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Poll: Recommend hero vs YSC?

No (11)
 
85%

Yes (2)
 
15%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend hero vs YSC?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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67%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

No (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

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(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time


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78%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 02:45 GMT
#1

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aingel
Profile Joined February 2024
7 Posts
March 25 2026 04:01 GMT
#2
Just curious why is eonzerg and nyoken listed under casters and hosts? (And why aren't saiyan and xun listed instead)?
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2105 Posts
March 25 2026 07:36 GMT
#3
YSC ran a Zerg gauntlet to qualify. Can he do it again?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13331 Posts
March 25 2026 09:51 GMT
#4
Gonna be a bad night for YSC.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 10:12 GMT
#5
at least one zerg will get through
Yuru Yuri best anime
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
March 25 2026 10:13 GMT
#6
On March 25 2026 18:51 RowdierBob wrote:
Gonna be a bad night for YSC.

YSC has been beasting in ZvP the past two months. Not saying he will win, but this is statistically his group to thrive in. Still I think it will likely be Larva and HerO.
JDON MY SOUL!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2007 Posts
March 25 2026 10:13 GMT
#7
On March 25 2026 19:12 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
at least one zerg will get through

Bold prediction, but it just might happen.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 10:15 GMT
#8
>teolbo
>sexy boy theme

hmm
Yuru Yuri best anime
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 10:16 GMT
#9
lmao at herO vs huro winrate stats comparion in zvp (ASL record)
64% vs 0%
Drone is a way of living
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
March 25 2026 10:20 GMT
#10
its been a while since I last watched anything on afreeca/soop. Should I be able to watch this without VPN and account?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 10:21 GMT
#11
On March 25 2026 19:20 Grettin wrote:
its been a while since I last watched anything on afreeca/soop. Should I be able to watch this without VPN and account?

works for me just fine!
Drone is a way of living
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
March 25 2026 10:24 GMT
#12
Gotcha. Just infinite loading on my end. Tried all browsers, incognito, ublock off etc. Also from Europe.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22162 Posts
March 25 2026 10:26 GMT
#13
Tuned in just in time to watch another Protoss die to a hydra bust.
here we go again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2007 Posts
March 25 2026 10:27 GMT
#14
Was only half paying attention but seemed like a modal ZvP
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 10:27 GMT
#15
wow
tulbo saw hydras in the mid
and instead of instantly spending his banked 600 minerals on 4 extra photon cannons, he decided to fight with his corsairs and waste time before finally going for cannons when it was too late
Drone is a way of living
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia427 Posts
March 25 2026 10:28 GMT
#16
Oh look another hydra bust
j.r.r.
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
638 Posts
March 25 2026 10:32 GMT
#17
this one hydra bust build is like half of all zvp games and protosses die to it all the time
(*^^)(^*)
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 10:34 GMT
#18
that was one of the most standard 5hatch hydra builds of all time
Complete the cycle!
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
638 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-25 10:35:43
March 25 2026 10:34 GMT
#19
On March 25 2026 19:32 Kraekkling wrote:
this one hydra bust build is like half of all zvp games and protosses die to it all the time


doesn't make any sense from a metagame perspective

if protosses just started to blind counter this shit they'd get wildly positive expectation value out of it
(*^^)(^*)
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 10:35 GMT
#20
finally zvz my favorite matchup
Yuru Yuri best anime
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22162 Posts
March 25 2026 10:41 GMT
#21
On March 25 2026 19:34 Kraekkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 19:32 Kraekkling wrote:
this one hydra bust build is like half of all zvp games and protosses die to it all the time


doesn't make any sense from a metagame perspective

if protosses just started to blind counter this shit they'd get wildly positive expectation value out of it
No, because the zerg just drones if they see your spending 1k minerals on cannons.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-25 10:45:36
March 25 2026 10:45 GMT
#22
rip larva

good old bag of builds zerg strikes again
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 10:56 GMT
#23
Poll: Recommend hero vs YSC?

No (11)
 
85%

Yes (2)
 
15%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend hero vs YSC?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Larva vs Shine?

