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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13087 Posts
September 09 2025 13:49 GMT
#281
Snow and Mini make it and Bifrost and Mercury are coming back into the map pool
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21761 Posts
September 09 2025 13:50 GMT
#282
On September 09 2025 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 22:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 09 2025 22:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On September 09 2025 22:44 SkelA wrote:
Upgrades for Best should win this. No defiler either looks good!


forget no defiler he hasn't even started hive.


Yeah I think BTS is just stuck with a unit composition that isn't effective anymore. Didn't transition into... anything.


yeah going back to my point, he definitely got excited he could end the game earlier and didn't plan to transition out of it.

dude had some legit solid strats and up until then played great, but even in the opening match against best he just didn't have the control in any fight he just happened to be so ahead that it didn't matter.
Exactly. A better player would have closed out that first game way sooner.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1198 Posts
September 09 2025 13:51 GMT
#283
On September 09 2025 22:49 Gorsameth wrote:
BTS's control is just isn't up to the level needed.

You say this but it goes to show if your mid game sense is solid you can almost take out an elite protoss who looked washed up after queen
Flash should fear Sacsri
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
September 09 2025 13:54 GMT
#284
On September 09 2025 22:51 art_of_turtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 22:49 Gorsameth wrote:
BTS's control is just isn't up to the level needed.

You say this but it goes to show if your mid game sense is solid you can almost take out an elite protoss who looked washed up after queen


its almost like....no I don't want to start that debate.

I don't want to encourage it either, this post is not an invitation.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1198 Posts
September 09 2025 13:54 GMT
#285
On September 09 2025 22:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 22:51 art_of_turtle wrote:
On September 09 2025 22:49 Gorsameth wrote:
BTS's control is just isn't up to the level needed.

You say this but it goes to show if your mid game sense is solid you can almost take out an elite protoss who looked washed up after queen


its almost like....no I don't want to start that debate.

I don't want to encourage it either, this post is not an invitation.

I know, I'm meming because I really was pulling for the upset.
Flash should fear Sacsri
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1912 Posts
September 09 2025 13:55 GMT
#286
Good to see Protoss winning especially in a league that could have been dominated by Zerg. Bisu looked the more convincing of the two today but Best has shown he's still got his fire.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13087 Posts
September 09 2025 14:00 GMT
#287
I reckon there might be a decent Jinjijn video coming from this group.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2804 Posts
September 09 2025 14:03 GMT
#288
On September 09 2025 22:48 RowdierBob wrote:
Fark me, BTS’s late game engagements were grim.

The double DA was a master stroke though.

Game on Eclipse last season. BTS vs Best. BTS kept doubling down on Muta strategy even after the DA caught the first two groups. And it worked.

Best probably wouldn't make the 2nd DA if it was another Zerg, but "hey, I'm not falling for your trick again".
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary295 Posts
September 09 2025 14:09 GMT
#289
Crazy couple of you, how do you insult BTS. He played what he have to played (he is not at Bisu, Best's levels ) so in a normal game he has no chance. The whole person trembled after each won. Probably this moment was one if his best in his life. I am happy for Bisu,Best i like both and Queen already won ASLs so he can survived this :D
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3333 Posts
September 09 2025 14:12 GMT
#290
Let's freaking gooooooo
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2042 Posts
September 09 2025 14:28 GMT
#291
Love the results. Best grinding through four elimination games, two from big deficits, was very entertaining.

I've actually been quite impressed with BTS this season, and I think we'll see more of him.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1651 Posts
September 09 2025 14:51 GMT
#292
If SnOw and Mini win their group, there'll be four Protoss in the Ro24, Ro16, and Ro8.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
193 Posts
September 09 2025 14:52 GMT
#293
i wonder what happened to all the "zerg imba" whine that we had for a wihle
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2804 Posts
September 09 2025 14:54 GMT
#294
On September 09 2025 23:51 LightSpectra wrote:
If SnOw and Mini win their group, there'll be four Protoss in the Ro24, Ro16, and Ro8.

Scene when Snow and Mini get out of group C then match Bisu and Best in Ro8.

Even more hilarious if Barracks gets Light and Effort gets Soma in the other quarterfinals.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4833 Posts
September 09 2025 15:02 GMT
#295
On September 09 2025 23:52 Zografa wrote:
i wonder what happened to all the "zerg imba" whine that we had for a wihle


What tends to happen, imo, is some kind of metaphysical human self fulfilling prophecy where overrepresentation leads to worse performance. It's probably something subliminal as in: "ah so many of us, I won't have to work as hard because we're so strong right now". And then they get slammed.
Taxes are for Terrans
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2804 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-09 15:04:36
September 09 2025 15:03 GMT
#296
On September 09 2025 23:52 Zografa wrote:
i wonder what happened to all the "zerg imba" whine that we had for a wihle

*ZvP

The fact that BTS got that close to knocking out Best and Bisu by doing variations of the hydra bust (while showing terrible control in mid and late game) isn't enough evidence for you?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6626 Posts
September 09 2025 15:10 GMT
#297
On September 09 2025 19:50 barcodejester wrote:
like i said good chance we get 0 toss in ro8. Protoss is just not on the level of Z & T in overall faction strength, map balance and player ability. aiur has been the punching bag in BW and it will continue.

Sure
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1651 Posts
September 09 2025 15:16 GMT
#298
On September 09 2025 23:52 Zografa wrote:
i wonder what happened to all the "zerg imba" whine that we had for a wihle


Glad you asked, want to talk about how BeSt is only advancing today because TRUE forgot what micro was?
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands942 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-09 15:43:49
September 09 2025 15:43 GMT
#299
bit sad because usually BTS has good control, but poor oversight and decision making in mid to late transitions. It showed today too. His oversight and decision making was poor, but this time it also lead to poor micro.
JDON MY SOUL!
prion_
Profile Joined September 2022
72 Posts
September 09 2025 16:40 GMT
#300
On September 10 2025 00:03 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 23:52 Zografa wrote:
i wonder what happened to all the "zerg imba" whine that we had for a wihle

*ZvP

The fact that BTS got that close to knocking out Best and Bisu by doing variations of the hydra bust (while showing terrible control in mid and late game) isn't enough evidence for you?


You must admit this is pretty funny. When Zerg wins it's evidence ZvP is Zerg favored. When Protoss wins? It's also evidence ZvP is Zerg favored.
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