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BLinD-RawR
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On March 25 2026 18:51 RowdierBob wrote: Gonna be a bad night for YSC. YSC has been beasting in ZvP the past two months. Not saying he will win, but this is statistically his group to thrive in. Still I think it will likely be Larva and HerO. | ||
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gravity
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On March 25 2026 19:12 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: at least one zerg will get through Bold prediction, but it just might happen. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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>sexy boy theme hmm | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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64% vs 0% | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On March 25 2026 19:20 Grettin wrote: its been a while since I last watched anything on afreeca/soop. Should I be able to watch this without VPN and account? works for me just fine! | ||
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Gorsameth
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here we go again. | ||
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gravity
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fLyiNgDroNe
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tulbo saw hydras in the mid and instead of instantly spending his banked 600 minerals on 4 extra photon cannons, he decided to fight with his corsairs and waste time before finally going for cannons when it was too late | ||
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Kraekkling
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On March 25 2026 19:32 Kraekkling wrote: this one hydra bust build is like half of all zvp games and protosses die to it all the time doesn't make any sense from a metagame perspective if protosses just started to blind counter this shit they'd get wildly positive expectation value out of it | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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Gorsameth
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On March 25 2026 19:34 Kraekkling wrote: No, because the zerg just drones if they see your spending 1k minerals on cannons.doesn't make any sense from a metagame perspective if protosses just started to blind counter this shit they'd get wildly positive expectation value out of it | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines633 Posts
good old bag of builds zerg strikes again | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend hero vs YSC? No (13) Yes (2) If you have time (0) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend hero vs YSC? | ||
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Naib
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Kraekkling
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On March 25 2026 19:41 Gorsameth wrote: No, because the zerg just drones if they see your spending 1k minerals on cannons. ur right its better to just die to hydra every second game instead | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 25 2026 20:04 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: this hero is different from sc2 hero right yes | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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no distraction no prior scouting with corsair just send it and die | ||
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wtf | ||
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doktordingerdonger
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend Final Game? Yes (20) No (1) If you have time (1) 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Game? | ||
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RowdierBob
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RowdierBob
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On March 25 2026 18:51 RowdierBob wrote: Gonna be a bad night for YSC. Gg. | ||
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DracoVolantus
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HOLYBATS
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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Even I didnt think he would despite PvZ being his best MU since January. | ||
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Simplistik
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Why not... | ||
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a-game
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On March 25 2026 20:51 DracoVolantus wrote: it is clear to see tulbo had it easier to prepare playing only PvZ Still a 43% WR PvZ player taking down a 61% ZvP player. Impressive stuff | ||
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Peeano
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Biff The Understudy
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YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote: Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary. YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough. wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem... | ||
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TMNT
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Anyway I think YSC vs Shine is always a 50/50 so not surprising. But YSC > Larva probably has something to do with the help of the map. No more Hydra bust threat + not even having to put more than 1 cannon at your entrance are huge advantage for P in the early game. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
 Very glad to see.GGs WP | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8098 Posts
On March 25 2026 21:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: wait they really went there? that is a bit out of order.... They are there to commentate games, not to critique physiques and self-esteem... I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk. I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world. | ||
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Bonyth
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Biff The Understudy
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Postalpj
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On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk. I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world. That’s rough to hear. I stopped watching them because it’s two Zerg players always saying how weak Zerg is and how the Zerg player is in trouble even when winning. Hearing that he also sucks the Cheeto dingus means I made the right choice. | ||
