EPTTwo Protoss through is good I guess.
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Simplistik
2073 Posts
Two Protoss through is good I guess. | ||
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gravity
Australia1961 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:14 Highgamer wrote: Man, Zealots are strong in TvP, but in ZvP they just look OP in so many situations. Probably it's Bisu's timing and micro magic, too. Bisu Zealots are stronger than others | ||
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gravity
Australia1961 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8709 Posts
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Highgamer
1434 Posts
Yeah, it's about anti-dodging against hydras, Bisu is particularly good at pursuing and targeting the right hydras I think. | ||
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TMNT
2895 Posts
It seems like the benefits from that sneaky 4th base of Larva didn't kick in yet for him though. Bisu probably hit the only timing for him. | ||
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oxKnu
1207 Posts
Bisu just has insane feel for this match-up. Did you notice how he built a cannon in main just as we was going to do an out of position attack on the natural? Knew that that was Larva's only comeback. He just knows, doesn't guess, plays aggressive. Knows the right way to play against Z. I have him favorite against Soma. Although it's still a PvZ and no one is immune to the bullshit in that match-up but if the vast majority of the games are normal his 6-sair/zealot push constant pressure style is a hard counter to the bait and switch Soma dreams about at night. Gonna be a fun series. | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary301 Posts
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Simplistik
2073 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:23 TMNT wrote: Yeah, I can feel the pain of Zergs during that 10-13th min power spike of Protoss when they have that kind of a death ball army and you can't be sure whether they'll hit the natural or the 3rd to put your defence. It seems like the benefits from that sneaky 4th base of Larva didn't kick in yet for him though. Bisu probably hit the only timing for him. I think Bisu didn't know about the 4th until fairly late. He had a zealot looking for a drone going down, but it never came. And the corsair never went that far South. He was probably going to expand and hang back, but when he saw the base he realised that he had to attack. Just taking his mineral only would've left him too far behind. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands979 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:38 Simplistik wrote: I think Bisu didn't know about the 4th until fairly late. He had a zealot looking for a drone going down, but it never came. And the corsair never went that far South. He was probably going to expand and hang back, but when he saw the base he realised that he had to attack. Just taking his mineral only would've left him too far behind. it was great game sense. attack before the 4th really takes full effect | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19276 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands979 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:59 BisuDagger wrote: Bisu continuing to show off his best form in years. It's really amazing how much changing his setup has improved his abilities. The true test lies in SoMa, the currently best performing zerg online and offline. Can Bisu best the best zerg vs protoss of the modern era? | ||
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Kraekkling
467 Posts
I wonder what protoss players feel when they see stuff like this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/PzgDzFn6/123.png) | ||
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TornadoSteve
1079 Posts
vs soma ? I think today's Bisu would win in 6. vs SnOw though ? Multitasking wont save him in a PvsP, even if he bring his A-game, it won't do. SnOw's first title is in soma's hands, me think. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66307 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:23 TMNT wrote: Yeah, I can feel the pain of Zergs during that 10-13th min power spike of Protoss when they have that kind of a death ball army and you can't be sure whether they'll hit the natural or the 3rd to put your defence. It seems like the benefits from that sneaky 4th base of Larva didn't kick in yet for him though. Bisu probably hit the only timing for him. yeah Larva just needed 1 more minute for the eco to fully kick in, Bisu really struck at the perfect timing | ||
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konadora
Singapore66307 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:26 oxKnu wrote: Larva is really out of game shape guys, don't put too much on this series. Bisu though, will be far superior against Soma compared to Best. Bisu just has insane feel for this match-up. Did you notice how he built a cannon in main just as we was going to do an out of position attack on the natural? Knew that that was Larva's only comeback. He just knows, doesn't guess, plays aggressive. Knows the right way to play against Z. I have him favorite against Soma. Although it's still a PvZ and no one is immune to the bullshit in that match-up but if the vast majority of the games are normal his 6-sair/zealot push constant pressure style is a hard counter to the bait and switch Soma dreams about at night. Gonna be a fun series. quote by the korean casters is that "Bisu was born solely to punish Zergs" | ||
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TMNT
2895 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:59 BisuDagger wrote: Bisu continuing to show off his best form in years. It's really amazing how much changing his setup has improved his abilities. Fullscreen Bisu is different. But to be serious, I think fullscreen probably helps him more in PvT which we can't really see this ASL. His PvZ... he's always expected to beat Queen, BTS, and Larva anyway. | ||
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TMNT
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Shinokuki
United States916 Posts
On September 30 2025 21:23 TMNT wrote: Yeah, I can feel the pain of Zergs during that 10-13th min power spike of Protoss when they have that kind of a death ball army and you can't be sure whether they'll hit the natural or the 3rd to put your defence. It seems like the benefits from that sneaky 4th base of Larva didn't kick in yet for him though. Bisu probably hit the only timing for him. This is why zergs are all inning so hard early game to either get ahead or outright kill protoss. It gets really hard for zerg to snowball into solid macro game onwards from 11 min and forward on these maps. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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