you are just very biased against Bisu

yes, his PvP and PvT are inferior to his PvZ, but his PvP/PvT is still among the best out of all Protoss other than Stork

so if you think Bisu's PvP and PvT are "weak" then every single Protoss is weak other than Stork, and that can't be the case

plus, i don't see why you think Stork's PvZ is suddenly "strong" now

that doesn't make his pvp/pvt good. he's known for his pvz and if he's matched up with anything else, pvp or pvt, there's a high chance that he'll lose. Or pull off very lucky wins, we've seen this so many times with his recent matches.

2 MSL wins, 1 runner up, 1 top 4 is not "below average." Having the best PvZ ever out of anyone in the history of Brood War is better than "decent." Beating Stork in MSL finals and Hwasin in Ro16 means your PvP and PvT do not "suck."

It's really easy to ignore the matches where he gets absolutely demolished and say he's good. hiya vs bisu, stork vs bisu, mind vs bisu, free vs bisu. And not lose where you just fluff it off, but lose in the sense where you think "hmm, is he supposed to be good?" If he gets paired with a lot of zergs, he'll probably go very far in the series. Once his pvz falls, he won't be able to catch up.

Waves

Australia185 Posts

December 20 2007 09:56 GMT

#84

On December 20 2007 18:56 M2 wrote:
did someone care who will win this ?

Liquibetters always care.

Naib

Hungary4952 Posts

December 20 2007 09:57 GMT

#85

Well my stream was down, and couldn't watch - came back @ the end though. (T)

Sheis eventually took like 4+ expos after identical mirror builds (1 marine, then 1 vult into 2 fact while FE for both players) and raped (T)

sKyHigh with superior skill, I guess.

So (P)

SangHo vs

Sheis rematch for the 2nd spot coming up

Naib

Hungary4952 Posts

December 20 2007 09:58 GMT

#86

On December 20 2007 18:56 game.no wrote:
most idiots i've seen so far on tl.net

I must say I laughed at this part, do you look too much at your mirror image?

edit: or your own posts, for that matter. Though you provided some reasons this time, it's not even worth countering...

Waves

Australia185 Posts

December 20 2007 10:00 GMT

#87

Come on Sheis. Redeem yourself second time around.

Dyllyn

Singapore670 Posts

December 20 2007 10:00 GMT

#88

okay basic game recap of sheis vs skyhigh: both players go 1fac cc

skyhigh opts for a faster tank/gol/dropship while sheis sticks with vulture/tank into mid game

good vulture harras does serious damage to skyhigh's economy, while skyhigh doesn't do much against sheis. With both players camped on either side of the valley, sheis suddenly pushes foward (he's been doing a tvp style slow push, except without the turrets) long story short sheis's better tank count wins him battles and he gains ground onto skyhigh's side of the valley. skyhigh attempts drops which do squat because vultures always show up to deal with the problem. sheis might lose 3 vultures for every attacking unit, but he still saves his economy.

Skyhigh's weaker econ allows sheis to get fortified positions with heavy tank numbers while doing damage to skyhigh's attempts to expo.

throught the game, skyhigh has been very careless with his scvs, using them to attack harassers instead of just maynarding out. in the first harass, he loses upwards of 8 scvs this way.

it pretty much goes downhill when sheis gets his 8 dropships and uses them around the map to good effect

sheis gets into skyhigh's base via 2inch drop from the 12.30 ish expansion

sheis prepares battlecruisers

skyhigh realizes he's toast and ggs