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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
January 19 2008 09:31 GMT
#1441
On January 19 2008 18:11 The Storyteller wrote:
I TOLD YOU SO!!! I SAID CJ WOULD WIN!!!! NOBODY BELIEVED ME!!!!


HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT! NOBODY BELIEVED YOU!

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I <3 서지훈
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 19 2008 09:31 GMT
#1442
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:19 Aillusion wrote:
Hm leacaf only has anytime and jaedong to secure wins, rest 5 matchups will be in CJ's favor cuz CJ has alot more better players to choose from


anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
RaiSad
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States325 Posts
January 19 2008 09:32 GMT
#1443
On January 19 2008 18:31 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:11 The Storyteller wrote:
I TOLD YOU SO!!! I SAID CJ WOULD WIN!!!! NOBODY BELIEVED ME!!!!


HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT! NOBODY BELIEVED YOU!

[image loading]


lolz
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 19 2008 09:32 GMT
#1444
Ya'll need to recognize the difference between a distinguished loss, and clear skill divide, and a flat choke.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 19 2008 09:32 GMT
#1445
On January 19 2008 18:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:19 Aillusion wrote:
Hm leacaf only has anytime and jaedong to secure wins, rest 5 matchups will be in CJ's favor cuz CJ has alot more better players to choose from


anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!

what a huge quote!!!!!!!
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 19 2008 09:32 GMT
#1446
Jaedong and Anytime aren't unbeatable, I could see several of the CJ players being able to possibly take games from the Lecaf Duo.
Moderator
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
January 19 2008 09:33 GMT
#1447
On January 19 2008 18:32 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:19 Aillusion wrote:
Hm leacaf only has anytime and jaedong to secure wins, rest 5 matchups will be in CJ's favor cuz CJ has alot more better players to choose from


anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!

what a huge quote!!!!!!!


This is a big quote!!!!!
Moderator<:3-/-<
suprabum3
Profile Joined December 2007
United States373 Posts
January 19 2008 09:33 GMT
#1448
On January 19 2008 18:32 HonestTea wrote:
Ya'll need to recognize the difference between a distinguished loss, and clear skill divide, and a flat choke.


lol, and which camp are you in ht?
There are two types of tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want, the other is getting it..
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4410 Posts
January 19 2008 09:34 GMT
#1449
Yep. Anytime can drop the ball, so can Jaedong, they are still.. mostly human. Anything can happen in the finals.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 19 2008 09:34 GMT
#1450
On January 19 2008 18:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:19 Aillusion wrote:
Hm leacaf only has anytime and jaedong to secure wins, rest 5 matchups will be in CJ's favor cuz CJ has alot more better players to choose from


anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!


But OGN is not Lecaf and Lecaf did not play last week!!!!
Moderator
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 19 2008 09:35 GMT
#1451
On January 19 2008 18:34 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:19 Aillusion wrote:
Hm leacaf only has anytime and jaedong to secure wins, rest 5 matchups will be in CJ's favor cuz CJ has alot more better players to choose from


anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!


But OGN is not Lecaf and Lecaf did not play last week!!!!


i wonder if rushz0rz understands yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
January 19 2008 09:35 GMT
#1452
On January 19 2008 18:34 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:19 Aillusion wrote:
Hm leacaf only has anytime and jaedong to secure wins, rest 5 matchups will be in CJ's favor cuz CJ has alot more better players to choose from


anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!


But OGN is not Lecaf and Lecaf did not play last week!!!!


i hate you guys!!!
go OVERSKY MODE!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
January 19 2008 09:36 GMT
#1453
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Moderator<:3-/-<
suprabum3
Profile Joined December 2007
United States373 Posts
January 19 2008 09:36 GMT
#1454
this loss is gonna effect sea in msl/osl.. talk about a mental letdown
There are two types of tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want, the other is getting it..
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
January 19 2008 09:37 GMT
#1455
On January 19 2008 18:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:34 semioldguy wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:29 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:28 rushz0rz wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:27 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:24 ray1234 wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:23 Sunyveil wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
[quote]

anytime and jaedong winning means lecaf only has to win one of the remaining four games to send it to an ace, and then lecaf can send anytime or jaedong again


plus, 2v2 isn't an autowin for CJ

forGG and BackHo aren't pushovers, either


2v2 is more like an auto win for leacaf

Anytime + jaedong + justin/flower = autowin 3 games


Justin/Flower??? that was last week buddy


justin and flower are on OGN.


ogn played last week!!!!!


