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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
February 16 2008 18:41 GMT
#881
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 18:43:36
February 16 2008 18:42 GMT
#882
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2008 18:42 GMT
#883
i take pleasure in seeing karma make things right, whats wrong with laughing at a cocky kid whos crying, nothing
why so 진지해?
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 18:55:32
February 16 2008 18:43 GMT
#884
On February 17 2008 03:41 dronebabo wrote:
wow why are you so upset that people like seeing hated players cry LOL

Hm well.
The noble reason is that laughing at people cry is never a good thing, in my opinion. FirebatHero isn't also hated by everyone.

There are other reasons too, but those aren't very interesting or idealistic.

Don't worry, I'm not particularly upset, or that serious about this.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
February 16 2008 18:44 GMT
#885
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d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 18:53:45
February 16 2008 18:46 GMT
#886
On February 17 2008 03:42 Rekrul wrote:
i take pleasure in seeing karma make things right, whats wrong with laughing at a cocky kid whos crying, nothing


here we go with karma again... and cocky. Honestly, I don't think he is any more disrespectful or cocky than the other progamers. Besides the ceremonies against Savior, what has he done to warrant that? Since you live in Korea, perhaps you know more than I do and would like to explain? But my main point isn't to defend Firebathero...

Also in the spirit of empathy, laughing at anyone crying is pretty horrible, but uh. I have a feeling that that won't flow too well with the general populace.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
February 16 2008 18:49 GMT
#887
On February 17 2008 03:44 dronebabo wrote:
so whats noble about prancing around when u defeat your opponent

Uh, i never said that was noble, I was referring to my reason for defending, compared to the other ones and not FBH himself. And I agree when you say the ceremonies are in bad taste :O but I find the reaction funny.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2008 18:54 GMT
#888
decorum i think you're being too nice

the kid runs around in a swimming tube humping the air dancing around his opponent that was sad for losing to him...if you find that funny theres no difference in finding him crying after getting raped funny

its funny/satisfying to see a little ego get whats coming to him, thats just human nature. should we sit around feeling salty that the poor kids dreams just got bursted and he cried? atleast if we laugh and get pleasure out of it something good is coming from it
why so 진지해?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
February 16 2008 19:01 GMT
#889
On February 17 2008 03:54 Rekrul wrote:
decorum i think you're being too nice

the kid runs around in a swimming tube humping the air dancing around his opponent that was sad for losing to him...if you find that funny theres no difference in finding him crying after getting raped funny

its funny/satisfying to see a little ego get whats coming to him, thats just human nature. should we sit around feeling salty that the poor kids dreams just got bursted and he cried? atleast if we laugh and get pleasure out of it something good is coming from it


I like it when he's eliminated from individual leagues, and don't mind/am slightly amused when he cries there.

but in ProLeague I think he's crying more for letting down the team than for getting raped in that particular game and not being able to show his ceremony. so basically I'm willing to laugh at him if it's his own personal failure, but if it's for failing his teammates, I am not so eager to make fun of him.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 19:03:43
February 16 2008 19:02 GMT
#890
On February 17 2008 03:54 Rekrul wrote:
decorum i think you're being too nice

the kid runs around in a swimming tube humping the air dancing around his opponent that was sad for losing to him...if you find that funny theres no difference in finding him crying after getting raped funny

its funny/satisfying to see a little ego get whats coming to him, thats just human nature. should we sit around feeling salty that the poor kids dreams just got bursted and he cried? atleast if we laugh and get pleasure out of it something good is coming from it


Hahaha, maybe I am...

Well, I think the primary difference is that they were laughing at FirebatHero when he was dancing and being happy, and not laughing at his defeated opponent. In this situation, people are laughing not because of his opponent's ceremony, but at FirebatHero, the loser himself, in possibly one of his worst moments. FirebatHero is pretty arrogant, sure, but I think the audience saw his swimming tube ceremony probably more derogatory towards himself, and not so much to his opponent.

Now I feel dry though, because I didn't find the swimming tube air dancing funny... it was a lot more embarrassing... :O

Yeah, I guess I'm a bit of an idealist. Or cynic. But i don't know... pleasure directly from someone else's pain? Seems a bit mean hearted. Besides, every time FirebatHero wins, lots dismiss it. When he loses, everyone mentions karma. How much karma has to happen before his few unsightly incidents are erased anyway?

But then again, that's a pretty big digression that has no answer.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2008 19:04 GMT
#891
before the match he says all this shit about how hes going to rape easily

then he gets raped

then he cries

come onnnn......
why so 진지해?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2008 19:06 GMT
#892
On February 17 2008 04:02 Ark)dEcOrum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2008 03:54 Rekrul wrote:
decorum i think you're being too nice

the kid runs around in a swimming tube humping the air dancing around his opponent that was sad for losing to him...if you find that funny theres no difference in finding him crying after getting raped funny

its funny/satisfying to see a little ego get whats coming to him, thats just human nature. should we sit around feeling salty that the poor kids dreams just got bursted and he cried? atleast if we laugh and get pleasure out of it something good is coming from it


Hahaha, maybe I am...

Well, I think the primary difference is that they were laughing at FirebatHero when he was dancing and being happy, and not laughing at his defeated opponent. In this situation, people are laughing not because of his opponent's ceremony, but at FirebatHero, the loser himself, in possibly one of his worst moments. FirebatHero is pretty arrogant, sure, but I think the audience saw his swimming tube ceremony probably more derogatory towards himself, and not so much to his opponent.

