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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1143 Posts
On April 16 2025 08:57 Ideas wrote: Is it me or does JD have better ZvT than ZvP right now? he looks so good. Watching JD kill vessels nonstop is one of the greatest joy of watching pro BW From what i can tell, his zvsp always has and still is better than his zvst. He certainly has improved though, but lets be honest: everything went jaedong's way today. And good for him, go jd! | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4300 Posts
 Haha, nice one. GGs! | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
On April 16 2025 10:37 TornadoSteve wrote: From what i can tell, his zvsp always has and still is better than his zvst. He certainly has improved though, but lets be honest: everything went jaedong's way today. And good for him, go jd! Peak JD never really had a weak matchup. His ZvZ was near unbeatable but his ZvT and ZvP wasn’t far behind. I wonder how well he does atm against guys like Hero, Queen, SK and Action. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
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Lazyer
United States402 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1779 Posts
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Zografa
336 Posts
On April 16 2025 15:14 RowdierBob wrote: Peak JD never really had a weak matchup. His ZvZ was near unbeatable but his ZvT and ZvP wasn’t far behind. I wonder how well he does atm against guys like Hero, Queen, SK and Action. SK and hero far more steady results than current JD, Action and Queen not so much. Action is imo worse than JD overall. Currently 1. SK 2. hero 3. Queen 4. JD in terms of zergs. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1143 Posts
On April 16 2025 15:17 RowdierBob wrote: And is it just me or the the T>Z>P>T super pronounced at the moment? Not sure about the others mu but P>T is the most pronounced right now because most P are attacking so well... With the exceptions of R*** and B**u | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19396 Posts
On April 16 2025 15:14 RowdierBob wrote: Peak JD never really had a weak matchup. His ZvZ was near unbeatable but his ZvT and ZvP wasn’t far behind. I wonder how well he does atm against guys like Hero, Queen, SK and Action. On that note, even though he played great in the TvZ and his muta control was good. I couldn't help think, this is the guy who could micro two control groups of mutas at the same time, so his control of one group of mutas is actually just "okay" compared to his peak level lol. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On April 16 2025 15:17 RowdierBob wrote: And is it just me or the the T>Z>P>T super pronounced at the moment? I think that part is very instrumental in depicting the whole picture. When you are trying to go against the current, one base strategies Bisu play may break the norm. I haven't seen such dominant plays like he displayed in the last round. PS: I must say he might also follow up Speed at a spot in the highlights of this season. Macro and micro don't always mix. I just wanted to say you need to gamble with more aggression against a macro efficient zerg player, but I think Bisu has the most propensity for such hard earned victories. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
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QRCode
United States62 Posts
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On April 17 2025 04:04 QRCode wrote: Speed's a good player. But he was not playing up to his standard. He failed to impress with any micro plays, and JD and Best were just playing it safe and outsmarting him. He needs to up his execution or change his playstyle a bit. That is what I saw with DeWalt, too. Pros like soma don't have to play risky and make their opponents look out of position while doing it. | ||
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Expensive-Law-9830
130 Posts
On April 16 2025 08:57 Ideas wrote: Is it me or does JD have better ZvT than ZvP right now? he looks so good. Watching JD kill vessels nonstop is one of the greatest joy of watching pro BW I mean, last month his daily proleague stats had him at 65% ZvT winrate vs his 50% ZvP winrate... Could also be that there is no outstanding terran player while there is Snow and Mini. | ||
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HolySmokes
57 Posts
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HOLYBATS
Turkey851 Posts
On April 17 2025 09:41 HolySmokes wrote: Terran is looking super weak now with so many numbers fallen off the backs of both ZvT and PvT. It's mostly a PvZ battlefield now. Group C is going to be an absolute bloodbath. And Group D to settle the dust...this ASL is looking hype! | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
PS: just kidding. It has all to do with the map pool. Large and restrictive > air units rank supreme. | ||
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goody153
44311 Posts
I actually have given up him making it even outside R16 after awhile lol | ||
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Artas1984
156 Posts
On April 15 2025 22:27 RowdierBob wrote: Is there a bigger skill gap in BW between Best’s PvT and PvZ? Dude would romp through ASL if he only had to face Terrans and would struggle to make ro16 playing only zergs -_- I kind'a disagree. I think he is solid overall in all matches. Best is the most original protoss player in ASL vs. zerg - he somehow has a higher winrate in PvZ than in PvP and i PvT, he is the most common cannon rusher, he makes dark templars way more often than any other protoss and he very often makes a red archon to counter mutas & kill defilers. His unorthodox PvZ style is something that zerg our lords often find hard to deal with, where as Bisu's perfect standard, but in a way predictable play style, is these days an easy read-able for guys like Soulkey and Hero. On April 16 2025 00:34 chongu wrote: Raise your dongers! Checked. On April 15 2025 20:02 Zografa wrote: casters talking bs how far behind was jd, after he kills 2 pylons 2 canons and 3 probes with losing like 3 lings... Haha, yes! Those guys are zergs. All they see is this: 4 drones not mining versus 2 probes not mining. 2 drones forced into sunken colonies, which might have no use in the short time to come. Zerglings forced into a forge expand build, which could have been drones. They are biased and they were obvioulsy wrong... Anyone neutral sees the situation like this: protoss wasted 2 pylons and a canon for nothing. Zerg wasted 2 drones for sunkens, which might come useful later. Zerg kept a hatchery alive vs. cannon rush and did not loose a single drone defending it - zerg is ahead. On April 16 2025 08:51 BisuDagger wrote: Jaedong and BeSt in the ro8 makes this the best ASL ever. What a day for those two! For me this is the best R16 ASL i have seen so far! The next natural obvious thing is for Bisu to disappoint us all and loose to some stupid shit, just coz you know - we don't deserve both JD and Bisu facing each other in R8, in best of 7. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT [2025-04-23] On April 15 2025 20:40 Zografa wrote: casters again unaware that JD had reached ro4 and ro8 in ASL already... talking how he would cement his legacy if he reaches ro8 I just checked this by watching the StarCastTV video and you were wrong! They were aware of JD's previous R8. I had to edit my previous message, because i wrote unnecessary criticism thinking you were right... Xun said: "this is his (JD) first time breaking through into a round of 8 in quite a few tournaments''. You need to listen CAREFULLY next time and not give Sayian and Xun a bad name with your misinterpretation! | ||
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