Lecaf is a different team from OGN!!!!!


flower and justin are not on lecaf they are on ogn who played last week!!!!!!!!! justin and flower played last week!!!!!!


But OGN is not Lecaf and Lecaf did not play last week!!!!


i wonder if rushz0rz understands yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude ogn and lecaf are different teams.. -.-
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 19 2008 09:38 GMT
#1456
On January 19 2008 18:24 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2008 18:22 The Storyteller wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:17 Aillusion wrote:
On January 19 2008 18:16 The Storyteller wrote:
Wait... why is this because Sea choked? I know he scouted the starport, but surely he would have expected some wraith harrass into expo for Darkelf, right? Who the hell does a tank/marine/wraith all in in an ace match? It doesn't sound like he played badly at all.


its not just the starport sea scouted, Before DE pushed, Sea even scounted DE's rax in middle pumping rines, and he didnt do anythin, choke?


It was a completely unorthodox build. That's not choking, that's natural.

On a different note... I wonder about three things:

1. Why DE scouted cross position first
2. Why DE let the SCV into his base (was it deliberate or did he just not care anymore by that point?)
3. Did DE change his mind about wrath harrass or did he have this planned from the start?

Watching the replay, his troop positioning for the all in was beautiful.

DE let scv in to scout port so sea would build armory and delay siege? o.O



That would solve nearly every question we have about this game, actually. It did seem like he let the SCV in.

So DE lets the scout into his base so Sea worries more about the wraiths than anything. Meanwhile, he's actually going fast siege and not an abundance of wraiths, or cloak or anything. Sea commits to a battle he thought he could win, but once he realizes DE has siege, it's already too late?

People aren't going to want to believe he intentionally let the scout in though (and he may not have, of course), if only because he's not considered a top tier player. If boxer happened to do it, we'd see it on PP2008 without a doubt. =P

But still, a timing push like that, with siege, and in an extremely important all-or-nothing game? I'm even more surprised now after analyzing all this.
Oh, my eSports
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 19 2008 09:41 GMT
#1457
Of all the people to perform that response on the PL finals stage, I hadn't expected Sea. Bisu/Light/Sea winning didn't prove enough today.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-19 09:51:22
January 19 2008 09:41 GMT
#1458
On January 19 2008 18:24 QibingZero wrote:
The siege timing was pretty insane, I have to say. It seemed Sea didn't think he would have to deal with it, and after taking the first hits he was already committed to the battle. Crazy game to cap off a bunch of other great ones.

But really, Sea is ridiculously good... CJ just has some sort of magic this season that even he couldn't stop.


Pretty insane? It was a totally standard 1 fact siege --> 1 port pressure build;P

To some others: Sea didnt make an acad. And theres no way DE let the scv in to make sea make an armory. Almost all terrans get a pretty quick armory anyways and you actually WANT an armory against 1 fact 1 wraith. Theres no reason to make an acad when you scout a starport flashing when an addon hasnt been built yet. Especially when the shop isnt spinning.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-19 09:44:00
January 19 2008 09:42 GMT
#1459
On January 19 2008 18:36 suprabum3 wrote:
this loss is gonna effect sea in msl/osl.. talk about a mental letdown

I'm going to assassinate Coach Ha if that'll come true, which it won't.
But I'll go ahead and buy the sniper rifle anyway, just in case.
Sea > MBC, All for one and One for 2 titles!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
January 19 2008 09:43 GMT
#1460
surely there will be post-game interviews to clear up that particular issue. hopefully someone will translate for us =)
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