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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
January 15 2008 11:27 GMT
#181
On January 15 2008 20:27 Elsi wrote:
nice reports guys! cheers!

Yeah great reports, thanks a lot.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
January 15 2008 11:27 GMT
#182
Cows stampeding into terran natural, but get taken down eventually. Yet by now it is only stalling for time for Memory, Luxury has the map.
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dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 15 2008 11:29 GMT
#183
Haha cool i see, guessed i missed the games, but i bet 90% of Tl.Net voted for luxury right? To see him get 0-2'ed kinda sux Guess that is this year's MSL curse. Actually, what memory needs to do now is actually buff up his TvT and TvP, his TvZ is actually top notch imo, another CJ quality player to win the starleague ~!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
January 15 2008 11:29 GMT
#184
lux taking the 3 gas base now. he does another attack into mania's nat. loses all his ultralisks. mania pulls a nice defensive matrix. but in the meantime. an ultra and a ling at the 9 gas base forces it to float. more ultras and lings at the 6 base forces that to float as well.
#1 midas fan
Bazse
Profile Joined August 2007
Hungary582 Posts
January 15 2008 11:29 GMT
#185
Memory constantly losing vessels, now he is fighting with scvs against Ultras. Luxurys expoes at 12 and in the bottom right are up for quite a long time now, he has 6 gas (probably his main and back nat is depleted by now), and he's pumping ultras like crazy. Memory losing his last vessels, now he's barely hanging in the game, he needs an expo, but gets denied every single time. I'm not impressed by Memory's play anymore.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-15 11:34:07
January 15 2008 11:29 GMT
#186
On January 15 2008 20:25 The Storyteller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2008 20:20 dragoonkf wrote:
On January 15 2008 20:11 Barbarne wrote:
If Memory would do his awesome fake FE just like he did against july and lux would fall for it, I would be deeply dissapointed in lux.


Umm im not sure, but i DO remember it was the awesome tvp dodger, tvz art player Casy Aka iOi[Alive]/Really[Alive] who did the fake fe to july right ?

Anyway, sounds from the live report that Luxury seems to be losing ? Keep going pangshai, always love your live reports !


Poor July got it from Memory as well. He faked a one rax CC when he had hidden two more raxes somewhere.

Memory is actually a really talented player, and he has the kind of mind (and time!) to come up with great strategies. He just needs to steady his nerves.


hehe, i watched your documentary again and i noticed some faces that wouldn't have been recognised back then.

kwanro and mania :D

also he was drinking coke instead of soju lool
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pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
January 15 2008 11:30 GMT
#187
defiler mound up for luxury. its obvious he has a lot of gas. mass ultras dying and getting replaced all the time. mass scourge for luxury as well. mania's vessels basically don't even get an irradiate or a defensive matrix down before they die. mania GGs after being unable to establish his 6 or 9 expo.
#1 midas fan
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-15 11:32:44
January 15 2008 11:31 GMT
#188
On January 15 2008 20:29 dragoonkf wrote:
Haha cool i see, guessed i missed the games, but i bet 90% of Tl.Net voted for luxury right? To see him get 0-2'ed kinda sux Guess that is this year's MSL curse.


what? did I miss the game already being over? My player just lagged around, but it looked like Luxury was taking this.

edit: phew, ok, Luxury didnt throw it. But this firebat hiding move could have really tipped the scales. Good he consoled himself. What I noticed was abysmal scourge dodging by Memory, his vessels died so easily to the scourge Luxury threw at him, thus he could never really combat the ultra-masses.
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Bazse
Profile Joined August 2007
Hungary582 Posts
January 15 2008 11:31 GMT
#189
Memory losing all his vessels again. And again. His newly build/floated or whatever expoes are getting raped by Ultras, while Lux still has a lot of bases, Memory GGs and taps out. Lux got himself together by the end of the midgame. Memory is out of this MSL.
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
January 15 2008 11:32 GMT
#190
Awesome play by Lux. Despite losing like four hatcheries to drops he kept himself in the game by using scourges perfectly against the vessels.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
January 15 2008 11:32 GMT
#191
Damn I have to go! Lux please take the last game!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
January 15 2008 11:34 GMT
#192
Memory's games often follow the same pattern. A brilliant opening followed by play that goes steadily downhill, probably because of nerves leading to worse and worse multitasking. If he could pull himself together, he would have easily got past Mind in the last MSL.
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
January 15 2008 11:36 GMT
#193
I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first.
Bazse
Profile Joined August 2007
Hungary582 Posts
January 15 2008 11:36 GMT
#194
On January 15 2008 20:34 The Storyteller wrote:
Memory's games often follow the same pattern. A brilliant opening followed by play that goes steadily downhill, probably because of nerves leading to worse and worse multitasking. If he could pull himself together, he would have easily got past Mind in the last MSL.


