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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
December 22 2007 06:00 GMT
#21
yay for mass idle probes an shit
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
December 22 2007 06:01 GMT
#22
Recall an' shit! gosu minefield dodge!
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 22 2007 06:01 GMT
#23
On December 22 2007 14:44 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Did anyone ever figure out what the number of bars above/below each win/loss signifies?

+ Show Spoiler +
One from last round

[image loading]



+ Show Spoiler [yakii's explaination] +

On December 09 2007 09:11 yakii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2007 08:28 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Baezzi: what are those red and blue bars showing before the game? ( @ 0:18 and @ 0:54) It seems that red one is for a win and blue is for a loss against a specific player. But why do they have different number of bars for each win and loss?

i'm not baezzi but oh well.
those bars represent the current play-skill of the players that a particular player has won or lost against
for example bisu would be like 4bars. when like KTF_yellow wud be like 1 or 2.


Is this actually what the bars mean?


[image loading]


On December 09 2007 11:59 yakii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2007 11:07 intotherainx wrote:
are the bars in relation to the player at hand, ie if bisu lost to someone decent but someone bad compared to him, would it be 3 blue bars or say, 1 or 2?


nope, it doesn't compare within the players. It only depends on how his opponent's WP rank (MBCgame's own ranking system) + Show Spoiler [W.P rank] +


WP rank - December Week 1, 2007 (2006.12.3~2007.12.2)

순위 이름 소속 W P
01위 = (P)Bisu P mbcgame 1853.0 (24 Weeks)
02위 = (P)Stork P samsung 1684.0
03위 = (Z)sAviOr Z CJ 1430.5
04위 = (T)Hwasin T STX 1389.5
05위 ↑6 (T)Light T mbcgame 1086.5
06위 ↑3 (P)free P 한빛 1071.5
07위 ↓2 (Z)GGPlay OR (T)JJando_V Z 한빛 1057.0
08위 ↓2 (P)LuCifer OR (T)Flash T KTF 1056.0
09위 ↑3 (Z)Jaedong Z 르까프 1023.0
10위 ↓2 (T)firebathero T samsung 999.0

11위 ↓4 (T)Iris T CJ 977.0
12위 ↓2 (T)Sea T mbcgame 950.0
13위 ↑2 (T)UpMagiC T eSTRO 871.5
14위 ↓1 (T)Mind T 위메이드 844.5
15위 ↓1 (P)Much OR (P)[Oops]Autumn P CJ 797.5
16위 ↑1 (T)iloveoov T SK텔레콤 710.0
17위 ↑3 (T)NaDa T 위메이드 703.0
18위 = (T)DarkElf OR (P)resisa T CJ 701.0
19위 ↓3 (Z)ZergMaN OR (Z)July Z SK텔레콤 686.0
20위 ↓1 (P)Anytime P 르까프 655.0

21위 = (T)Midas T SK텔레콤 635.0
22위 ↑1 (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Z 온게임넷 613.0
23위 ↓1 (T)fOrGG T 르까프 562.5
24위 ↑4 (Z)GoRush Z SK텔레콤 546.5
25위 ↓1 강 민 P KTF 536.5
26위 ↓1 (P)Rock P 위메이드 532.5
27위 ↓1 (Z)Luxury Z 온게임넷 516.5
28위 ↓1 (T)XellOs T CJ 496.5
29위 = (P)Kal P S TX 445.0
30위 = (P)Tester P eS TRO 417.5

31위 = (P)Chalrenge P 온게임넷 373.5
32위 = (T)Sheis T STX 365.0
33위 ↑2 (T)BoxeR T 공군 343.5
34위 ↓1 (P)Pusan P mbcgame 341.0
35위 ↓1 (T)Canata T SK텔레콤 322.0
36위 = (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm Z STX 318.5
37위 = (Z)maGma Z eSTRO 288.5
38위 = (Z)Kwanro Z CJ 279.0
39위 = (Z)oDin Z samsung 272.0
40위 = (T)Shudder T SK텔레콤 251.0

