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On July 25 2008 23:23 Tinithor wrote:
I hate to tell you folks, but JD did NOT look that good against Hwasin and furthermore his opponents have been choking hardcore (come on.. JD vs Lomo Game 3? Give me a break...).
JD certainly has a good shot but he's not THAT much better than ForGG and theres no reason to think this will be a 3-0 shutout noob stomp like some of you less informed fanboys seem to think. Go watch some starcraft games besides the ones where your favorite players win.
You said Lucifer would beat Jaedong. stfu
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I'm hoping for 3-2 epicness for Jaedong so we have lots to watch and cheer about when at Chill's
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Hey, i said that i would laugh if Lucifer did beat JD, as he did not, you are laughing and not me, however this does not discredit my post.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
JaeDong winning, 3-0, 3-1, 3-2, does not matter to me. To me, there is no difference between a sweep of 3-0 or a 3-2, as both of them equate to JaeDong winning his second MSL. However, I think ForGG could be another Mind, and none of the maps favor Zerg statistically.
Oh wait, I went throught the same thoughts last MSL finals. Nevermind, ForGG has no chance.
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gonna be mad if forgg doesnt go mech on colloseum
i could imagine that producing such epic games.
actually im kinda mad whenever any terran doesnt go mech on a map with easy economy. so much cooler than bio.
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On July 26 2008 01:47 IdrA wrote:
gonna be mad if forgg doesnt go mech on colloseum
i could imagine that producing such epic games.
actually im kinda mad whenever any terran doesnt go mech on a map with easy economy. so much cooler than bio.
It's hard to believe Terrans don't go mech more often.
Maybe you have to be the one to make it more mainstream once you hit PL IdrA.
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On July 25 2008 21:17 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
i hope forgg wins with straight up play
The thing i noticed about forgg besides his oovlike macro is that his main army or hanbang rarely dies. He always retreats if he thinks hes gonna lose and makes his army bigger. Forgg vs ggplay on python and kal vs forgg on athena is what im talking about and hes pretty creative.
Yes i like Forgg just because this, his army always gets bigger and bigger and you can not just beat it when it gets really HUGE, he makes more units than every single person atm. 
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in flash vs forgg, i had a unsettling feeling that forgg might upset flash
for some reason i hav the same feeling now
i hope jaedong will win tho
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Tinithor has weighed in against Jaedong once again.
I can rest easy now, knowing Jaedong will win
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funny, but i dont get the chars and why the Naruto head bands.
but anyway, go Jaedong.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Jaedong's weakness is special strats and cheeze builds. A majority of the games he lost were due to them; in fact most of them.
Jaedong has lost 11 games since his win over Kal in the MSL final. His ELO peak was around that time as well so he was on top of his game. Of those 11 games 6 were due to either special strat or a very imba map. Losses vs Ruby, Casy, Backho, and Bisu were due to a cheeze/special strat. (Similarly he before lost once against Best and 5 times to Flash including GSI, 2 of them against metal). So out of the past 11 games 4 were due to strat, 2 were due to imba map Tiamat, and 5 (less than half) were straight up losses against Mind, Hwasin, and Oversky.
ForGG must cheese or do a metal build like Idra suggested to win. He has strong straight up play but his chances are much higher if he takes the special strat route. I remember how he pulled out a sunken bust against Kwanro in PL finals. That game was as important as any game in this upcoming final so I believe he has the mental capability of successfully pulling off a cheese. If he goes metal on Colesseum, does the 4 rax quick grade on Tiamat (like Hwasin) and tries a sunk bust in another game, he has a good chance of winning. (Btw Jaedong lost to a sunk break against Frozean before). If he playes straight up, he will not beat Jaedong. Jaedong's play is just untouchable right now. Lomo did the right thing by Buk rushing and sunk busting Jaedong in the GSL. ForGG must follow suit.
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On June 26 2008 23:42 Tinithor wrote:
Well paint me red and call me stupid.... Damn
You're stupid.
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On July 26 2008 03:58 TheTyranid wrote:
Jaedong's weakness is special strats and cheeze builds. A majority of the games he lost were due to them; in fact most of them.
Jaedong has lost 11 games since his win over Kal in the MSL final. His ELO peak was around that time as well so he was on top of his game. Of those 11 games 6 were due to either special strat or a very imba map. Losses vs Ruby, Casy, Backho, and Bisu were due to a cheeze/special strat. (Similarly he before lost once against Best and 5 times to Flash including GSI, 2 of them against metal). So out of the past 11 games 4 were due to strat, 2 were due to imba map Tiamat, and 5 (less than half) were straight up losses against Mind, Hwasin, and Oversky.
ForGG must cheese or do a metal build like Idra suggested to win. He has strong straight up play but his chances are much higher if he takes the special strat route. I remember how he pulled out a sunken bust against Kwanro in PL finals. That game was as important as any game in this upcoming final so I believe he has the mental capability of successfully pulling off a cheese. If he goes metal on Colesseum, does the 4 rax quick grade on Tiamat (like Hwasin) and tries a sunk bust in another game, he has a good chance of winning. (Btw Jaedong lost to a sunk break against Frozean before). If he playes straight up, he will not beat Jaedong. Jaedong's play is just untouchable right now. Lomo did the right thing by Buk rushing and sunk busting Jaedong in the GSL. ForGG must follow suit.
Hopefully Jaedong will be pretty well-prepared for the possibility that Forgg is going to try these strategies. Tiamat to me, looks almost unwinnable against a well-prepared and executed terran strat. 
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United States10774 Posts
I hate both of them..damnit.
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On July 26 2008 04:45 Kacas wrote:
3x0 easy
yea I agree
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will there be a stream to watch this on? stupid question maybe.
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Lee, dont disappoint me !
if JaeDong doesnt win this... forGG will be at last a force to recon with ;>
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