Yes, he played very well in early and early-mid game and then his play has fallen apart. His vessel handling was quite shitty.
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
January 15 2008 11:37 GMT
#195
distracted that game, so the reports were rather shoddy, but basically luxury came back from his disadvantage because of his muta harass. in my opinion, mania made the mistake of moving out into the centre of the map (possibly to stop a 4th gas from going up), instead of just turtling vs the mutas, expoing to his back nat, getting good upgrades to match those of the zerg, and getting irradiate to take out the mutas.

because he moved out, and because of poor micro, the mutas were able to kill off many many small groups of medicless armies, delay the expo at the backnat, and even snipe off half the army that mania moved out with. so instead of moving out with possibly a 100 supply army of upgraded marine medic with vessel support and good upgrades, he moved out with a small army that got raped by ultraling.

mania did make some good drops though, taking out 1 evo chamber, and almost taking out the second one (1-2 squares of hp left on it). drops also stopped luxury's 4th gases for a while, but eventually they became ineffective as luxury's army mobility + growing economy meant that he could afford scourges and spare lings/ultra to take them out.
#1 midas fan
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-15 11:39:45
January 15 2008 11:37 GMT
#196
On January 15 2008 20:36 Barbarne wrote:
I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first.

Jaedong? Mebbe?

edit: July too, of course.
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Liquid`Daaman
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1225 Posts
January 15 2008 11:40 GMT
#197
July?!
Comfortably Numb
Bazse
Profile Joined August 2007
Hungary582 Posts
January 15 2008 11:40 GMT
#198
On January 15 2008 20:37 pangshai wrote:
distracted that game, so the reports were rather shoddy, but basically luxury came back from his disadvantage because of his muta harass. in my opinion, mania made the mistake of moving out into the centre of the map (possibly to stop a 4th gas from going up), instead of just turtling vs the mutas, expoing to his back nat, getting good upgrades to match those of the zerg, and getting irradiate to take out the mutas.

because he moved out, and because of poor micro, the mutas were able to kill off many many small groups of medicless armies, delay the expo at the backnat, and even snipe off half the army that mania moved out with. so instead of moving out with possibly a 100 supply army of upgraded marine medic with vessel support and good upgrades, he moved out with a small army that got raped by ultraling.

mania did make some good drops though, taking out 1 evo chamber, and almost taking out the second one (1-2 squares of hp left on it). drops also stopped luxury's 4th gases for a while, but eventually they became ineffective as luxury's army mobility + growing economy meant that he could afford scourges and spare lings/ultra to take them out.


Agreed, the turning point was the mutaharass, although after that Memory still played well the 1, almost 2 evo taken out and the constant drops on Lux's expoes were pretty nice too. I felt Memory was going to win then.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-15 11:44:09
January 15 2008 11:42 GMT
#199
On January 15 2008 20:40 Liquid`Daaman wrote:
July?!

Well yeah. 2nd in MSL group B and he has been placed in OSL group C. Jaedong was 1st in his MSL group and is of course in OSL group A.

edit#13349: Sea is in as well.
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dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 15 2008 11:44 GMT
#200
On January 15 2008 20:37 Aesop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2008 20:36 Barbarne wrote:
I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first.

Jaedong? Mebbe?

edit: July too, of course.


Im not sure, i remember july usually qualifies for both starleague together, so it couldnt be his first ?
Maybe Jaedong and Luxury are though. Cheers again to live reports by Aesop,Pangshai and Basze, thanks !
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