Yes (6)
 
67%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

No (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Larva vs Shine?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 10:57 GMT
#24
damn 9hatch, thats a ZvZ build i haven't seen in a loong time
Complete the cycle!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 10:57 GMT
#25
wow some people still own wemade gear.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
638 Posts
March 25 2026 10:58 GMT
#26
On March 25 2026 19:41 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 19:34 Kraekkling wrote:
On March 25 2026 19:32 Kraekkling wrote:
this one hydra bust build is like half of all zvp games and protosses die to it all the time


doesn't make any sense from a metagame perspective

if protosses just started to blind counter this shit they'd get wildly positive expectation value out of it
No, because the zerg just drones if they see your spending 1k minerals on cannons.


ur right its better to just die to hydra every second game instead
(*^^)(^*)
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 11:01 GMT
#27
attacking the sunken was a mistake though, he should have kept zerglings alive to protect his offensive sunkens
Drone is a way of living
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 11:01 GMT
#28
Interesting that Shine chose allin instead of evo chamber play, I don't agree with that decision but what do I know
Complete the cycle!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 11:02 GMT
#29
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 11:04 GMT
#30
this hero is different from sc2 hero right
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 11:06 GMT
#31
On March 25 2026 20:04 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
this hero is different from sc2 hero right


yes
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 11:07 GMT
#32
The times I have seen 2 hatch fail vs 1 lair... Shine at least had the right idea, just slow execution and subpar ling battles.
FBH #1!
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 11:24 GMT
#33
that was the most random and weakest dt drop ever
no distraction
no prior scouting with corsair
just send it and die
Drone is a way of living
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2007 Posts
March 25 2026 11:26 GMT
#34
Tulbo doing better than expected
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 11:26 GMT
#35
teolbo on point with those storms
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 11:30 GMT
#36
If you take that position at least have 1-2 goons attacking that hatch all the time
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 11:31 GMT
#37
that's 3 ex asl champions eliminated on round 1

wtf
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 11:31 GMT
#38
RIP larva
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2007 Posts
March 25 2026 11:31 GMT
#39
Thought Tulbo was done when he lost several Templars for nothing in his first attack but he came back strongly with good storms.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 11:31 GMT
#40
Another medalist eliminated. Let's go~
FBH #1!
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 11:31 GMT
#41
ok jinjin's video with pros' reaction to this game is going to be hilarious to watch im sure
Drone is a way of living
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 11:31 GMT
#42
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

Yes (13)
 
76%

No (3)
 
18%

If you have time (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 11:32 GMT
#43
BIG daddy vs big daddy coming up next.
FBH #1!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5107 Posts
March 25 2026 11:34 GMT
#44
Why doesn't Larva have any matchup statistics on liquipedia?
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1689 Posts
March 25 2026 11:37 GMT
#45
Loser game on Jane Doe. Kind of tough for zergs.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 11:50 GMT
#46
nice hatch placement lol
Complete the cycle!
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
March 25 2026 11:51 GMT
#47
it is clear to see tulbo had it easier to prepare playing only PvZ
EX CATHEDRA!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2007 Posts
March 25 2026 11:51 GMT
#48
Nice storm on the scourge, plus 3 stuck drones must be costly
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 11:52 GMT
#49
I still think Shine has the advantage here depending on how fast Lurkers / Hive tech kicks in, but his macro is insane atm
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 11:54 GMT
#50
Ok nvm, not anymore after that engagement, that was really bad
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4861 Posts
March 25 2026 11:56 GMT
#51
Turbo's game to lose now, Shine can only hope to win if he can expand / tech switch but I don't think he'll get the opportunity
Complete the cycle!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13331 Posts
March 25 2026 11:57 GMT
#52
Hopefully ysc can bring this home.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 11:57 GMT
#53
shine keeps getting supply blocked smfh
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2007 Posts
March 25 2026 11:59 GMT
#54
Nice to have another P in the next round.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4057 Posts
March 25 2026 11:59 GMT
#55
ok tulbo I owe you an apology. I wasn't really familiar with your game
Drone is a way of living
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines450 Posts
March 25 2026 11:59 GMT
#56
damn teolbo finally made it to round 2
Yuru Yuri best anime
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
67 Posts
March 25 2026 12:00 GMT
#57
gj julytoss
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
March 25 2026 12:00 GMT
#58
The Bandit King gives, the Bandit King takes!
JDON MY SOUL!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50692 Posts
March 25 2026 12:00 GMT
#59
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (15)
 
88%

No (1)
 
6%

If you have time (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13331 Posts
March 25 2026 12:00 GMT
#60
Surely ysc can’t lose from here. He can almost a move and win
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13331 Posts
March 25 2026 12:02 GMT
#61
On March 25 2026 18:51 RowdierBob wrote:
Gonna be a bad night for YSC.

