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On December 20 2007 18:05 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2007 17:52 dragoonkf wrote:On December 20 2007 17:50 Hittegods wrote:
Nice going there sheis, just ram your tanks into the carriers, they'll fall eventually, right? RIGHT? i lol'ed very hard. Sheis is like bisu another Zerg killer but when it comes to other mu, they just fall down easily, but the difference is bisu's other MU has got some ray of hope =/ clearly OSL semifinals against best PvP on the planet and MSL finals is exactly the same situation as Ever)T(Sheis, who has made exactly one MSL and exited unceremoniously in the round of 32. despite all this, you are obviously right, the only difference between them is Bisu's other MU has "got some ray of hope =/" i can totally see the parallels you draw between these two very similar players, Bisu and Sheis, your breakthrough analysis is not only nuanced but worthy of the highest praise. i mean... "strong versus zergs!!! weak versus everyone else!!!" how does it get any better than that? have you considered applying to ESPN to be an analyst? they could use you.
I love how everyone thinks that Bisu's weak matchups make him vulnerable to the entire race, I mean in those matchups, he's only at a disadvantage against other S-Class players (and only a slight one at that). He's miles above 90% of those S-Class players in his best matchups anyways, show me a single P asides from Stork that could have pulled off what he did. Or another P who could have beaten Stork on that fateful MSL final.
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anyone show p how to storm.. horrible micro
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LINGS LINGS LINGS. Is it embarassing if you get owned by the cheapest units in the game? :D
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Yarnc did a quick bow as SangHo passed, manners ftw.
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On December 20 2007 18:21 IaniAniaN wrote:Or another P who could have beaten Stork on that fateful OSL semifinal.
;p
On December 20 2007 18:23 Bazse wrote:
LINGS LINGS LINGS. Is it embarassing if you get owned by the cheapest units in the game? :D
Actually, upgraded cracklings are pretty scary and I wouldn't find it embarrassing for any toss to lose against them. Now I ain't watching the game so I don't know if Yarnc's lings are on steroids or upgraded... 
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On December 20 2007 18:05 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2007 17:52 dragoonkf wrote:On December 20 2007 17:50 Hittegods wrote:
Nice going there sheis, just ram your tanks into the carriers, they'll fall eventually, right? RIGHT? i lol'ed very hard. Sheis is like bisu another Zerg killer but when it comes to other mu, they just fall down easily, but the difference is bisu's other MU has got some ray of hope =/ clearly OSL semifinals against best PvP on the planet and MSL finals is exactly the same situation as Ever)T(Sheis, who has made exactly one MSL and exited unceremoniously in the round of 32. despite all this, you are obviously right, the only difference between them is Bisu's other MU has "got some ray of hope =/" i can totally see the parallels you draw between these two very similar players, Bisu and Sheis, your breakthrough analysis is not only nuanced but worthy of the highest praise. i mean... "strong versus zergs!!! weak versus everyone else!!!" how does it get any better than that? have you considered applying to ESPN to be an analyst? they could use you.
OkOk i never state it clearly, Bisu's other MU is seriously better than alot others but it is dwarfed by his PvZ.
For Sheis, his TvT is actually alright because he has been playing against great players, his TvZ is really a killer, like a comparison to Bisu, but his TvP is really.... just below average imo.
On-topic : Nice play by yarnc, his drops really hurt Sangho very badly especially destroying the nexus 2 times =/. Now for Sangho to take out Skyhigh/Sheis and advance !
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true true, I honestly can't think of another P that would have gotten demolished so pathetically as bisu did against stork 0-3 not even close, no offense to his fans. =)
Stork is strong in PvP, strong in PvT, weak in PvZ. after using bisu build, stork is Strong in PvP, strong in PvT, strong in PvZ.
Bisu is weak in PvP, weak in PvT, strong in PvZ. though i don't see his pvz strength lasting all that long, you can see hints of it.
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On December 20 2007 18:27 dragoonkf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2007 18:05 Hot_Bid wrote:On December 20 2007 17:52 dragoonkf wrote:On December 20 2007 17:50 Hittegods wrote:
Nice going there sheis, just ram your tanks into the carriers, they'll fall eventually, right? RIGHT? i lol'ed very hard. Sheis is like bisu another Zerg killer but when it comes to other mu, they just fall down easily, but the difference is bisu's other MU has got some ray of hope =/ clearly OSL semifinals against best PvP on the planet and MSL finals is exactly the same situation as Ever)T(Sheis, who has made exactly one MSL and exited unceremoniously in the round of 32. despite all this, you are obviously right, the only difference between them is Bisu's other MU has "got some ray of hope =/" i can totally see the parallels you draw between these two very similar players, Bisu and Sheis, your breakthrough analysis is not only nuanced but worthy of the highest praise. i mean... "strong versus zergs!!! weak versus everyone else!!!" how does it get any better than that? have you considered applying to ESPN to be an analyst? they could use you. OkOk i never state it clearly, Bisu's other MU is seriously better than alot others but it is dwarfed by his PvZ. For Sheis, his TvT is actually alright because he has been playing against great players, his TvZ is really a killer, like a comparison to Bisu, but his TvP is really.... just below average imo. On-topic : Nice play by yarnc, his drops really hurt Sangho very badly especially destroying the nexus 2 times =/. Now for Sangho to take out Skyhigh/Sheis and advance !
except that none of Bisu's matchups are even close to "below average"
Sheis vs. P sucks horribly, while Bisu vs P and vs T are way above average. He's the second or third best in PvT and PvP as well.