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doktordingerdonger
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Peeano
Netherlands5630 Posts
Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands5630 Posts
On March 25 2026 23:58 doktordingerdonger wrote: Remind me again why Tastosis are not doing the livestream? 10k Patreon onegalol | ||
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Highgamer
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Biff The Understudy
France8098 Posts
On March 26 2026 00:01 Peeano wrote: The never ending posts about English casts lol. Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live. Watched it in Spanish yesterday, i kind of enjoyed it. What’s your objection to Artosis as a commentator? I can’t stand his stream, but i find his casts quite insightful; he seems to know what he is talking about? | ||
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Highgamer
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FlaShFTW
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On March 25 2026 23:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: I mean, last time i went on Sayian “proleague watchparty” - which is just nicking the stream of pros with no authorization - he was talking about how his dad had Trump Derangemrnt Syndrom, how there are too many immigrants and how central banks are a scam. That was a week after they started a stream with a homage to Charlie Kirk. I don’t think they mean badly, but it’s painful to listen to this junk. This stuff is so amateurish, they have no business being the official commentators of the biggest tournament in the world. I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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townhouse
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nikolaus8844
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Just_a_Moth
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On March 26 2026 02:43 nikolaus8844 wrote: anyone got a clue why Shine was floating 1K minerals almost the entire game 5, and at some point actually over 2.2K................ we saving up for next ASL or something?! Perhaps he required additional larva? | ||
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PachiBW
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On March 25 2026 21:40 Biff The Understudy wrote: Sayian and Xun talking about how YSC must have low self esteem because he is overweight was something else. Those two are so dense, I just wish Artosis and Tasteless were making the commentary. YSC played so well. Bit disappointed for Larva though that was rough. Wasn't it just Xun talking about it, but yeah, it was certainly presumptuous unless he has some inside scoop lol. | ||
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TMNT
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Can already see Soma picking YSC, Snow picking Ample, Bisu picking sSak in the next round. Not sure who Barracks will pick (he's sort of an underdog himself), maybe one of Rain/Sharp/Queen (if he qualifies). | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On March 26 2026 06:21 TMNT wrote: Think this is it for underdogs getting into Ro16. No way Calm, Piano or Leta makes it out of the remaining groups. Can already see Soma picking YSC, Snow picking Ample, Bisu picking sSak in the next round. Not sure who Barracks will pick (he's sort of an underdog himself), maybe one of Rain/Sharp/Queen (if he qualifies). I actually dont think Bisu will pick sSak. sSak is in particularly good shape and I think he will go as 2nd (5-8th) pick. | ||
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Simplistik
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On March 26 2026 02:43 nikolaus8844 wrote: anyone got a clue why Shine was floating 1K minerals almost the entire game 5, and at some point actually over 2.2K................ we saving up for next ASL or something?! He lost a bunch of badly positioned overlords, because YSC was good with his corsairs. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13425 Posts
On March 26 2026 09:51 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: I actually dont think Bisu will pick sSak. sSak is in particularly good shape and I think he will go as 2nd (5-8th) pick. Yeah wouldn’t surprise me if Bisu would prefer playing Zergs over Terrans on these maps. | ||
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doktordingerdonger
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On March 26 2026 00:01 Peeano wrote: The never ending posts about English casts lol. Just watch Korean already. Neither English stream is good if you understand the game well enough (or wish to understand it better) and one of them isn't even live. The real meta these days is to watch the japanese cast. Much more chill than the 24/7 screaming of the korean one | ||
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Simplistik
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On March 26 2026 13:28 doktordingerdonger wrote: The real meta these days is to watch the japanese cast. Much more chill than the 24/7 screaming of the korean one Haha, who's doing that? | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8098 Posts
On March 26 2026 01:41 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: I think they are free to have whatever political opinion they want without it affecting their ability to cast the ASL. I often engage with them on their political opinions on their streams, but I don't agree with many of their political opinions, and I agree with some opinions. I think is great to have differing political opinions and still be respectful towards one another despite the differences. Gives us the possibility to come to a closer understand of differing views without any need for antagonism. I mean they are free to do anything, it’s their house. That being said, if you are trying to build a community over an old video game, ranting about politics in the middle of your casts is unbelievably stupid. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1261 Posts
On March 26 2026 16:46 Biff The Understudy wrote: I mean they are free to do anything, it’s their house. That being said, if you are trying to build a community over an old video game, ranting about politics in the middle of your casts is unbelievably stupid. These days the formula is to either double down and become an echo chamber for political views, or to avoid anything politics. Middle of the road approaches generally don't work well. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines716 Posts
