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prosatan
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HYPE !!!!  | ||
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prosatan
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Don't forget to LB guys ! I went safe and choose Rush and Bisu... | ||
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WGT-Baal
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On August 16 2026 22:03 prosatan wrote: Thanks BLinD-RawR !! Don't forget to LB guys ! I went safe and choose Rush and Bisu... Same but there is always a chance for...the bucket! | ||
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But Rush has looked quite good of late! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 14:52 RowdierBob wrote: Hard to see Bisu and Rush not making it out here. But I have the bucket at the ready as always. | ||
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prosatan
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On August 17 2026 17:07 BLinD-RawR wrote: But I have the bucket at the ready as always. As is tradition. | ||
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c3rberUs
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From year 2000 gosu, still casting the game in 2026. Respect | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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If Bisu loses to Shuttle, someone bring out the buckets | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 19:17 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: Shuttle, the bane of proleague, is in ASL. If Bisu loses to Shuttle, someone bring out the buckets remember Group A usually never goes as planned. | ||
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gravity
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only to lose to Zerg again | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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more like hmmmm ur dead | ||
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Poll: bisu: bucket or no bucket? bucket (6) no bucket (3) 9 total votes Your vote: bisu: bucket or no bucket? | ||
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gravity
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On August 17 2026 19:38 c3rberUs wrote: I predict a protoss win I'll believe it when I see it | ||
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prosatan
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+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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prosatan
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he takes his nat ... pretty early | ||
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prosatan
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Bisu > Shuttle in this game Rush > Bisu Shuttle > Hm Shuttle > Bisu .... | ||
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c3rberUs
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On August 17 2026 19:41 prosatan wrote: First game already uploaded by Best on his youtube channel: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LpWKfRB0YQ Youtube worked fast lol | ||
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On August 17 2026 19:38 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: Poll: bisu: bucket or no bucket? bucket (6) no bucket (3) 9 total votes Your vote: bisu: bucket or no bucket? can I change my vote? | ||
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c3rberUs
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On August 17 2026 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: people forget, unlike bisu, shuttle actually won an ASL the bucket might not be big enough | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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winner match is BO1 or BO 3 guys ?? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 19:53 prosatan wrote: this is it... gg...well done shuttle... winner match is BO1 or BO 3 guys ?? all bo1 | ||
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On August 17 2026 19:55 BLinD-RawR wrote: in all seriousness this works out better for bisu then he faces shuttle again | ||
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prosatan
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thanks BLinD-RawR! at least bisu still has a chance ... i think he'll win easily vs Hm... i hope... | ||
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prosatan
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 instead i recommend this song  + Show Spoiler + | ||
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c3rberUs
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FlaSh 81% Rush 58% Light 58% | ||
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Naib
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I read smth about this (I'm not following SC:BW that closely) but I thought ppl were either joking or trolling. Can't wait to see how the pros deal with this type of map | ||
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prosatan
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On August 17 2026 20:09 prosatan wrote: terran can hold i think.. i am stupid well done shuttle ! Really man ! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 20:10 c3rberUs wrote: WTF This is always what Group A is like. | ||
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c3rberUs
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On August 17 2026 20:06 Naib wrote: Holy shit this really is a Fa$te$$t po$$ible style of map?! I read smth about this (I'm not following SC:BW that closely) but I thought ppl were either joking or trolling. Can't wait to see how the pros deal with this type of map Only the main has those minerals | ||
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c3rberUs
