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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-02 09:32:26
April 02 2025 09:31 GMT
#221
If rumors about Bisu being a lady's man are true I think it's safe to interpret his "I was sick" as
"I was busy signing autographs for female fans."
FBH #1!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-02 12:28:41
April 02 2025 12:25 GMT
#222
That first game by bisu felt bad with the forgotten upgrade on the storm lol

Good adaptation by Light too when the marine all-in failed

It is kinda expected Light and Bisu made it but man was it close for both screwing it up

On April 01 2025 11:07 BisuDagger wrote:
Despite all Bisu’s mistakes, I actually thought his micro was really good in all the games. If he can get control of his game management, he can have a better run in the ro16.

The Corsair micro was overall solid. It never went into danger zone at all

But the forgotten storm was kinda funny
this is a quote
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-02 16:11:09
April 02 2025 16:09 GMT
#223
It is this thing with Bisu that there is always a huge deal of drama around him in the rounds of 24/16. He tries to keep his composure cool, but "shit demon always finds him" and puts him in awe-kward situations. While players like Shuttle, Calm and Sea are the real drama queens of ASL, trying to find exposure where there is none to be found, with Bisu it's like the other way around. I am just glad Tyson managed to eliminate JYJ on his way to such a fiasco.
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia906 Posts
April 03 2025 05:18 GMT
#224
It's interesting watching the Tastosis video and how high their opinions are of the first two games.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
April 03 2025 21:35 GMT
#225
On April 03 2025 01:09 Artas1984 wrote:
It is this thing with Bisu that there is always a huge deal of drama around him in the rounds of 24/16. He tries to keep his composure cool, but "shit demon always finds him" and puts him in awe-kward situations. While players like Shuttle, Calm and Sea are the real drama queens of ASL, trying to find exposure where there is none to be found, with Bisu it's like the other way around. I am just glad Tyson managed to eliminate JYJ on his way to such a fiasco.

He pulled out a Royal victory there.
Turrican
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 06:37:35
April 03 2025 21:39 GMT
#226
On April 01 2025 03:03 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Game is effing hard and obviously shit happens, including being nervous, but dude, Light in that g1 doing every possible thing to not win. Like at every moment saying what's the worst decision I can make and then just doing it. Like, Nic Cage in Leaving Las Vegas levels of self-destruction. And then Tyson still not being able to close it out. That's gotta be a contender for the ASL Razzies LMAO. I would love to have seen this group with TY and MC in it instead.

I think from now on, too, unless you're Mini and are going to just bite your opponent in half, can we please just make a dark archon. Just get one dude. Even if they don't go mutas, it's an aoe stun on a clump of hydras. I'm actually waiting for someone to make 2. That's the season we get a Protoss champion. The guy who has 2 Dark Archons in his army.

I hope these guys can show some better stuff next time. Mostly it's just kinda funny. But after the frist three groups this feels like the last hour of an ecstasy trip, where a cold beer and a bong rip is the only thing keeping you from walking into oncoming traffic.

That and valkyries in TvZ, please. There is no leeway in M&M vs mutalisks.
PS: Wombat you're right. It was in group E fourth game.
Turrican
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
April 03 2025 22:04 GMT
#227
On April 02 2025 18:17 Peeano wrote:
I feel like Bisu has said "I was sick" at least 2 more times before in a winner interview early on in a tournament.
I also feel like we hear this "I was sick" almost every ASL or something, so maybe I'm wrong about Bisu.

People can get sick and underperform, but often "I was sick" comes across as like they're trying to save face after blunders and also to have an excuse ready for when they do drop out on the next round. We don't have loser interviews or we might hear "I was sick" much more often? lol

Could there be a reverse sweep bet? Even Light last season did it, I think there is some other factor at play here like Bisu's build order donation in some past ASL.
Turrican
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26967 Posts
April 03 2025 23:45 GMT
#228
On April 04 2025 06:39 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2025 03:03 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Game is effing hard and obviously shit happens, including being nervous, but dude, Light in that g1 doing every possible thing to not win. Like at every moment saying what's the worst decision I can make and then just doing it. Like, Nic Cage in Leaving Las Vegas levels of self-destruction. And then Tyson still not being able to close it out. That's gotta be a contender for the ASL Razzies LMAO. I would love to have seen this group with TY and MC in it instead.