41위 ↑1 (T)Casy T 위메이드 242.0
41위 ↑3 (P)HerO P 위메이드 242.0
43위 ↑7 (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm T KTF 237.0
44위 ↓3 (P)Reach P KTF 227.5
45위 ↑8 (Z)OversKy Z 공군 219.0
46위 ↓1 (T)Shine T 온게임넷 214.5
47위 ↓4 (T)TheManiaMST T CJ 206.5
48위 ↓2 (T)Justin T 온게임넷 197.0
49위 ↓1 (P)JangBi P samsung 192.5
50위 ↑5 (P)BeSt P SK텔레콤 188.0

51위 ↓2 (T)Lomo T 르까프 187.5
52위 ↑4 (T)go.go T 온게임넷 183.5
53위 ↓2 (P)MuJuK P SK텔레콤 181.0
54위 ↓7 (T)FrOzean T samsung 180.5
55위 ↓3 (Z)HyuN Z mbcgame 168.5
56위 ↓2 (Z)815 Z KTF 165.0
57위 ↑12 (Z)FireFist Z 위메이드 163.0
58위 = (T)Freedom T samsung 162.0
59위 ↓2 (Z)Clon Z 공군 152.5
60위 ↑3 (P)GuemChi P 한빛 147.0

Top 10 players from each race.

Terran- (T)Hwasin(8 Weeks) ↑4 (T)Light ↓1 (P)LuCifer OR (T)Flash (T)firebathero ↓2 (T)Iris ↓1 (T)Sea ↑1 (T)UpMagiC ↓1 (T)Mind (T)iloveoov ↑1 (T)NaDa

Zerg- (Z)sAviOr(57 Weeks) (Z)GGPlay OR (T)JJando_V (Z)Jaedong (Z)ZergMaN OR (Z)July (Z)YellOw[ArnC] ↑1 (Z)GoRush ↓1 (Z)Luxury (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm (Z)maGma (Z)Kwanro

Protoss- (P)Bisu(39 Weeks) (P)Stork (P)free (P)Much OR (P)[Oops]Autumn (P)Anytime (P)Nal_rA (P)Rock (P)Kal (P)Tester (P)Chalrenge


WP points = player get points his opponent's win(during last 4 months : 2007.8.3~2007.12.2)*1.5 + win(during 4~8 months ago : 2007.4.3~2007.8.2)*1.0 + win(during 8~12 months ago : 2006.12.3~2007.4.2)*0.5

i.e If Bisu beat player A who've won
4 games during 2007.8.3~2007.12.2,
6 games during 2007.4.3~2007.8.2,
2 games during 2006.12.3~2007.4.2,

he will get 7 wp points. (4*1.5 + 6*1.0 + 2*0.5 = 6 + 6 + 1)


is high or low.

i.e Bisu has better wp points than savior but he would still get 4 red bars if he beats savior and if he lose to savior he would get 1 blue bar.


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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
December 22 2007 06:02 GMT
#24
Why is JangBi engaging in battles when he doesn't need to?! Mindless attack near Shudders main when he was at advantage which made Shudder gain lots of ground.
I thought JangBi was really good at PvT...

Shudder is a bit underrated though. Guess it's 2 Terrans advancing .
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
December 22 2007 06:04 GMT
#25
reinforcements and scans an\' shit

protoss goes for depots, gets like six or seven but loses a solid-sized army

terran pushes after clearing main, gg
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 22 2007 06:04 GMT
#26
Shudder just annihilated Janbi -_-;;
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
BlackSphinx
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada317 Posts
December 22 2007 06:04 GMT
#27
No breaking this tank wall for JangBi.

Shudder takes this game. My predictions still hold! (Brag mode on).
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 22 2007 06:05 GMT
#28
JangBi is pretty bad all around if you ask me. :0
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 22 2007 06:06 GMT
#29
On December 22 2007 15:01 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 14:44 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Did anyone ever figure out what the number of bars above/below each win/loss signifies?