On March 26 2026 13:28 doktordingerdonger wrote: The real meta these days is to watch the japanese cast. Much more chill than the 24/7 screaming of the korean one Holy shit, i thought you were trolling but i actually found one | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8098 Posts
On March 26 2026 19:26 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: These days the formula is to either double down and become an echo chamber for political views, or to avoid anything politics. Middle of the road approaches generally don't work well. I don’t see a world in which talking about your political views in your videos is a good idea if you want to make it as a professional StarCraft 1 commentator. Just makes no sense. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1261 Posts
On March 26 2026 23:56 Biff The Understudy wrote: I don’t see a world in which talking about your political views in your videos is a good idea if you want to make it as a professional StarCraft 1 commentator. Just makes no sense. Oh there is definitely a world, but in that world you got to double down on appealing to folks with the same political views and draw them into your little chamber. Become a pro commentator with your own platform and not using someone else's. | ||
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shafirudd
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BisuDagger
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On March 27 2026 01:29 shafirudd wrote: Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8098 Posts
I never feel i understand the game better watching Sayian. But i mean to each their own. What i don’t want is idiotic speculations about someone being supposedly inconfident because they are overweight or having to hear right wing conspiracy theories when i am watching Royal and Snow play each other. It’s also nice when i am being informed i am watching series that are 8 months old while they are presented like they happened this week. That’s not a very high bar to ask for. | ||
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shafirudd
United States25 Posts
On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote: SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well. They're overall fine, fan of Saiyan specifically, love his approach - i think sometimes things stick out, this YSC Fat stuff being an example, i think overharping on Minis mental waknesses/commentary on his mental strength because he makes faces sometimes sticks out to me. I may just be spoiled from Artosis/Tasteless/Nyoken/Gypsy live casting ASL in the past - Diggity is great too, don't think hes live casted ASL though, wish he would | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1261 Posts
On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote: SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well. I think Xun tries to build hype too much with speculative statements I due to my connections with pros and a lot of behind the scene knowledge know is wrong. I think less speculative hype building and more in depth analysis is a way to improve. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On March 27 2026 03:21 shafirudd wrote: They're overall fine, fan of Saiyan specifically, love his approach - i think sometimes things stick out, this YSC Fat stuff being an example, i think overharping on Minis mental waknesses/commentary on his mental strength because he makes faces sometimes sticks out to me. I may just be spoiled from Artosis/Tasteless/Nyoken/Gypsy live casting ASL in the past - Diggity is great too, don't think hes live casted ASL though, wish he would Thanks for the reply. I think thats quality feedback for these guys. Like you said, overall they are fine, but its good they can think about what you guys dislike/enjoy and try to improve on that. | ||
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iopq
United States1102 Posts
On March 25 2026 19:16 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: lmao at herO vs huro winrate stats comparion in zvp (ASL record) 64% vs 0% Sample size | ||
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iopq
United States1102 Posts
On March 25 2026 19:34 Naib wrote: that was one of the most standard 5hatch hydra builds of all time it's quite a modern one, he got den before his fifth hatchery, going for a much faster timing than the "classic" 5 hatch hydra | ||
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Postalpj
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On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote: SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well. Both play z and is very apparent they lack understanding of the other factions. To be fair I haven’t watched them in a minute, but watching them cast a pvz is no good. | ||
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m4ch1n1cd351r3
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Larva played like he had no respect for YSChuttulbeyewater in the losers and Shine totally misread the game and missed his tempo in the final match after getting into a strong position. YSChuttulbeyewater showed good grit but little else. Still, always nice to see someone get rewarded for their perseverance. | ||
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Miragee
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On March 27 2026 03:09 BisuDagger wrote: SaiyanSC and Xun are fantastic. I'm curious what kind of casting would make it better. More yelling and excitement? Because they do a great job focusing on the state of the game and assess the situations really well. There was a time when I liked watching them and thought they were improving but at this point I'm on the verge of going back to korean broadcast. It's just too annoying for me to them hyping up game states that are over or just plainly misstate what is happening. They even admitted to doing at least some of that on purpose... I just don't like be taken a fool for some meaningless hype. Please analyse the game and point out details I don't know or see. Or at least state things correctly. If that's their style, ok. I suppose it's not for me. I just wish I had an alternative because Tastosis, albeit the great chemistry, are not it for me, either. On March 28 2026 22:54 Postalpj wrote: Both play z and is very apparent they lack understanding of the other factions. To be fair I haven’t watched them in a minute, but watching them cast a pvz is no good. To be fair, they are way more fair to cases where other races have a hard time vs zerg than basically all the terran casters... | ||
