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[MBC vs CJ] Shinhan R2 Proleague Playoffs 08/01/19 - Page 76

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JIJI
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
January 19 2008 17:26 GMT
#1501
Holy shit, CJ fucking pulled through. Much truly is a leader, boosting the team's confidence! XD Darkelf is seriously getting better. I guess with Coach Cho constantly sending Darkelf for Aces does something. Epic Semis. Epic. CJ vs. Lecaf next........Hope CJ wins XD
Believing forever in sAviOr. Jaedong complete domination. IefNaij scarab explosion. MUCH <3
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
January 19 2008 17:33 GMT
#1502
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 19 2008 17:33 GMT
#1503
I hate sea.

Remove this choke-artist from the power rank asap.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
January 19 2008 17:38 GMT
#1504
On January 20 2008 02:33 Wasabi wrote:
CJ won't win if no one in their team has the ability to beat Jaedong, and then someone who can survive against Anytime. I'm sure Lecaf's coach will use Jaedong in every chance they get. Also, their lineup has been the most predictable and the reason they're at the top now. It will be easy to plan against their lineup, but the problem is whether anyone will be able to surpass Jaedong even in just one game. If they could tailor one player specialized to snipe Jaedong out, CJ's chances of winning will skyrocket.

I think it's a tougher call than that. JD and anytime can only play three games between the two of them.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 19 2008 17:45 GMT
#1505
On January 20 2008 01:28 joeki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2008 00:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
How long have YOU been following progaming? I agree with theforeverwar and you obviously don't know DarkElf very well if you think he can't make that mistake


Mind games as well as mistakes do exist. To judge what this was in DarkElfs case you have to know how DarkElf usually plays, sure, but it's MUCH more a question about knowing the game.

Anyone who isn't DarkElf or an extremely good player and still believes he is 100 % sure of what was going on, greatly overvalues his knowledge.


i've been following and analyzing progaming for like 5 years, i'm pretty sure i know what i'm talking about
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
January 19 2008 17:55 GMT
#1506
I just rewatched that last game and realized DE didn't repair his tank, those 3 SCVs were all Sea's. I also noticed that Sea made and academy and researched goliath range, which indicates that he expected a more wraith focused strategy.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
January 19 2008 18:02 GMT
#1507
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 19 2008 18:02 GMT
#1508
I LOVE YOU CJ I LOVE YOU
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
January 19 2008 18:06 GMT
#1509
On January 20 2008 03:02 Wasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2008 02:38 kramus wrote:
On January 20 2008 02:33 Wasabi wrote:
CJ won't win if no one in their team has the ability to beat Jaedong, and then someone who can survive against Anytime. I'm sure Lecaf's coach will use Jaedong in every chance they get. Also, their lineup has been the most predictable and the reason they're at the top now. It will be easy to plan against their lineup, but the problem is whether anyone will be able to surpass Jaedong even in just one game. If they could tailor one player specialized to snipe Jaedong out, CJ's chances of winning will skyrocket.

I think it's a tougher call than that. JD and anytime can only play three games between the two of them.


Isn't that what I emphasized? I said that Jaedong will be used in any chance the coach gets (that's what I think he'd do in case it comes to the ace match), meaning he'll be used in 1v1, and in the ace match.

Really, other than Jaedong and Anytime, CJ does not have to worry about any particular player. For the rest of Lecaf's lineup, they'll just have to send their strong, standard players, which they have plenty of.

Still, even if Lecaf can theoretically only win 3 games (Anytime and Jaedong pre-ace, and the predictable Jaedong as ace) based on what I said, if someone can beat Jaedong (who's really on top right now), as I've said, CJ's chances of winning boosts way up.


For an ace match dont discount them sending anytime, yes jaedong is osl champ but anytime is proleague mvp and this is the proleague playoffs, also both players got to be riding highs right now both clearing their groups 2-0
OMG you nasty gurl
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
January 19 2008 18:31 GMT
#1510
CJ Entus vs Lecaf Oz

1 <Python>

2 <Baekmagoji>

3 <Seongangil>

4 <Monty Hall SE>

5 <Un'Goro Crater>

6 <Hwangsanbul>

7 <Blue Storm>

With that map set, I think they'd send JD for ACE. He's proven himself to do well on Blue Storm recently, and it does statistically favor zerg (though some say that the stats are lying here). For their first matches, I think Anytime and JD could be sent out on any of the maps, but they'd probably have to be sent out fairly early. After that, they still have Hiya, Forgg, and Backho.