+ Show Spoiler +
One from last round

[image loading]



+ Show Spoiler [yakii's explaination] +

On December 09 2007 09:11 yakii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2007 08:28 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Baezzi: what are those red and blue bars showing before the game? ( @ 0:18 and @ 0:54) It seems that red one is for a win and blue is for a loss against a specific player. But why do they have different number of bars for each win and loss?

i'm not baezzi but oh well.
those bars represent the current play-skill of the players that a particular player has won or lost against
for example bisu would be like 4bars. when like KTF_yellow wud be like 1 or 2.


Is this actually what the bars mean?


[image loading]


On December 09 2007 11:59 yakii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2007 11:07 intotherainx wrote:
are the bars in relation to the player at hand, ie if bisu lost to someone decent but someone bad compared to him, would it be 3 blue bars or say, 1 or 2?


nope, it doesn't compare within the players. It only depends on how his opponent's WP rank (MBCgame's own ranking system) + Show Spoiler [W.P rank] +


WP rank - December Week 1, 2007 (2006.12.3~2007.12.2)

순위 이름 소속 W P
01위 = (P)Bisu P mbcgame 1853.0 (24 Weeks)
02위 = (P)Stork P samsung 1684.0
03위 = (Z)sAviOr Z CJ 1430.5
04위 = (T)Hwasin T STX 1389.5
05위 ↑6 (T)Light T mbcgame 1086.5
06위 ↑3 (P)free P 한빛 1071.5
07위 ↓2 (Z)GGPlay OR (T)JJando_V Z 한빛 1057.0
08위 ↓2 (P)LuCifer OR (T)Flash T KTF 1056.0
09위 ↑3 (Z)Jaedong Z 르까프 1023.0
10위 ↓2 (T)firebathero T samsung 999.0

11위 ↓4 (T)Iris T CJ 977.0
12위 ↓2 (T)Sea T mbcgame 950.0
13위 ↑2 (T)UpMagiC T eSTRO 871.5
14위 ↓1 (T)Mind T 위메이드 844.5
15위 ↓1 (P)Much OR (P)[Oops]Autumn P CJ 797.5
16위 ↑1 (T)iloveoov T SK텔레콤 710.0
17위 ↑3 (T)NaDa T 위메이드 703.0
18위 = (T)DarkElf OR (P)resisa T CJ 701.0
19위 ↓3 (Z)ZergMaN OR (Z)July Z SK텔레콤 686.0
20위 ↓1 (P)Anytime P 르까프 655.0

21위 = (T)Midas T SK텔레콤 635.0
22위 ↑1 (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Z 온게임넷 613.0
23위 ↓1 (T)fOrGG T 르까프 562.5
24위 ↑4 (Z)GoRush Z SK텔레콤 546.5
25위 ↓1 강 민 P KTF 536.5
26위 ↓1 (P)Rock P 위메이드 532.5
27위 ↓1 (Z)Luxury Z 온게임넷 516.5
28위 ↓1 (T)XellOs T CJ 496.5
29위 = (P)Kal P S TX 445.0
30위 = (P)Tester P eS TRO 417.5

31위 = (P)Chalrenge P 온게임넷 373.5
32위 = (T)Sheis T STX 365.0
33위 ↑2 (T)BoxeR T 공군 343.5
34위 ↓1 (P)Pusan P mbcgame 341.0
35위 ↓1 (T)Canata T SK텔레콤 322.0
36위 = (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm Z STX 318.5
37위 = (Z)maGma Z eSTRO 288.5
38위 = (Z)Kwanro Z CJ 279.0
39위 = (Z)oDin Z samsung 272.0
40위 = (T)Shudder T SK텔레콤 251.0

41위 ↑1 (T)Casy T 위메이드 242.0
41위 ↑3 (P)HerO P 위메이드 242.0
43위 ↑7 (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm T KTF 237.0
44위 ↓3 (P)Reach P KTF 227.5
45위 ↑8 (Z)OversKy Z 공군 219.0
46위 ↓1 (T)Shine T 온게임넷 214.5
47위 ↓4 (T)TheManiaMST T CJ 206.5
48위 ↓2 (T)Justin T 온게임넷 197.0
49위 ↓1 (P)JangBi P samsung 192.5
50위 ↑5 (P)BeSt P SK텔레콤 188.0

51위 ↓2 (T)Lomo T 르까프 187.5
52위 ↑4 (T)go.go T 온게임넷 183.5
53위 ↓2 (P)MuJuK P SK텔레콤 181.0
54위 ↓7 (T)FrOzean T samsung 180.5
55위 ↓3 (Z)HyuN Z mbcgame 168.5
56위 ↓2 (Z)815 Z KTF 165.0
57위 ↑12 (Z)FireFist Z 위메이드 163.0
58위 = (T)Freedom T samsung 162.0
59위 ↓2 (Z)Clon Z 공군 152.5
60위 ↑3 (P)GuemChi P 한빛 147.0

Top 10 players from each race.