Now I feel dry though, because I didn't find the swimming tube air dancing funny... it was a lot more embarrassing... :O

Yeah, I guess I'm a bit of an idealist. Or cynic. But i don't know... pleasure directly from someone else's pain? Seems a bit mean hearted. Besides, every time FirebatHero wins, lots dismiss it. When he loses, everyone mentions karma. How much karma has to happen before his few unsightly incidents are erased anyway?

But then again, that's a pretty big digression that has no answer.


well i agree, laughing and taking pleasure at his dismay does make someone an asshole, but like u can laugh at the guy and be like KARMA fucker and still feel bad for him a little bit at the same time
why so 진지해?
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
February 16 2008 19:06 GMT
#893
On February 17 2008 04:04 Rekrul wrote:
before the match he says all this shit about how hes going to rape easily

then he gets raped

then he cries

come onnnn......

Hm, well. You can't say it wasn't mutual, and that Lecaf didn't do it too...
It's not like Samsung was just bullying without retaliation in the period before the game.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2008 19:06 GMT
#894
before the match backstage i was talking to like 6 of the samsung guys

'hey i bet 500$ vs my friend im betting on lecaf to win so i hope you fuckers all lose'

"118181818181818118181818"
why so 진지해?
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
February 16 2008 19:09 GMT
#895
On February 17 2008 03:54 Rekrul wrote:
decorum i think you're being too nice

the kid runs around in a swimming tube humping the air dancing around his opponent that was sad for losing to him...if you find that funny theres no difference in finding him crying after getting raped funny

its funny/satisfying to see a little ego get whats coming to him, thats just human nature. should we sit around feeling salty that the poor kids dreams just got bursted and he cried? atleast if we laugh and get pleasure out of it something good is coming from it


Well that's being sadistic and filled with your self assertive sense of justice.

Yes FBH runs out like a flaming homo when he wins, gets crushed when he loses, but to be honest, I think he's just trying to live the moment, egotistical and what not. And I think he was crying not simply because he lost, but he let the people closest to him, his team down. Of all the times I've seen him lose, I haven't seen him that terrible.

I found nothing satisfying about someone utterly failing something they worked hard at, especially when its out for a group and not for an individual. I'm not saying everyone should get "salty" but rather see that FBH is not some one-sided bloated Starcraft Freddy Mercury.

O sure you could back that up with, "He mocked Savior in epic proportions." Hasn't savior neck rolled a sarcastic ceremony against jju? Claiming he would 3-0 Bisu before he got utterly raped? Smack talked down the entire Sparkyz Team during one season of MSL? Everyones got that side, FBH just shows it more on the exterior, perhaps even more honest about it.
:D
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
February 16 2008 19:10 GMT
#896
On February 17 2008 04:06 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2008 04:02 Ark)dEcOrum wrote:
On February 17 2008 03:54 Rekrul wrote:
decorum i think you're being too nice

the kid runs around in a swimming tube humping the air dancing around his opponent that was sad for losing to him...if you find that funny theres no difference in finding him crying after getting raped funny

its funny/satisfying to see a little ego get whats coming to him, thats just human nature. should we sit around feeling salty that the poor kids dreams just got bursted and he cried? atleast if we laugh and get pleasure out of it something good is coming from it


Hahaha, maybe I am...

Well, I think the primary difference is that they were laughing at FirebatHero when he was dancing and being happy, and not laughing at his defeated opponent. In this situation, people are laughing not because of his opponent's ceremony, but at FirebatHero, the loser himself, in possibly one of his worst moments. FirebatHero is pretty arrogant, sure, but I think the audience saw his swimming tube ceremony probably more derogatory towards himself, and not so much to his opponent.

Now I feel dry though, because I didn't find the swimming tube air dancing funny... it was a lot more embarrassing... :O

Yeah, I guess I'm a bit of an idealist. Or cynic. But i don't know... pleasure directly from someone else's pain? Seems a bit mean hearted. Besides, every time FirebatHero wins, lots dismiss it. When he loses, everyone mentions karma. How much karma has to happen before his few unsightly incidents are erased anyway?

But then again, that's a pretty big digression that has no answer.


well i agree, laughing and taking pleasure at his dismay does make someone an asshole, but like u can laugh at the guy and be like KARMA fucker and still feel bad for him a little bit at the same time


I agree with that, definitely. I just think there are some things that you shouldn't laugh about, like crying. Laughing at his gameplay or arrogance is fine and it's really deserved, if I do say so myself.

Maybe it's just a personal preference? I just tend to think that saying he deserves to cry, instead of deserves to lose is a bit harsh, even though it's such a minor detail.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2008 19:16 GMT
#897
i think savior, next time he plays and beats FBH should stand up and start fake crying as his ceremony
why so 진지해?
ineverwin
Profile Joined January 2008
United States93 Posts
February 16 2008 19:18 GMT
#898
fbh tries to humiliate people when he wins, and he got humiliated when he lost.

fair is fair.
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 19:20:35
February 16 2008 19:19 GMT
#899
On February 17 2008 04:16 Rekrul wrote:
i think savior, next time he plays and beats FBH should stand up and start fake crying as his ceremony

If he did that, I definitely would lose most of the respect I had for him. Unlike FirebatHero's ceremonies, that would just be a personal attack...
Saviors subtle ceremonies right now perfectly suit him. XD This would be so out of place...

On February 17 2008 04:18 ineverwin wrote:
fbh tries to humiliate people when he wins, and he got humiliated when he lost.

fair is fair.


I agree with that to an extent, and that's not really the argument...
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
February 16 2008 19:20 GMT
#900
people cry because of what the thing means to them. they're not crying about the game, theyre crying about how they blew it, or how they let their team down etc. i've seen big basketball players and football players cry too. It's all sports and it's what you make of it.
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