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On April 09 2024 23:32 Shinokuki wrote:
This is looking bad for zergs. Zerg has been doing badly online but very well offline. This is going to affect map pool once again, buffing maps for protoss while zergs (including ladder zergs) continue to suffer online.
Agree. These maps are terrible. In most of them is extremely hard to wall as a zerg player. And in most of them is very hard to defend a 4 expansion. Im not sure if we are going to get worse maps than troy / Blitz Y . But if we end up getting SK vs Hero final you can be sure we getting some crazy sparkle +76 maps for sure. :D
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Tbh, his gameplan in the later games looked to be "bait ling runby on purpose and then kill them with no losses with godlike micro", and he didn't quite pull that off.
Can't explain lack of walls in any other way.
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I'm curious what that Blitz Y game was supposed to look like according to Mini's plan because I just don't see that ever working
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On April 10 2024 00:53 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2024 23:32 Shinokuki wrote:
This is looking bad for zergs. Zerg has been doing badly online but very well offline. This is going to affect map pool once again, buffing maps for protoss while zergs (including ladder zergs) continue to suffer online. Agree. These maps are terrible. In most of them is extremely hard to wall as a zerg player. And in most of them is very hard to defend a 4 expansion. Im not sure if we are going to get worse maps than troy / Blitz Y . But if we end up getting SK vs Hero final you can be sure we getting some crazy sparkle +76 maps for sure. :D
Yes they give simcity to protoss/terran but doesn't give any to zerg. Zerg's simcity is so wide open lol. They also give maps less chokes and easier time for P to get 4th expansion. It's like.. can we stop nerfing zergs JUST because they did well on ASL which is like 0.1% of sample size. We should make maps based on online statistics
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On April 10 2024 01:12 prion_ wrote:
I'm curious what that Blitz Y game was supposed to look like according to Mini's plan because I just don't see that ever working
A couple of things have to fall into place for it to work, aka luck, as you know, there's no such thing as a 100% build order success rate in BW.
For once, if the probe arrived sooner (and the cannons were up sooner) it'd have helped. There was a 30s delay between the hatch and the pylon being put down.
And then, all the lings, according to Mini's plan, should have been on the other side of the map attacking his nat (as he clearly invited Soulkey to do so), and he would fend it off with pure zealot micro.
For some reason, Soulkey didn't catch the bait and flood lings to Mini's nat. That allowed him to quickly send all his lings to save his 3rd hatch.
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That last game.. wtf Mini looks like a match-fixer almost
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On April 10 2024 01:54 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2024 01:12 prion_ wrote:
I'm curious what that Blitz Y game was supposed to look like according to Mini's plan because I just don't see that ever working A couple of things have to fall into place for it to work, aka luck, as you know, there's no such thing as a 100% build order success rate in BW. For once, if the probe arrived sooner (and the cannons were up sooner) it'd have helped. There was a 30s delay between the hatch and the pylon being put down. And then, all the lings, according to Mini's plan, should have been on the other side of the map attacking his nat (as he clearly invited Soulkey to do so), and he would fend it off with pure zealot micro. For some reason, Soulkey didn't catch the bait and flood lings to Mini's nat. That allowed him to quickly send all his lings to save his 3rd hatch.
Makes sense. Though surely the idea with the delay is to prevent SK from cancelling.
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snow is probably glad to play soulkey rather than mini
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On April 10 2024 00:17 RJBTV wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2024 21:53 TMNT wrote:
Snow's probably lose 1-4 or 2-4 in the semifinals. He plays standard. Standard play gets you no chance in PvZ when skills are equal.
In fact they played two BO9s recently and Snow went down 2-4 in both series. Nah SnOw will win 4-2. SnOw in his current form is Flash tier. Mark me words!
I just noticed last season Soulkey was also down 2 games vs JYJ in Ro8 then JYJ kinda threw the last 3 games for him to come back. Then he beat another Terran in the semi.
Mini and Snow this season could be the JYJ and Rush for Soulkey lol.
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Classic Mini. He should've at least attempted another 12 Nex. He pretty much took a gamble 5 times and it only really worked well the first game.
Overall not the best series but it had some entertaining moments. Some sloppy plays from both sides across the series and a rather disappointing last game with Mini not even attempting to scout.
And on build order advantages - did everyone already forget we just watched hero beat rush quite decisively while starting out with a BO disadvantage each game..
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Man... Mini lol. It's like he's playing against himself.
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Mini mini mini... it's so unfortunate that the games SK won were more like games that Mini was just not competitive.
At least it was a better series than yesterday.
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On April 10 2024 15:16 Grouhh wrote:Mini getting beaten once again by his arch-nemesis. + Show Spoiler +
Perfectly sums up Mini lol. I just realized Blitz Y has a win rate of ... 36% for Zerg. Just play a fking normal game and you are already favorite to win bro.
This, and going 12 Nexus on Sylphid vs Sacsri's 9 pool in decider match Ro24, and picking Light first when you have champion privilege, haha...
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Not sure what the point was in cannoning SK’s third. Mini is like the guy in a bball game who is always gambling in passing lanes for steals. Sometimes it comes off and other times you look like a goose.
I’m not sure he was confident in taking SK in long games so was gambling it up for early to mid games wins/losses. SK made a good adjustment by just massing lings early game. SK vs Snow should be epic.
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Mini had a nice lead in game 5 and then decides to lose all his probes to a ling run by?
Wtf is that decision making
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Mini being his own worst enemy is part of why I love him so much. It's beautiful.
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What a crazy epic slugfest! It would've been nice to have some long proper macro games, of course. But it's so much cooler to watch these early game off-meta knife-edge fights rather than the same old hydra busts and ovie-hunting sairs.
That's just the way Mini rolls. He wins or loses on his own terms. His ocassional tilt-mode losses are still less painful than watching Bisu painfully dying to hydra busts.
SK has his own distinct big brain playstyle like Larva which even a Toss fan can't begrudge too much. SK is a Zerg that even non-Zerg fans can root for.
Relax people, Snow v SK will surely give us some long PvZ macro games. The real finals before the finals. I'm torn on who to root for - Snow for his long-awaited and much-deserved ASL victory, or SK for back-to-back wins.
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Mini I love you, but sometimes you out-mindgame yourself I think lol. Really feels like Games 4 and 5 never stood a chance outside a distinct BO advantage? More fun series to watch than their finals match last season, but I wish mini played standard in one of those last 2 games. Although I guess both games he would have been in a better shape if he stopped lings from running by and killing so many probes (especially game 5 deciding to fight that many lings with probes seemed incredibly foolish even to me as I was watching it).
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