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On August 17 2026 20:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: Rush gonna be like this map wasn't buffed enough CCs going to start with full energy scans now | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 20:13 Destroyer wrote: RO24 keeps delivering again.. bo1 nonsense. I love how people still complain about Bo1 like we never had Bo1 groupstages over the last near 3 decades. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 20:13 RowdierBob wrote: We’re losing one of Bisu or Rush today :O I'd rather lose Bisu but we need to keep the balance in this tournament somehow. | ||
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Naib
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Looks more than enough for me to heavily change the meta...is there a limit on how many workers can even mine in the main? If it's unlimited, I'm not sure there is much point in expanding unless I'm missing something | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:16 Naib wrote: Looks more than enough for me to heavily change the meta...is there a limit on how many workers can even mine in the main? If it's unlimited, I'm not sure there is much point in expanding unless I'm missing something There are only 8 patches stacked. But yes, it changes gameplay, especially opening timings | ||
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TMNT
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He was willing to lose that game to erase the meme. I bet it will only intensify though lol. | ||
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gravity
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 20:16 c3rberUs wrote: It's a tradition, just like balance whine. actually it isn't, complaining about Bo1 has only been a thing since ASL has been a thing. nobody was complaining back in the group stages of OSL and MSL | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 20:17 gravity wrote: Has the winner's match always been a Bo1 as well? I thought it was just the first 2 that were Bo1s thats from Ro16 Ro24 has always been just standard dual tournament Bo1 | ||
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gravity
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Ah right | ||
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c3rberUs
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On August 17 2026 20:17 BLinD-RawR wrote: actually it isn't, complaining about Bo1 has only been a thing since ASL has been a thing. nobody was complaining back in the group stages of OSL and MSL Oh yeah I forgot. People got accustomed to Bo3s for online tournaments. Group stages give each player 2 matches minimum though 2016 is 10 years ago. o.o | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:15 BLinD-RawR wrote: I love how people still complain about Bo1 like we never had Bo1 groupstages over the last near 3 decades. Well, I kept complaining about it for last nearly 3 decades and will keep on. It is what it is. ;-) | ||
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TMNT
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On August 17 2026 20:16 Naib wrote: Looks more than enough for me to heavily change the meta...is there a limit on how many workers can even mine in the main? If it's unlimited, I'm not sure there is much point in expanding unless I'm missing something Only 8 patches can be mined, so you don't get much extra value from the 9th worker mining mineral in the main, which means fast expansion is a must. So basically the game becomes a normal game with accelerated tech/expansion and faster income from one base. From what I've seen there's a 3 Fac timing from Terran that hits like crack, but nothing that cannot be dealt with with preparation. Whether some players are hiding some builds for ASL remains to be seen. Maybe what we've just seen from Shuttle is one of them. | ||
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Mini 60% Snow 57% Bisu 53% (how the mighty have fallen) | ||
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Naib
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On August 17 2026 20:23 TMNT wrote: Only 8 patches can be mined, so you don't get much extra value from the 9th worker mining mineral in the main, which means fast expansion is a must. So basically the game becomes a normal game with accelerated tech/expansion and faster income from one base. From what I've seen there's a 3 Fac timing from Terran that hits like crack, but nothing that cannot be dealt with with preparation. Whether some players are hiding some builds for ASL remains to be seen. Maybe what we've just seen from Shuttle is one of them. ah, an 8patch "limit" makes a lot of sense, still, the increased income should induce a lot of variation to existing builds or accelerations - like on a normal map u definitely can't add 2 extra proxy gates without tipping your hand heavily, Shuttle could bait with ranged research and fast XP while doing all that...certainly a byproduct. Looks very interesting, potentially balance breaking too but I am curious how it develops in the pro scene. Thanks for the explanation! | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:16 c3rberUs wrote: It's a tradition, just like balance whine. Is there any stated reason why ro24 doesn't at least have ro16 format? If for no other reason than 5 games, most of which cheese, does not make for a great tournament day. | ||
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TMNT
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You know, Mini is the type of guy who would build 6 DTs and go batshit crazy in a Bo1 PvT. "You will not beat Rush in a normal game bro, you have to do this" | ||
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TMNT
