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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
May 13 2025 01:29 GMT
#161
Best winning is the worst result.

Either gonna be a PvP final or Soulkey will smash him 4-0
#1 Terran hater
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1206 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-13 02:13:57
May 13 2025 02:11 GMT
#162
On May 13 2025 08:28 Simplistik wrote:
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On May 13 2025 07:44 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Congrats to Best. Is this his first star league final since remastered?

It's his first final since EVER OSL in 2008.

Which makes me wonder... Did he play in the Sonic leagues at all?

He was in the QSEN starcasttv starleague finals vs snow just a few days ago

(Wiki)StarCastTV/Star League/4
JDON MY SOUL!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2115 Posts
May 13 2025 02:32 GMT
#163
On May 13 2025 10:29 Highways wrote:
Best winning is the worst result.

Either gonna be a PvP final or Soulkey will smash him 4-0

I don't know. Light hasn't really convinced me. He seems to lose his way in the later stages of tournaments a bit. Guess what I'm saying is that he might've gotten smashed by SK too.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey771 Posts
May 13 2025 03:21 GMT
#164
No worries SK will smash Snow too.

On May 13 2025 10:29 Highways wrote:
Best winning is the worst result.

Either gonna be a PvP final or Soulkey will smash him 4-0

Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
May 13 2025 04:44 GMT
#165
On May 13 2025 02:58 prosatan wrote:
I am so happy for Best !!!

Rip LB tho...


Exactly my feeling LOL
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 13 2025 05:23 GMT
#166
People are already calling for Soulkey in the finals, but as I'm looking at the statistics the result seems completely unclear. Snow is only an underdog due to the natural PvZ disadvantage. I'd put his chances in this match at 40-45%
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2115 Posts
May 13 2025 05:43 GMT
#167
On May 13 2025 11:11 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2025 08:28 Simplistik wrote:
On May 13 2025 07:44 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Congrats to Best. Is this his first star league final since remastered?

It's his first final since EVER OSL in 2008.

Which makes me wonder... Did he play in the Sonic leagues at all?

He was in the QSEN starcasttv starleague finals vs snow just a few days ago

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/StarCastTV/Star_League/4

OK, but it's not a top tournament.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7850 Posts
May 13 2025 06:10 GMT
#168
Super proud of Best. After such a ROUGH game 1. And game 6.

Really glad for him.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5360 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-13 09:42:52
May 13 2025 09:42 GMT
#169
On May 13 2025 14:43 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2025 11:11 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On May 13 2025 08:28 Simplistik wrote:
On May 13 2025 07:44 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Congrats to Best. Is this his first star league final since remastered?

It's his first final since EVER OSL in 2008.

Which makes me wonder... Did he play in the Sonic leagues at all?

He was in the QSEN starcasttv starleague finals vs snow just a few days ago

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/StarCastTV/Star_League/4

OK, but it's not a top tournament.

Best didn't play in anything hosted by Sonic nor did he play in China afaik back when Savior, Movie. Sea(?) and some others did.
FBH #1!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1206 Posts
May 14 2025 11:03 GMT
#170
On May 13 2025 18:42 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2025 14:43 Simplistik wrote:
On May 13 2025 11:11 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On May 13 2025 08:28 Simplistik wrote:
On May 13 2025 07:44 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Congrats to Best. Is this his first star league final since remastered?

It's his first final since EVER OSL in 2008.

Which makes me wonder... Did he play in the Sonic leagues at all?

He was in the QSEN starcasttv starleague finals vs snow just a few days ago

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/StarCastTV/Star_League/4

OK, but it's not a top tournament.

Best didn't play in anything hosted by Sonic nor did he play in China afaik back when Savior, Movie. Sea(?) and some others did.

Best made it to three starcast tour finals, which pretty much have all the asl players. also made castermuse 4 final, which also has the entire asl roster.
JDON MY SOUL!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5360 Posts
May 14 2025 13:48 GMT
#171
Simplistic is talking also Sonic Starleague, sponsored by Sinbalfarm and later Sbenu both shoe companies Sonic was a CEO of before ASL and KSL were hosted. This time was basically not that long after the infamous Savior and co. matchfixing scandal, SC2 and Blizzard drama that forced BW underground for years.

SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since.

Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit.

Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit.

Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work.

My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5360 Posts
May 14 2025 13:51 GMT
#172
The dude has no dirt or simply knows how to hide it better than how to win a gold.
FBH #1!
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada129 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-14 21:26:28
May 14 2025 21:25 GMT
#173
This was the best outcome.

Light would get stomped by both SK and Snow.

Best would have a better chance against SK at least, even if he'd have a worse chance against Snow
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10873 Posts
May 14 2025 22:27 GMT
#174
Lets just hope history doesnt repeat itself... For bests sake.... (still best OSL finals ever :p)
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-15 07:55:17
May 15 2025 07:54 GMT
#175
good fucking games. best popping off after holding 2 fact mustve felt so cathartic after losing to that earlier.
Skol
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-15 09:16:24
May 15 2025 09:08 GMT
#176
On May 14 2025 22:48 Peeano wrote:
Simplistic is talking also Sonic Starleague, sponsored by Sinbalfarm and later Sbenu both shoe companies Sonic was a CEO of before ASL and KSL were hosted. This time was basically not that long after the infamous Savior and co. matchfixing scandal, SC2 and Blizzard drama that forced BW underground for years.

SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since.

Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit.

Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit.

Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work.

My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history.


best is also known for having a huge D... which makes him even a bigger outlier inbetween korean gamers...
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5360 Posts
May 15 2025 09:50 GMT
#177
On May 15 2025 18:08 XenOsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2025 22:48 Peeano wrote:
Simplistic is talking also Sonic Starleague, sponsored by Sinbalfarm and later Sbenu both shoe companies Sonic was a CEO of before ASL and KSL were hosted. This time was basically not that long after the infamous Savior and co. matchfixing scandal, SC2 and Blizzard drama that forced BW underground for years.

SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since.

Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit.

Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit.

Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work.

My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history.


best is also known for having a huge D... which makes him even a bigger outlier inbetween korean gamers...

I thought that was a trademark only belonged to RapiD
FBH #1!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey680 Posts
May 15 2025 18:36 GMT
#178
3 hours of slugfest. Honestly, I couldn't finish it in two days, I was at the edge of my seat fingers crossed for Best. When I read a commentator post we got a series after the third game I couldn't wait any longer however when they tied up I still lost my cool. The second day when another titan of a game finished and they tied up once again, I was totally questioning is this it? However it wasn't to be... Best is the prince that was promised! I'm marking it for future reference.
Turrican
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2115 Posts
May 16 2025 05:38 GMT
#179
On May 14 2025 22:48 Peeano wrote:
Simplistic is talking also Sonic Starleague, sponsored by Sinbalfarm and later Sbenu both shoe companies Sonic was a CEO of before ASL and KSL were hosted. This time was basically not that long after the infamous Savior and co. matchfixing scandal, SC2 and Blizzard drama that forced BW underground for years.

SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since.

Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit.

Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit.

Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work.

My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history.

I wasn't even thinking of the scandals. Just that the most prestigious tournaments were SSL.

What did Best do during that time? Stream?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-16 05:50:06
May 16 2025 05:49 GMT
#180
Turns out he went from SC2 to the army, and came back pretty much in time for remastered.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
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