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On December 20 2007 18:27 dragoonkf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2007 18:05 Hot_Bid wrote:On December 20 2007 17:52 dragoonkf wrote:On December 20 2007 17:50 Hittegods wrote:
Nice going there sheis, just ram your tanks into the carriers, they'll fall eventually, right? RIGHT? i lol'ed very hard. Sheis is like bisu another Zerg killer but when it comes to other mu, they just fall down easily, but the difference is bisu's other MU has got some ray of hope =/ clearly OSL semifinals against best PvP on the planet and MSL finals is exactly the same situation as Ever)T(Sheis, who has made exactly one MSL and exited unceremoniously in the round of 32. despite all this, you are obviously right, the only difference between them is Bisu's other MU has "got some ray of hope =/" i can totally see the parallels you draw between these two very similar players, Bisu and Sheis, your breakthrough analysis is not only nuanced but worthy of the highest praise. i mean... "strong versus zergs!!! weak versus everyone else!!!" how does it get any better than that? have you considered applying to ESPN to be an analyst? they could use you. OkOk i never state it clearly, Bisu's other MU is seriously better than alot others but it is dwarfed by his PvZ. For Sheis, his TvT is actually alright because he has been playing against great players, his TvZ is really a killer, like a comparison to Bisu, but his TvP is really.... just below average imo. On-topic : Nice play by yarnc, his drops really hurt Sangho very badly especially destroying the nexus 2 times =/. Now for Sangho to take out Skyhigh/Sheis and advance !
Asides from the MSL Finals, when was the last time you saw Bisu play a PvT that just hurt to watch? He's so good, I doubt you've even watched any of the games.
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knowing skyhigh is a clone of fbh, i now have zero faith in him.
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On December 20 2007 18:31 game.no wrote:
true true, I honestly can't think of another P that would have gotten demolished so pathetically as bisu did against stork 0-3 not even close, no offense to his fans. =)
Stork is strong in PvP, strong in PvT, weak in PvZ. after using bisu build, stork is Strong in PvP, strong in PvT, strong in PvZ.
Bisu is weak in PvP, weak in PvT, strong in PvZ. though i don't see his pvz strength lasting all that long, you can see hints of it.
you are just very biased against Bisu
yes, his PvP and PvT are inferior to his PvZ, but his PvP/PvT is still among the best out of all Protoss other than Stork
so if you think Bisu's PvP and PvT are "weak" then every single Protoss is weak other than Stork, and that can't be the case
plus, i don't see why you think Stork's PvZ is suddenly "strong" now
Edit: And... I just checked your post history, this is a good gem:
On December 19 2007 22:03 game.no wrote:
nobody is saying bisu is a god.
he's actually below average player. the only place where he's remotely decent is pvz and that won't last very long. his pvp sucks, his pvt sucks. if you disagree you're a idiot.
2 MSL wins, 1 runner up, 1 top 4 is not "below average." Having the best PvZ ever out of anyone in the history of Brood War is better than "decent." Beating Stork in MSL finals and Hwasin in Ro16 means your PvP and PvT do not "suck."
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Is it just me, or does SkyHigh look totally like FireBatZero?
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On December 20 2007 18:35 GTR-2-Go wrote:
knowing skyhigh is a clone of fbh, i now have zero faith in him.
Oh, I guess it's not only me
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Hot_Bid, I must recite my post from another topic to plead you not to argue against game.no, it doesn't help. Many have tried, fallen they have! 
No, seriously, that guy has some issues and is selectively blind - sees only what he wants to.
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On December 20 2007 18:36 Naib wrote:Hot_Bid, I must recite my post from another topic to plead you not to argue against game.no, it doesn't help. Many have tried, fallen they have! No, seriously, that guy has some issues and is selectively blind - sees only what he wants to.
His religion is to be anti-bisu.
EDIT: Maybe a mod could change all his posts to: bisu build
Then his opinions might be interesting.
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Anyone watching the game btw? Or it is not that interesting, i have to agree, since only 1 of the players opted for a Bisu build.
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Oh yeah, forgot to add that for fun's sake, good reminder!
SkyHigh did a
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So did Sheis.
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I apologies, i was mistaken. BOTH players have done a
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man skyhigh is getting rolled
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