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On August 17 2026 20:28 c3rberUs wrote: Do pros build forges inward to better protect them from hydra busts? Of course, it's the new sim city fashion in PvZ. | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:30 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: i missed out on rush vs shuttle and howtf did shuttle win DT rush | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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bisu would really have to fuck things up. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 20:32 gravity wrote: Think Bisu won't get busted, he had enough scouting and got enough cannons up bisu can still scare players with one dt | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:30 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: i missed out on rush vs shuttle and howtf did shuttle win invisible men! many of them | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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do hope he shows up in future ASLs tho, dude's got potential | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:37 RowdierBob wrote: Hm played well for the first 10 there. But just couldn’t match Bisu’s multitask as the pressure ramped up. could dish it out a litte but couldn't take a hit | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + winners match + Show Spoiler + | ||
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TMNT
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On August 17 2026 20:47 RowdierBob wrote: Shitagon. Bisu is screwed 910 can't be claiming that the map pool is helping Protoss when the decider game is played on a 63/37 map for Terran. | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:47 RowdierBob wrote: Shitagon. Bisu is screwed more like shitimgone | ||
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bisu is falling behind | ||
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On August 17 2026 20:49 TMNT wrote: 910 can't be claiming that the map pool is helping Protoss when the decider game is played on a 63/37 map for Terran. I love to meme on protoss in general but in all seriousness he and the map selection team have been fucking over protoss for far too long now. | ||
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Poll: Recommend Final Game? No (5) If you have time (1) Yes (0) 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Game? | ||
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But Legend of the Fall is carried on by Shuttle-God | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 21:03 gravity wrote: more like legend on the fallen, am I right I trust snow and mini more. hell I'd trust best over bisu. | ||
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On August 17 2026 21:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: I trust snow and mini more. hell I'd trust best over bisu. Yeah Mini vs 3 Zergs should be a fun group, and Snow is always a chance. | ||
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On August 12 2026 01:21 TMNT wrote: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/6WU5OV9.png) Saw Bisu losing to Rush coming from a mile away with Octagon being the map. | ||
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RowdierBob
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Just a dull map. | ||
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gravity
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On August 17 2026 21:05 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Saw Bisu losing to Rush coming from a mile away with Octagon being the map. Matchup-specific maps when | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2026 21:06 RowdierBob wrote: I norm loathe a balance whinge but that map really is terrible for PvT. You’ve basically got one ridge/defensive point to stop a Terran push and if you don’t it’s over. Once Bisu lost his third the first time it was over. Just a dull map. I'm ok with it as long as we can be constructive or at least have some nuance about something that everyone agrees is clearly not working here. and even then a protoss player did advance 1st in the group. | ||
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On August 17 2026 21:00 gravity wrote: Not like I know much but I feel like it would have been better to try to go for a big mid-map flank when Rush moved out rather than go for drops The double Shuttle drop is timed when Rush is taking his 3rd, which in general is strategically correct, because at that time Terran is moving his army out there to protect the 3rd. For a while, that double drop timing managed to deal major damage to Terrans and they struggled with it. But like they always do, Terran players have adapted to it - just like how they had adapted to defend recall to the point that Arbiter build has now become extinct at the top level. And you can see in the game how Rush defended that so well with just mines, sim city a one siege tank. The way this game opens, Rush wins the build order lottery: forward Gate pressure is met with cross spawn, then 3 Fac timing is not met with either DT or fast Reaver. So he gets ahead and from that point onward, all Terran has to do is playing a solid macro game. From Protoss point of view, if you're not Snow, there's not many options to come back. That double drop is essentially the only way for a player of Bisu level (you can't contest Terran's army head-on, you can't delay the Terran's march with Reavers like Snow, your only option is a hit-and-hope drop). The mid map flank wouldn't work because as you saw in the game, Zealot leg hasn't even finished by the time the Tanks are parking on that ridge, and the supply diffenrential isn't enough anyway for Protoss to win a big fight. | ||
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On August 17 2026 19:38 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: Poll: bisu: bucket or no bucket? bucket (6) no bucket (3) 9 total votes Your vote: bisu: bucket or no bucket? GET THE BUCKET OUT | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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we dont need that. we actually have perfectly balanced maps available based on the data. Apocalypse. Neo Dark Origin. Retro. Radeon. Eclipse. | ||
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On August 17 2026 21:27 RowdierBob wrote: I know i called it but still sad. | ||
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