Terran- (T)Hwasin(8 Weeks) ↑4 (T)Light ↓1 (P)LuCifer OR (T)Flash (T)firebathero ↓2 (T)Iris ↓1 (T)Sea ↑1 (T)UpMagiC ↓1 (T)Mind (T)iloveoov ↑1 (T)NaDa

Zerg- (Z)sAviOr(57 Weeks) (Z)GGPlay OR (T)JJando_V (Z)Jaedong (Z)ZergMaN OR (Z)July (Z)YellOw[ArnC] ↑1 (Z)GoRush ↓1 (Z)Luxury (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm (Z)maGma (Z)Kwanro

Protoss- (P)Bisu(39 Weeks) (P)Stork (P)free (P)Much OR (P)[Oops]Autumn (P)Anytime (P)Nal_rA (P)Rock (P)Kal (P)Tester (P)Chalrenge


WP points = player get points his opponent's win(during last 4 months : 2007.8.3~2007.12.2)*1.5 + win(during 4~8 months ago : 2007.4.3~2007.8.2)*1.0 + win(during 8~12 months ago : 2006.12.3~2007.4.2)*0.5

i.e If Bisu beat player A who've won
4 games during 2007.8.3~2007.12.2,
6 games during 2007.4.3~2007.8.2,
2 games during 2006.12.3~2007.4.2,

he will get 7 wp points. (4*1.5 + 6*1.0 + 2*0.5 = 6 + 6 + 1)


is high or low.

i.e Bisu has better wp points than savior but he would still get 4 red bars if he beats savior and if he lose to savior he would get 1 blue bar.




So... In layman terms:

More red bars = good
More blue bars = bad
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 22 2007 06:07 GMT
#30
On December 22 2007 15:05 zer0das wrote:
JangBi is pretty bad all around if you ask me. :0


agreed
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 22 2007 06:07 GMT
#31
On December 22 2007 14:45 Last Romantic wrote:
Yes

Big red = win vs strong opponent
little red = win vs weak opponent
little white = loss vs strong opponent
big white = loss vs weak opponent


oh shit now i know thanks LR <3
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 22 2007 06:09 GMT
#32
Jangbi is supposed to have a higher win record than Stork in practice games but tends to choke in live games. He's a bit like Canata? Except he wins more often. :p
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 22 2007 06:13 GMT
#33
On December 22 2007 15:09 KizZBG wrote:
Jangbi is supposed to have a higher win record than Stork in practice games but tends to choke in live games. He's a bit like Canata? Except he wins more often. :p


i seen some pretty nice performance from canata lately
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 22 2007 06:15 GMT
#34
aww shit its a tvt
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7097 Posts
December 22 2007 06:16 GMT
#35
I want Shudder to qualify badly, but I just can't help but feel bad for him having to meet Sea now;;
just a terran.. just a terran
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 22 2007 06:19 GMT
#36
ok leme be sure i got it right its sea at the 7 and shudder at the 1 ?
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
December 22 2007 06:28 GMT
#37
shudder playing no anti-air style
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
December 22 2007 06:28 GMT
#38
Kuja: right. You can see the teams up at the top, Sea (MBCGame) has the purple terran at 7
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51705 Posts
December 22 2007 06:29 GMT
#39
macro-intense match here
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
December 22 2007 06:36 GMT
#40
this is actually a really entertaining game game... seemed like sea had a big advantage but shudder's turned it around with surprise wraiths and then a big attack... hitting 3 of sea's bases at once! now sea is doing well again despite being behind in upgrades
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