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Artas1984
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On March 27 2026 01:29 shafirudd wrote: Definitely wish we had better English casting options for live casting Would you prefer Rapid, Wolf or Noregret casting instead of Sayian & Xun? I can not believe anyone would. Sayian and Xun are doing a great job casting together, they often spot details in the game, which Tastosis miss (but vice versa also occurs, so i can not say that one cast is technically better than the other). The best casters ever were Nyoken & Scan - they would sometimes notice such details and aspects of the game, that made Tastosis as well as Sayian/Xun look like amateurs. I love Tastosis most for their charismatic cast - that is the most important thing! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shine: "i did not prepare for Protoss today, only for ZvZ" - i thought Shine was joking, looks like he was not! Larva: "i consider myself to be already in the round of 16" - when you have a personality like Larva, you have to be bold, but if you don't back up your words and loose to inferior player like YSC, your reputation falls. This is probably the worst round of 24 i've ever seen. We are denied Shine's bag of builds in the later rounds and well as Larva's personality. We get YSC instead. Sad. But i do commend him for his last game versus Shine - he looked impressive and deserved to advance to the round of 16. | ||
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goody153
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And it's the same guy who managed to screw his own rush a few ASLs ago rushing the empty base on his own mistake lmao Shinee and Larva didnt play the greatest but hey i'm always excited for underdogs and honestly speaking mistakes happen even on the greatest level of play. On March 29 2026 04:55 Artas1984 wrote: Larva: "i consider myself to be already in the round of 16" - when you have a personality like Larva, you have to be bold, but if you don't back up your words and loose to inferior player like YSC, your reputation falls. The humble act that everybody shows despite most of them probably thinking they are better than most people gets old fast when most of them talk that way. It's fine to have mix of personality like Larva. Being bold as a competitor is a nice touch than being another 95% of the pro population "i hope i will win" class act | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1261 Posts
On March 29 2026 20:42 goody153 wrote: Yo tulbo cooking larva and shinee is so peak. I know he's not like best or mini or snow but you can feel his improvement overtime And it's the same guy who managed to screw his own rush a few ASLs ago rushing the empty base on his own mistake lmao Shinee and Larva didnt play the greatest but hey i'm always excited for underdogs and honestly speaking mistakes happen even on the greatest level of play. The humble act that everybody shows despite most of them probably thinking they are better than most people gets old fast when most of them talk that way. It's fine to have mix of personality like Larva. Being bold as a competitor is a nice touch than being another 95% of the pro population "i hope i will win" class act It was Motive who rushed the empty base. Shinee is not in ASL, Shine is. YSC ruined his own attack vs Light by mismicroing a shuttle reaver into a turret. On Shine's bag of builds: I think Shine's biggest weakness in the present day is his bag of builds, because we are in a time where fundamental standard builds and information gathering/denial are way better than having tricky builds. Shine's got in because he had ZvZ where his style works great, he has amazing ling and muta control. But vs T and P he just lacks fundamentals beside the micro aspect. Seen so many of his games the past half year and I honestly thought he looked too weak to qualify. He did but I wasnt counting on it. | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1420 Posts
complete trash play from both of them. | ||
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m4ch1n1cd351r3
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On March 29 2026 04:55 Artas1984 wrote: Would you prefer Rapid, Wolf or Noregret casting instead of Sayian & Xun? I can not believe anyone would. Sayian and Xun are doing a great job casting together, they often spot details in the game, which Tastosis miss (but vice versa also occurs, so i can not say that one cast is technically better than the other). The best casters ever were Nyoken & Scan - they would sometimes notice such details and aspects of the game, that made Tastosis as well as Sayian/Xun look like amateurs. I love Tastosis most for their charismatic cast - that is the most important thing! +1 on Nyoken/Scan. I sometimes mute casts and listen to music during match streams but during their casts I would always listen, and find myself going long stretches without saying anything aloud about the gamestate because they caught so much of it themselves. Gypsy was also very good. Insightful, and I prefer his brusqueness to Xun's loquacity/propensity for hypecasting personally. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On March 30 2026 04:24 m4ch1n1cd351r3 wrote: +1 on Nyoken/Scan. I sometimes mute casts and listen to music during match streams but during their casts I would always listen, and find myself going long stretches without saying anything aloud about the gamestate because they caught so much of it themselves. Gypsy was also very good. Insightful, and I prefer his brusqueness to Xun's loquacity/propensity for hypecasting personally. I didn't like Gypsy's casting much. He would too much lean into calling something good or bad, but not explain why. Scan has five layers of deeper knowledge than anyone in the Foreign community, and hearing his insights was honestly great, because it goes so much deeper and was most often times actually correct. Sometimes hear explanations from others that don't add up, or aren't correct. But then again, Scan's at the pro-gamer level and played in a bunch of ASL seasons. it is incomparable and perhaps unfair to compare the knowledge gap. | ||
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