I think from now on, too, unless you're Mini and are going to just bite your opponent in half, can we please just make a dark archon. Just get one dude. Even if they don't go mutas, it's an aoe stun on a clump of hydras. I'm actually waiting for someone to make 2. That's the season we get a Protoss champion. The guy who has 2 Dark Archons in his army.

I hope these guys can show some better stuff next time. Mostly it's just kinda funny. But after the frist three groups this feels like the last hour of an ecstasy trip, where a cold beer and a bong rip is the only thing keeping you from walking into oncoming traffic.

That and valkyries in TvZ, please. There is no leeway in M&M vs mutalisks.

My memory is probably faulty but I don’t think the TvZ record when valks were built this round was all too hot.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
April 04 2025 08:25 GMT
#229
On April 04 2025 08:45 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2025 06:39 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 01 2025 03:03 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Game is effing hard and obviously shit happens, including being nervous, but dude, Light in that g1 doing every possible thing to not win. Like at every moment saying what's the worst decision I can make and then just doing it. Like, Nic Cage in Leaving Las Vegas levels of self-destruction. And then Tyson still not being able to close it out. That's gotta be a contender for the ASL Razzies LMAO. I would love to have seen this group with TY and MC in it instead.

I think from now on, too, unless you're Mini and are going to just bite your opponent in half, can we please just make a dark archon. Just get one dude. Even if they don't go mutas, it's an aoe stun on a clump of hydras. I'm actually waiting for someone to make 2. That's the season we get a Protoss champion. The guy who has 2 Dark Archons in his army.

I hope these guys can show some better stuff next time. Mostly it's just kinda funny. But after the frist three groups this feels like the last hour of an ecstasy trip, where a cold beer and a bong rip is the only thing keeping you from walking into oncoming traffic.

That and valkyries in TvZ, please. There is no leeway in M&M vs mutalisks.

My memory is probably faulty but I don’t think the TvZ record when valks were built this round was all too hot.


Players have been making Valkyries in TvZ in almost every game for more than a year now?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26967 Posts
April 04 2025 11:55 GMT
#230
On April 04 2025 17:25 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2025 08:45 WombaT wrote:
On April 04 2025 06:39 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 01 2025 03:03 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Game is effing hard and obviously shit happens, including being nervous, but dude, Light in that g1 doing every possible thing to not win. Like at every moment saying what's the worst decision I can make and then just doing it. Like, Nic Cage in Leaving Las Vegas levels of self-destruction. And then Tyson still not being able to close it out. That's gotta be a contender for the ASL Razzies LMAO. I would love to have seen this group with TY and MC in it instead.

I think from now on, too, unless you're Mini and are going to just bite your opponent in half, can we please just make a dark archon. Just get one dude. Even if they don't go mutas, it's an aoe stun on a clump of hydras. I'm actually waiting for someone to make 2. That's the season we get a Protoss champion. The guy who has 2 Dark Archons in his army.

I hope these guys can show some better stuff next time. Mostly it's just kinda funny. But after the frist three groups this feels like the last hour of an ecstasy trip, where a cold beer and a bong rip is the only thing keeping you from walking into oncoming traffic.

That and valkyries in TvZ, please. There is no leeway in M&M vs mutalisks.

My memory is probably faulty but I don’t think the TvZ record when valks were built this round was all too hot.


Players have been making Valkyries in TvZ in almost every game for more than a year now?

I’m just an ASL watcher/the odd other thing Starcast TV do comms for, so Proleague trends aren’t in my wheelhouse.

I was responding to mtcn’s ‘That and valkyries in TvZ, please.’ comment, given I thought I saw plenty this Ro24.

Although I feel I mostly see them in conjunction with tanks. I’m assuming this is to fill out the kit to zone lurkers and defilers to compensate for the lower vessel count necessitated by building valks?

Does anyone just leave a few behind to fend off muta backstabs while going for a Hail Mary bio push or is that just too risky/delays vessels too much etc? I find I usually see either no valks, or the valks move out with the push.

Noob question mayhaps, but I’m under no illusions as to me noobness, always nice to learn a bit!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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