I think I'll vote lecaf, though I'm sure CJ's coach will find an ideal lineup.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 19 2008 18:32 GMT
#1511
well I'm happy Xellos's team won ^.^
Xellos <3
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
January 19 2008 19:23 GMT
#1512
nooo freaking way!!!! i cant believe this!!!! CJ is going to win :D just like 2004 :D
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
January 19 2008 19:44 GMT
#1513
CJ, so clutch so clean
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
January 19 2008 20:34 GMT
#1514
Been expecting a Lecaf vs CJ final since week 2. Didn't think it'd happen when I saw the lineups though.

YAY ELFIE!!!!
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
January 19 2008 20:45 GMT
#1515
I'd be worried about Jaedong, but CJ has players that are more than capable of beating Anytime.
They're lineup is also so much deeper, I think they need to be favored over Lecaf.
Right now they just seem like a team of destiny.
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-19 22:49:51
January 19 2008 21:30 GMT
#1516
[MBCgame vs CJ Entus] ShinHan Pro League Round 2 Playoffs - 19 Feb, 2008
2008-01-19 (Saturday), 14:00



MBCGame HERO vs CJ Entus



Game 1
(T)Sea <Monty Hall SE> (T)DarkElf

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Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4 / Part 5 / Part 6 / Part 7



Game 2
(P)Pusan <Baekmagoji> (Z)Kwanro

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Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

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Game 3
(Z)Saint/(T)Light <Hwangsanbul> (Z)sAviOr/(P)Nbs[gm]

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Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4



Game 4
(P)Bisu <Katrina> (T)Iris

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Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

Part 1 / Part 2



Game 5
(Z)HyuN <Blue Storm> (P)Much

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Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4



Game 6
(T)910/(Z)Thezerg <Seongangil> (Z)Jy/(T)Memory

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Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3



Game 7
Ace Match <Python>

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(T)Sea <Python> (T)DarkElf



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM (MBCgame / OGN)

Part 1 / Part 2


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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
January 19 2008 21:37 GMT
#1517
On January 20 2008 03:02 Wasabi wrote:
...

Still, even if Lecaf can theoretically only win 3 games (Anytime and Jaedong pre-ace, and the predictable Jaedong as ace) based on what I said, if someone can beat Jaedong (who's really on top right now), as I've said, CJ's chances of winning boosts way up.

this just isn't true, progaming is so volatile and unpredictable that there's no way you can discount guys like backho, forgg, and hiya, saying they have basically no chance to win. Backho was beating Much in a PvP just the other day (but lost, still it was really close) and Hiya is 4-1 in his last 5 TvTs with wins over DarkElf and Flash. Imo it's much more likely one of CJ's better players gets upset by one of these guys than Jaedong or Anytime going down.

On a side note, Jaedong is 14-1 in his last 15 games, the only loss being to Stork on Persona. Wins over Savior, July, Bisu, Yarnc, Up, Stork, etc. So sick.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 19 2008 21:38 GMT
#1518
On January 20 2008 02:33 Wasabi wrote:
CJ won't win if no one in their team has the ability to beat Jaedong, and then someone who can survive against Anytime. I'm sure Lecaf's coach will use Jaedong in every chance they get. Also, their lineup has been the most predictable and the reason they're at the top now. It will be easy to plan against their lineup, but the problem is whether anyone will be able to surpass Jaedong even in just one game. If they could tailor one player specialized to snipe Jaedong out, CJ's chances of winning will skyrocket.



Er...like half of CJ is good enough to beat Anytime.

The only auto win I'd give Lecaf is Jaedong vs anyone.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
January 19 2008 21:45 GMT
#1519
light and saint are such a gosu 2v2 team
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kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
January 19 2008 22:29 GMT
#1520
[QUOTE]On January 20 2008 06:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 20 2008 03:02 Wasabi wrote:
...
Jaedong is 15-1 in his last 16 games, the only loss being to Stork on Persona. Wins over Savior, July, Bisu, Yarnc, Up, Stork, etc. So sick.[/QUOTE]
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