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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 10:47 GMT
#21
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 2?

Yes (9)
 
60%

If you have time (5)
 
33%

No (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 09 2024 10:47 GMT
#22
Man, Mini with his attack-upgrade two-phased push. Great planning for this map and this matchup
The heart's eternal vow
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 10:48 GMT
#23
This is the Mini we expected to show up in ASL 16 finals after wiping the floor with Effort.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey719 Posts
April 09 2024 10:49 GMT
#24
Great prep from Mini as i anticipated.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 10:49 GMT
#25
On April 09 2024 19:44 durachok wrote:
What is the idea behind this 2 hatch scourge build?

I guess speed ling are supposed to clean up the pre +1 zealots or either all in bust toss' nat with muta/ling.
FBH #1!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-09 10:51:14
April 09 2024 10:50 GMT
#26
On April 09 2024 19:49 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 19:44 durachok wrote:
What is the idea behind this 2 hatch scourge build?

I guess speed ling are supposed to clean up the pre +1 zealots or either all in bust toss' nat with muta/ling.


The muta/ling part makes sense, except he never made a single muta lol (until much later in the game).

I think he was expecting fast corsair since he was scouted 2 hatch, so that was the idea of scourge. However Mini big brained him and went for +1 timing attack instead.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2559 Posts
April 09 2024 10:52 GMT
#27
Nyoken and Gypsy seemed to miss that Mini took his gas even before building the first Gateway. I suppose it's for the very early +1 Zealot move out. Dude had his build all mapped out for the series.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3735 Posts
April 09 2024 10:55 GMT
#28
It's just Mini being Mini. Years of funky builds finally coming to fruition.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-09 10:56:03
April 09 2024 10:55 GMT
#29
Is Soulkey looking _this_ hopeless because of Mini or because of the 2 maps? Because in the Ro16 Soulkey obliterated Bisu.
The heart's eternal vow
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1451 Posts
April 09 2024 10:59 GMT
#30
On April 09 2024 19:48 foxmeep wrote:
This is the Mini we expected to show up in ASL 16 finals after wiping the floor with Effort.


Oh right, this might be the reason why Soulkey got caught off guard. Mini haven't shown his hands yet for PvZ matchup.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2559 Posts
April 09 2024 11:00 GMT
#31
On April 09 2024 19:34 M2 wrote:
Looking at game 1, I realize how much the BOs impact and decide games in all match ups (perhaps not so much in TvT) nowadays. The game is so developed and perfected that a lucky (can we call it like this?) good start almost always translates into victory

Has always been the case, but fans tend to read too much into it.

Only when there is a clear difference in skill level of the two players that the better one can overcome the early BO disadvantage. Most of the times the early BO/spawn/map advantages just snowball into later victory. The losing player tends to get criticized for playing terribly or whatever, especially when we look back past seasons' scores and only see a number like 4-0 or 4-1 and don't remember how the games actually played out.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3735 Posts
April 09 2024 11:05 GMT
#32
Mini looked very upset when he scouted the zerg natural. But Soulkey's economy is so bad, this might be better for Mini.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 11:05 GMT
#33
Rvr incoming? lol
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 11:10 GMT
#34
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 3?

Yes (10)
 
77%

If you have time (3)
 
23%

No (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:10 GMT
#35
On April 09 2024 19:55 PVJ wrote:
Is Soulkey looking _this_ hopeless because of Mini or because of the 2 maps? Because in the Ro16 Soulkey obliterated Bisu.


He got BO advantage and knows how to close. Game 3 shows what happens if the BO advantage goes the other way.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3735 Posts
April 09 2024 11:11 GMT
#36
Not sure why Mini went for reaver. Isn't zerg obligated to go for spire no matter what against one base protoss?
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2559 Posts
April 09 2024 11:11 GMT
#37
Yep. Just like I said before. The score is 2-1 now and the BO score is also 2-1.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 09 2024 11:13 GMT
#38
Wait, is it over? I had to go away for 10 minutes.
The heart's eternal vow
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:13 GMT
#39
On April 09 2024 20:13 PVJ wrote:
Wait, is it over? I had to go away for 10 minutes.


Not just yet lol
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 09 2024 11:14 GMT
#40
Thank god it wasn't another sweep.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
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