Gg.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
March 25 2026 12:02 GMT
#62
legend of the spring
EX CATHEDRA!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey769 Posts
March 25 2026 12:02 GMT
#63
Protoss Fighting!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
March 25 2026 12:04 GMT
#64
On March 25 2026 21:02 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 18:51 RowdierBob wrote:
Gonna be a bad night for YSC.

Gg.



Even I didnt think he would despite PvZ being his best MU since January.
JDON MY SOUL!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2105 Posts
March 25 2026 12:04 GMT
#65
YSC?
Why not...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2105 Posts
March 25 2026 12:05 GMT
#66
Well... that was quick.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5107 Posts
March 25 2026 12:05 GMT
#67
On March 25 2026 20:51 DracoVolantus wrote:
it is clear to see tulbo had it easier to prepare playing only PvZ

Still a 43% WR PvZ player taking down a 61% ZvP player. Impressive stuff
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 12:05 GMT
#68
Nice result. The players in best shape won.
FBH #1!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
March 25 2026 12:40 GMT
#69
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-25 12:53:36
March 25 2026 12:53 GMT
#70
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...
JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3127 Posts
March 25 2026 13:14 GMT
#71
A lot of these players may actually have low self esteem, or to put it more precise, not a big ego. Like Shuttle, YSC,... they don't mind being the butt of the joke. But that's not for commentators to say, and definitely has nothing to do with their physiques.

Anyway I think YSC vs Shine is always a 50/50 so not surprising. But YSC > Larva probably has something to do with the help of the map. No more Hydra bust threat + not even having to put more than 1 cannon at your entrance are huge advantage for P in the early game.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4244 Posts
March 25 2026 13:55 GMT
#72
Quite satisfying results Very glad to see.

GGs WP
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
March 25 2026 14:17 GMT
#73
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland596 Posts
March 25 2026 14:17 GMT
#74
Tulbo having to prepare only for zvp today might have helped too.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
March 25 2026 14:21 GMT
#75
I’m happy for him, he seems to work reaaaally hard these days
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Postalpj
Profile Joined March 2026
5 Posts
March 25 2026 14:28 GMT
#76
On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.


That’s rough to hear. I stopped watching them because it’s two Zerg players always saying how weak Zerg is and how the Zerg player is in trouble even when winning.

Hearing that he also sucks the Cheeto dingus means I made the right choice.
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
67 Posts
March 25 2026 14:58 GMT
#77
Remind me again why Tastosis are not doing the livestream?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 15:01 GMT
#78
The never ending posts about English casts lol.
Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live.

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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5278 Posts
March 25 2026 15:02 GMT
#79
On March 25 2026 23:58 doktordingerdonger wrote:
Remind me again why Tastosis are not doing the livestream?

10k Patreon onegalol
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-25 15:20:53
March 25 2026 15:20 GMT
#80
Storm is a good skill tul have.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
March 25 2026 15:20 GMT
#81
On March 26 2026 00:01 Peeano wrote:
The never ending posts about English casts lol.
Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live.

Watched it in Spanish yesterday, i kind of enjoyed it.

What’s your objection to Artosis as a commentator? I can’t stand his stream, but i find his casts quite insightful; he seems to know what he is talking about?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1451 Posts
March 25 2026 15:25 GMT
#82
Artosis should be allowed to do the commentary on his Twitch-stream. At least when the matchup is PvP.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10347 Posts
March 25 2026 16:10 GMT
#83
easiest prediction of my life
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
March 25 2026 16:41 GMT
#84
On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.


