
#573
On July 27 2008 16:58 traced wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 16:57 OneOther wrote:
On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:
On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote:
Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.


His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.

Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming.

wasn't chalrenge sending units out one at a time kind of looking around? i saw a lot of single units on the minimap


Yeah he was. the only thing that i think bisu could do was run a probe around the main route of chalrenge... but who would know to do that. But wait, if they were all covered than idk but thats why i dont progame.
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
July 27 2008 08:01 GMT
#574
Chalrenge has a pretty good build prepared for a 1set game.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 27 2008 08:03 GMT
#575
ZEUS/YELLOW 7 GAME WINSTREAK

no way SKT is pulling this out
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 08:07:54
July 27 2008 08:05 GMT
#576
a couple interesting tidbits about that game (for more insight on what went on behind the scenes):

-in a pregame interview 2 days before, chalrenge mentioned that he had prepared a special strategy/build to beat bisu
-before starting the game, the commentators mentioned that chalrenge was taking a long time to join, presumably to further the mind game advantage he already had. the longer he takes to join, the more that goes through bisu's head.
-bisu's play was very conservative because of the two above statements. getting an early forge, making many many cannons rather than gateways, and furthermore making robo with obs tech instead of more gates. making cannons isn't bad. getting obs isn't bad. both together? very very bad.

basically everything combined equals a completely owned bisu, both in and out of the game. to quote the words of the MBC commentator: "lee seung hoon already won this game 2 days ago"
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Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 08:06:24
July 27 2008 08:05 GMT
#577
Did the middle commentator get a haircut?

Thank you so much for the insights into that last game!
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 27 2008 08:06 GMT
#578
fucking fuck chalrenge 4gate fucker u suck at protoss still fuck
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
July 27 2008 08:07 GMT
#579
On July 27 2008 17:05 LosingID8 wrote:
a couple interesting tidbits about that game (for more insight on what went on behind the scenes):

-in a pregame interview 2 days before, chalrenge mentioned that he had prepared a special strategy/build to beat bisu
-before starting the game, the commentators mentioned that chalrenge was taking a long time to join, presumably to further the mind game advantage he already had. the longer he takes to join, the more that goes through bisu's head.
-bisu's play was very conservative because of the two above statements. getting an early forge, making many many cannons rather than gateways, and furthermore making robo with obs tech instead of more gates. making cannons isn't bad. getting obs isn't bad. both together? very very bad.

basically everything combined equals a completely owned bisu, both in and out of the game.


why aren't you keeping me company on irc
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traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
July 27 2008 08:07 GMT
#580
whoa is midas crying
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