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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-09 11:16:37
April 09 2024 11:15 GMT
#41
On April 09 2024 20:13 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 20:13 PVJ wrote:
Wait, is it over? I had to go away for 10 minutes.


Not just yet lol


Thanks for giving me hope. I really wanted to see live Mini moving on.

First time following a match-day live this season and it's the best one.
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 09 2024 11:18 GMT
#42
On April 09 2024 20:10 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 19:55 PVJ wrote:
Is Soulkey looking _this_ hopeless because of Mini or because of the 2 maps? Because in the Ro16 Soulkey obliterated Bisu.


He got BO advantage and knows how to close. Game 3 shows what happens if the BO advantage goes the other way.

I didn't think game 2 was a clear build-order advantage. It seemed to me it was real-time in-game tactics and brains that tricked the zerg.

You are right he knows how to close. That's what makes it so exciting to watch Mini~~!
The heart's eternal vow
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:22 GMT
#43
On April 09 2024 20:18 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 20:10 foxmeep wrote:
On April 09 2024 19:55 PVJ wrote:
Is Soulkey looking _this_ hopeless because of Mini or because of the 2 maps? Because in the Ro16 Soulkey obliterated Bisu.


He got BO advantage and knows how to close. Game 3 shows what happens if the BO advantage goes the other way.

I didn't think game 2 was a clear build-order advantage. It seemed to me it was real-time in-game tactics and brains that tricked the zerg.

You are right he knows how to close. That's what makes it so exciting to watch Mini~~!


Yeah that's true I was actually gonna comment Game 2 wasn't really a "BO" opening win but a mid-game decision win (to go +1 timing attack over corsair).
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49993 Posts
April 09 2024 11:25 GMT
#44
at least we have a series.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:26 GMT
#45
On April 09 2024 20:18 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 20:10 foxmeep wrote:
On April 09 2024 19:55 PVJ wrote:
Is Soulkey looking _this_ hopeless because of Mini or because of the 2 maps? Because in the Ro16 Soulkey obliterated Bisu.


He got BO advantage and knows how to close. Game 3 shows what happens if the BO advantage goes the other way.

I didn't think game 2 was a clear build-order advantage. It seemed to me it was real-time in-game tactics and brains that tricked the zerg.

You are right he knows how to close. That's what makes it so exciting to watch Mini~~!


What's that quote about thin line between genius and insanity? Haha.

That was almost such a sick strat by Mini but then it wasn't.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 11:29 GMT
#46
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 4?

Yes (10)
 
77%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

No (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:34 GMT
#47
On April 09 2024 20:15 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 20:13 foxmeep wrote:
On April 09 2024 20:13 PVJ wrote:
Wait, is it over? I had to go away for 10 minutes.


Not just yet lol


Thanks for giving me hope. I really wanted to see live Mini moving on.

First time following a match-day live this season and it's the best one.


I really hope Mini moves on, I want to watch Snow vs Mini so badly

Even though I am normally an any Zerg supporter.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2559 Posts
April 09 2024 11:34 GMT
#48
On April 09 2024 20:18 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 20:10 foxmeep wrote:
On April 09 2024 19:55 PVJ wrote:
Is Soulkey looking _this_ hopeless because of Mini or because of the 2 maps? Because in the Ro16 Soulkey obliterated Bisu.


He got BO advantage and knows how to close. Game 3 shows what happens if the BO advantage goes the other way.

I didn't think game 2 was a clear build-order advantage. It seemed to me it was real-time in-game tactics and brains that tricked the zerg.

You are right he knows how to close. That's what makes it so exciting to watch Mini~~!

It wasn't a clear BO advantage like game 1 and 3, but Soulkey did have to make a somewhat blind choice between Scourge and Muta. Mini was helped massively by Soulkey making the wrong choice. If Soulkey made Mutas there, he'd have been ahead.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 11:38 GMT
#49
Mini mental boom, this is NOT looking good lol
FBH #1!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3735 Posts
April 09 2024 11:40 GMT
#50
On April 09 2024 20:38 Peeano wrote:
Mini mental boom, this is NOT looking good lol


Complete meltdown. This game goes to Soulkey, there's no hope for Mini.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-09 11:44:54
April 09 2024 11:42 GMT
#51
It's a bit like pre-destined or something that it's the brains that brings down the brains that gives the advantage. These last two games were rubbish from a protoss perspective.

Why not put the zealots on the ramp? Or make a forge.
The heart's eternal vow
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:42 GMT
#52
What in the hell was that fighting with probes vs 20 lings lol
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 09 2024 11:42 GMT
#53
That was... unexpected.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1146 Posts
April 09 2024 11:42 GMT
#54
what is mini doing lmao??

Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 11:42 GMT
#55
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 5?

No (12)
 
57%

Yes (8)
 
38%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs Mini Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
Malicious User Pride
Profile Joined April 2024
3 Posts
April 09 2024 11:43 GMT
#56
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Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
April 09 2024 11:44 GMT
#57
Mini is just the worst player to cheer for. Man just gives up before his fans lol
https://cinesnipe.com
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
April 09 2024 11:44 GMT
#58
I actually don't understand taking the bait though. If he's got a Nexus coming up then he just needs to sit and defend. If SK is droning hard behind, at that point he's not going to get those zealots across the map to do any damage anyway until he has a few more
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 09 2024 11:47 GMT
#59
To answer my own question it was maps that made Soulkey look bad. The same zealot walk that made the match-up look like a hoola-dance on a beach, looked here like a march of prisoners to some siberian mine.
The heart's eternal vow
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4896 Posts
April 09 2024 11:47 GMT
#60
On April 09 2024 20:44 foxmeep wrote:
I actually don't understand taking the bait though. If he's got a Nexus coming up then he just needs to sit and defend. If SK is droning hard behind, at that point he's not going to get those zealots across the map to do any damage anyway until he has a few more

Mental boom makes you act irrational if anything.
FBH #1!
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