I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism.
JDON MY SOUL!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6818 Posts
March 25 2026 16:49 GMT
#85
Jesus man .. i dont know YSC but i never got from him a low self esteem vibe. Specially for being overweight. In fact i think he look kinda badass like a freaking Yakuza lol. But i dont know him at all so i cant really tell. Like i know those casters dont know him either. So is pretty dumb to tell some stuff like that.
townhouse
Profile Joined June 2018
United States28 Posts
March 25 2026 17:22 GMT
#86
agreed that it was in extremely poor taste. i'm also not sure if YSC was actually crying vs getting watery eyes from staring unblinkingly at the screen for 15+ minutes. back when i laddered it would happen to me during longer games. and also during other intense games like nightreign which required a lot of reading. also why i had to stop laddering & nightreigning haha
"We're here on Earth to fart around" - Vonnegut
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
114 Posts
March 25 2026 17:43 GMT
#87
anyone got a clue why Shine was floating 1K minerals almost the entire game 5, and at some point actually over 2.2K................ we saving up for next ASL or something?!
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
March 25 2026 20:36 GMT
#88
On March 26 2026 02:43 nikolaus8844 wrote:
anyone got a clue why Shine was floating 1K minerals almost the entire game 5, and at some point actually over 2.2K................ we saving up for next ASL or something?!

Perhaps he required additional larva?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7838 Posts
March 25 2026 20:50 GMT
#89
No results in the OP
PachiBW
Profile Joined October 2021
10 Posts
March 25 2026 21:07 GMT
#90
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.


Wasn't it just Xun talking about it, but yeah, it was certainly presumptuous unless he has some inside scoop lol.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3127 Posts
March 25 2026 21:21 GMT
#91
Think this is it for underdogs getting into Ro16. No way Calm, Piano or Leta makes it out of the remaining groups.

Can already see Soma picking YSC, Snow picking Ample, Bisu picking sSak in the next round. Not sure who Barracks will pick (he's sort of an underdog himself), maybe one of Rain/Sharp/Queen (if he qualifies).
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
March 26 2026 00:51 GMT
#92
On March 26 2026 06:21 TMNT wrote:
Think this is it for underdogs getting into Ro16. No way Calm, Piano or Leta makes it out of the remaining groups.

Can already see Soma picking YSC, Snow picking Ample, Bisu picking sSak in the next round. Not sure who Barracks will pick (he's sort of an underdog himself), maybe one of Rain/Sharp/Queen (if he qualifies).

I actually dont think Bisu will pick sSak. sSak is in particularly good shape and I think he will go as 2nd (5-8th) pick.
JDON MY SOUL!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2105 Posts
March 26 2026 02:35 GMT
#93
On March 26 2026 02:43 nikolaus8844 wrote:
anyone got a clue why Shine was floating 1K minerals almost the entire game 5, and at some point actually over 2.2K................ we saving up for next ASL or something?!

He lost a bunch of badly positioned overlords, because YSC was good with his corsairs.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13331 Posts
March 26 2026 03:11 GMT
#94
On March 26 2026 09:51 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 06:21 TMNT wrote:
Think this is it for underdogs getting into Ro16. No way Calm, Piano or Leta makes it out of the remaining groups.

Can already see Soma picking YSC, Snow picking Ample, Bisu picking sSak in the next round. Not sure who Barracks will pick (he's sort of an underdog himself), maybe one of Rain/Sharp/Queen (if he qualifies).

I actually dont think Bisu will pick sSak. sSak is in particularly good shape and I think he will go as 2nd (5-8th) pick.

Yeah wouldn’t surprise me if Bisu would prefer playing Zergs over Terrans on these maps.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
67 Posts
23 hours ago
#95
On March 26 2026 00:01 Peeano wrote:
The never ending posts about English casts lol.
Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live.



The real meta these days is to watch the japanese cast. Much more chill than the 24/7 screaming of the korean one
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2105 Posts
23 hours ago
#96
On March 26 2026 13:28 doktordingerdonger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 00:01 Peeano wrote:
The never ending posts about English casts lol.
Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live.



The real meta these days is to watch the japanese cast. Much more chill than the 24/7 screaming of the korean one

Haha, who's doing that?
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
20 hours ago
#97
On March 26 2026 01:41 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.


I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism.

I mean they are free to do anything, it’s their house. That being said, if you are trying to build a community over an old video game, ranting about politics in the middle of your casts is unbelievably stupid.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
17 hours ago
#98
On March 26 2026 16:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 01:41 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.


I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism.

I mean they are free to do anything, it’s their house. That being said, if you are trying to build a community over an old video game, ranting about politics in the middle of your casts is unbelievably stupid.


