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[MSL Finals] Jaedong vs fOrGG - Page 7

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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 25 2008 15:02 GMT
#121
On July 25 2008 23:23 Tinithor wrote:
I hate to tell you folks, but JD did NOT look that good against Hwasin and furthermore his opponents have been choking hardcore (come on.. JD vs Lomo Game 3? Give me a break...).

JD certainly has a good shot but he's not THAT much better than ForGG and theres no reason to think this will be a 3-0 shutout noob stomp like some of you less informed fanboys seem to think. Go watch some starcraft games besides the ones where your favorite players win.


You said Lucifer would beat Jaedong. stfu
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 15:12:35
July 25 2008 15:12 GMT
#122
I'm hoping for 3-2 epicness for Jaedong so we have lots to watch and cheer about when at Chill's
twitter: @terrancem
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 25 2008 15:25 GMT
#123
Hey, i said that i would laugh if Lucifer did beat JD, as he did not, you are laughing and not me, however this does not discredit my post.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
July 25 2008 16:18 GMT
#124
JaeDong winning, 3-0, 3-1, 3-2, does not matter to me. To me, there is no difference between a sweep of 3-0 or a 3-2, as both of them equate to JaeDong winning his second MSL. However, I think ForGG could be another Mind, and none of the maps favor Zerg statistically.

Oh wait, I went throught the same thoughts last MSL finals. Nevermind, ForGG has no chance.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 25 2008 16:47 GMT
#125
gonna be mad if forgg doesnt go mech on colloseum
i could imagine that producing such epic games.

actually im kinda mad whenever any terran doesnt go mech on a map with easy economy. so much cooler than bio.
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Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 25 2008 16:56 GMT
#126
On July 26 2008 01:47 IdrA wrote:
gonna be mad if forgg doesnt go mech on colloseum
i could imagine that producing such epic games.

actually im kinda mad whenever any terran doesnt go mech on a map with easy economy. so much cooler than bio.


It's hard to believe Terrans don't go mech more often.

Maybe you have to be the one to make it more mainstream once you hit PL IdrA.
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
July 25 2008 17:09 GMT
#127
On July 25 2008 21:17 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i hope forgg wins with straight up play
The thing i noticed about forgg besides his oovlike macro is that his main army or hanbang rarely dies. He always retreats if he thinks hes gonna lose and makes his army bigger. Forgg vs ggplay on python and kal vs forgg on athena is what im talking about and hes pretty creative.


Yes i like Forgg just because this, his army always gets bigger and bigger and you can not just beat it when it gets really HUGE, he makes more units than every single person atm.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
July 25 2008 17:20 GMT
#128
3-1 Jaedong
fromis_9 enjoyer
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2922 Posts
July 25 2008 17:40 GMT
#129
3-2 Jaedong
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
July 25 2008 17:51 GMT
#130
in flash vs forgg, i had a unsettling feeling that forgg might upset flash
for some reason i hav the same feeling now
i hope jaedong will win tho
ftw
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 25 2008 17:55 GMT
#131
Tinithor has weighed in against Jaedong once again.

I can rest easy now, knowing Jaedong will win
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 18:45:17
July 25 2008 18:19 GMT
#132
On July 25 2008 21:01 NrG.ZaM wrote:
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funny, but i dont get the chars and why the Naruto head bands.
but anyway, go Jaedong.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 19:10:48
July 25 2008 18:58 GMT
#133
Jaedong's weakness is special strats and cheeze builds. A majority of the games he lost were due to them; in fact most of them.

Jaedong has lost 11 games since his win over Kal in the MSL final. His ELO peak was around that time as well so he was on top of his game. Of those 11 games 6 were due to either special strat or a very imba map. Losses vs Ruby, Casy, Backho, and Bisu were due to a cheeze/special strat. (Similarly he before lost once against Best and 5 times to Flash including GSI, 2 of them against metal). So out of the past 11 games 4 were due to strat, 2 were due to imba map Tiamat, and 5 (less than half) were straight up losses against Mind, Hwasin, and Oversky.

ForGG must cheese or do a metal build like Idra suggested to win. He has strong straight up play but his chances are much higher if he takes the special strat route. I remember how he pulled out a sunken bust against Kwanro in PL finals. That game was as important as any game in this upcoming final so I believe he has the mental capability of successfully pulling off a cheese. If he goes metal on Colesseum, does the 4 rax quick grade on Tiamat (like Hwasin) and tries a sunk bust in another game, he has a good chance of winning. (Btw Jaedong lost to a sunk break against Frozean before). If he playes straight up, he will not beat Jaedong. Jaedong's play is just untouchable right now. Lomo did the right thing by Buk rushing and sunk busting Jaedong in the GSL. ForGG must follow suit.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
July 25 2008 19:03 GMT
#134
On June 26 2008 23:42 Tinithor wrote:
Well paint me red and call me stupid.... Damn


You're stupid.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 25 2008 19:20 GMT
#135
On July 26 2008 03:58 TheTyranid wrote:
Jaedong's weakness is special strats and cheeze builds. A majority of the games he lost were due to them; in fact most of them.

Jaedong has lost 11 games since his win over Kal in the MSL final. His ELO peak was around that time as well so he was on top of his game. Of those 11 games 6 were due to either special strat or a very imba map. Losses vs Ruby, Casy, Backho, and Bisu were due to a cheeze/special strat. (Similarly he before lost once against Best and 5 times to Flash including GSI, 2 of them against metal). So out of the past 11 games 4 were due to strat, 2 were due to imba map Tiamat, and 5 (less than half) were straight up losses against Mind, Hwasin, and Oversky.

ForGG must cheese or do a metal build like Idra suggested to win. He has strong straight up play but his chances are much higher if he takes the special strat route. I remember how he pulled out a sunken bust against Kwanro in PL finals. That game was as important as any game in this upcoming final so I believe he has the mental capability of successfully pulling off a cheese. If he goes metal on Colesseum, does the 4 rax quick grade on Tiamat (like Hwasin) and tries a sunk bust in another game, he has a good chance of winning. (Btw Jaedong lost to a sunk break against Frozean before). If he playes straight up, he will not beat Jaedong. Jaedong's play is just untouchable right now. Lomo did the right thing by Buk rushing and sunk busting Jaedong in the GSL. ForGG must follow suit.


Hopefully Jaedong will be pretty well-prepared for the possibility that Forgg is going to try these strategies. Tiamat to me, looks almost unwinnable against a well-prepared and executed terran strat.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
July 25 2008 19:45 GMT
#136
3x0 easy
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 25 2008 20:15 GMT
#137
I hate both of them..damnit.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
July 25 2008 20:48 GMT
#138
On July 26 2008 04:45 Kacas wrote:
3x0 easy


yea I agree
StimD
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Norway738 Posts
July 25 2008 20:49 GMT
#139
will there be a stream to watch this on? stupid question maybe.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
July 25 2008 21:09 GMT
#140
Lee, dont disappoint me !
if JaeDong doesnt win this... forGG will be at last a force to recon with ;>
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