These days the formula is to either double down and become an echo chamber for political views, or to avoid anything politics. Middle of the road approaches generally don't work well.
JDON MY SOUL!
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines610 Posts
17 hours ago
#99
On March 26 2026 13:28 doktordingerdonger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 00:01 Peeano wrote:
The never ending posts about English casts lol.
Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live.



The real meta these days is to watch the japanese cast. Much more chill than the 24/7 screaming of the korean one


Holy shit, i thought you were trolling but i actually found one
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
13 hours ago
#100
On March 26 2026 19:26 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 16:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 26 2026 01:41 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.


I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism.

I mean they are free to do anything, it’s their house. That being said, if you are trying to build a community over an old video game, ranting about politics in the middle of your casts is unbelievably stupid.


These days the formula is to either double down and become an echo chamber for political views, or to avoid anything politics. Middle of the road approaches generally don't work well.

I don’t see a world in which talking about your political views in your videos is a good idea if you want to make it as a professional StarCraft 1 commentator. Just makes no sense.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
12 hours ago
#101
On March 26 2026 23:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2026 19:26 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 26 2026 16:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 26 2026 01:41 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary.

YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough.

wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem...

I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk.

I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world.


I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism.

I mean they are free to do anything, it’s their house. That being said, if you are trying to build a community over an old video game, ranting about politics in the middle of your casts is unbelievably stupid.


These days the formula is to either double down and become an echo chamber for political views, or to avoid anything politics. Middle of the road approaches generally don't work well.

I don’t see a world in which talking about your political views in your videos is a good idea if you want to make it as a professional StarCraft 1 commentator. Just makes no sense.


Oh there is definitely a world, but in that world you got to double down on appealing to folks with the same political views and draw them into your little chamber. Become a pro commentator with your own platform and not using someone else's.
JDON MY SOUL!
shafirudd
Profile Joined June 2019
United States25 Posts
11 hours ago
#102
Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19318 Posts
10 hours ago
#103
On March 27 2026 01:29 shafirudd wrote:
Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting

SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-26 18:19:57
10 hours ago
#104
I like Artosis. I think he brings to life small nuances that make the game much more enjoyable to watch. He knows and points out variations in trends, what details makes what difference. That’s exactly what you need from a caster, give you an insight into what is going on that you can’t see and don’t comprehend because you don’t have the expertise.

I never feel i understand the game better watching Sayian. But i mean to each their own. What i don’t want is idiotic speculations about someone being supposedly inconfident because they are overweight or having to hear right wing conspiracy theories when i am watching Royal and Snow play each other. It’s also nice when i am being informed i am watching series that are 8 months old while they are presented like they happened this week. That’s not a very high bar to ask for.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
shafirudd
Profile Joined June 2019
United States25 Posts
10 hours ago
#105
On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2026 01:29 shafirudd wrote:
Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting

SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well.


They're overall fine, fan of Saiyan specifically, love his approach - i think sometimes things stick out, this YSC Fat stuff being an example, i think overharping on Minis mental waknesses/commentary on his mental strength because he makes faces sometimes sticks out to me. I may just be spoiled from Artosis/Tasteless/Nyoken/Gypsy live casting ASL in the past - Diggity is great too, don't think hes live casted ASL though, wish he would
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1185 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-27 02:04:12
9 hours ago
#106
On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2026 01:29 shafirudd wrote:
Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting

SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well.

I think Xun tries to build hype too much with speculative statements I due to my connections with pros and a lot of behind the scene knowledge know is wrong. I think less speculative hype building and more in depth analysis is a way to improve.
JDON MY SOUL!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19318 Posts
3 hours ago
#107
On March 27 2026 03:21 shafirudd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 27 2026 01:29 shafirudd wrote:
Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting

SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well.


They're overall fine, fan of Saiyan specifically, love his approach - i think sometimes things stick out, this YSC Fat stuff being an example, i think overharping on Minis mental waknesses/commentary on his mental strength because he makes faces sometimes sticks out to me. I may just be spoiled from Artosis/Tasteless/Nyoken/Gypsy live casting ASL in the past - Diggity is great too, don't think hes live casted ASL though, wish he would

Thanks for the reply. I think thats quality feedback for these guys. Like you said, overall they are fine, but its good they can think about what you guys dislike/enjoy and try to improve on that.
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